Trenbolone Enanthate
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Why wouldn't winny help? Almost all the gains from winny are lean tissue. Test E, Tren E will work, you can add the d-bol but you will gain some water weight/bloat, winny would be better. As far as dosages and length of cycle that depends what your cycle history, size, and goals (BF lost) are.
Will EQ take care of the side effects? I have ran 2 cycles before. Both were 30mg Dbol ED and Test Enan 500mg/week for 10 weeks. I just wanna get my bf% lowered as much as possible while maintaining the muscle. I have just heard that winny's really only helps if you are below 12% and trying to get ripped. I don't mind the bloating. I have Adex for that. Besides, it goes away.
You "heard" wrong about winny, it is a AAS. Its is not selectively anabolic or androgenistic in people below 12% body fat, that would be absurd. Assuming your diet, weight training, and cardio are in order winny, test, and tren can all aid you in loosing fat and putting on lean mass.
Here is a little read on winny and fat loss
"Microsomal Receptors (MR)
The last mechanism involves the presence of the AR in subcellular fractions. To be more specific, the AR has been identified in microsomal portions of the cell. So what does this mean? Certain androgens are able to bind to the AR in microsomes and carry out a posttranscriptional effect. In fact, it appears that out of all the available androgens, stanozolol (Winstrol) is able to bind to this receptor while all others (with the possible exception of danazol) are not.
If you couple this with the idea that the AR is present in the subcellular fractions of adipose tissue — or the microsomes to be more specific — this can account for its ability to induce fat loss."
Here is a little read on winny and fat loss
"Microsomal Receptors (MR)
The last mechanism involves the presence of the AR in subcellular fractions. To be more specific, the AR has been identified in microsomal portions of the cell. So what does this mean? Certain androgens are able to bind to the AR in microsomes and carry out a posttranscriptional effect. In fact, it appears that out of all the available androgens, stanozolol (Winstrol) is able to bind to this receptor while all others (with the possible exception of danazol) are not.
If you couple this with the idea that the AR is present in the subcellular fractions of adipose tissue — or the microsomes to be more specific — this can account for its ability to induce fat loss."
"I have a friend with about 18% who took winstol and it didnt do a damn thing. they were zambons too, which are very respected.
if you have alot of bodyfat 18%+ you really wont lose that much muslce if any. your body will take the fat because theres alot of it.
however, if you want to be on the sauce, for your size i would prefer test. they both preserve muscle while dieting(maybe and hopefully adding some). test is alot cheaper, your girl will thank you , winny can prevent you from going heavy(kills joints), and test is easier on the liver, prostate, skin, and hairline. i do however recommend winny if you ever get under 12%. it make you look hard and ripped. "
This is a quote from a friend of mine that I emailed about a cycle including Winny. I never said it wouldn't add SOME lean muscle mass, just that it wouldn't really help. Anyway, I don't know that much about it but this guy does. I know him personally and he is 5'7" 215lbs cut. I figured I would just diet and do cardio and ECA along with some Tren and stuff. Just wanted a good cycle to fit me. Needed to know if it was a good idea to run both test and tren enanthate and at what dose. Also wanted to know if there was a better stack than this for my size. Again, I am not fat, just can't see the abs.
if you have alot of bodyfat 18%+ you really wont lose that much muslce if any. your body will take the fat because theres alot of it.
however, if you want to be on the sauce, for your size i would prefer test. they both preserve muscle while dieting(maybe and hopefully adding some). test is alot cheaper, your girl will thank you , winny can prevent you from going heavy(kills joints), and test is easier on the liver, prostate, skin, and hairline. i do however recommend winny if you ever get under 12%. it make you look hard and ripped. "
This is a quote from a friend of mine that I emailed about a cycle including Winny. I never said it wouldn't add SOME lean muscle mass, just that it wouldn't really help. Anyway, I don't know that much about it but this guy does. I know him personally and he is 5'7" 215lbs cut. I figured I would just diet and do cardio and ECA along with some Tren and stuff. Just wanted a good cycle to fit me. Needed to know if it was a good idea to run both test and tren enanthate and at what dose. Also wanted to know if there was a better stack than this for my size. Again, I am not fat, just can't see the abs.
Your plan is good, diet and cardio are the most important. Test and Tren will be fine, Considering you have 250mg/20ml I would run the tren at 500mg/wk for 10 weeks and 350mg of test e for 10 weeks. With the winny I was just trying to make the point that it wouldnt be useless, what works for one person might not work as good for another, I know allot of people respond well to winny, while others just complain about their joints.
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I am going to recomend more test. Keep it 1:1 with the tren to keeps the tren sides down. If my tren is higher, I get mood swings bad, I cried watching the Adam sandler movie Mr. Deeds....you know the COMEDY. But I was ready to rip your head off if you said anything about it! Keeping my test equal or slightly higher has helped me gain some stability, lol.
Actaully, let me say this tren acetate, but I imagine tren eth would be the same, I might be wrong though.
Actaully, let me say this tren acetate, but I imagine tren eth would be the same, I might be wrong though.
I hear you, love to bulk, hate to cut. The tren will help with this though. I'd run the dbol but keep it at 4 weeks. you might as well thicken up a bit while waiting for the tren and test to kick in. just make sure you eat super clean...or you could always use some prop and/or tren acetate for the 1st 4, but you already have the dbol....
not bad, ive never tryed dianabol along side tren ace and testosterone, I just stick with my Tren ace, propionate, winstrol and IGF-1
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