PEGylated Mechano Growth Factor

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PEGylated Mechano Growth Factor is a new and innovative form of MGF that outperforms natural MGF many times over. PEGylation technology was introduced into the pharmaceutical industry more recently to virtually eliminate the problems associated with biopharmaceuticals. Biopharmaceuticals have a lot of negative issues associated with them that make their use limited in the pharmaceutical industry, such as extremely short half-lives caused by proteolytic degradation (often not exceeding 2 minutes), increased renal (kidney) excretion, and inactivation of the peptide caused by your body’s natural immune response. This problem, however, is corrected by attaching different PEG molecules to proteins and peptides. PEG stands for polyethylene glycol, a unique polymer that is non-ionic and soluble in water. By covalently bonding a PEG chain to a peptide you can expand the physical radius of the overall molecule, which creates a “shield” around the peptide and prevents proteases and antibodies from cleaving it and rendering it inactive. PEGylation also has various lengths (weights) and using a chain that is too large can block the binding of the peptide to its receptor. This, and the fact that MGF is a smaller peptide, is why we decided to use a smaller PEG chain and since d-arg MGF is insoluble in water the addition of a PEG chain is a positive feature to this peptide. This prevents the need for acidic solutions and provides a virtually painless injection.
 
i don't know too many people who actually use it.. but any feedback is always a great thing... results, what you stacked with, type of diet, type of training routine, and if you were also using any other natural supps or aas as well...
 
On this board, bigbaldbulldog is the only one I've heard of using it. I'm waiting to build up some money so I can use it. One thing I'm curious about though: "PEG stands for polyethylene glycol?" Isn't that a kind of anti-freeze?
 
saudades said:
On this board, bigbaldbulldog is the only one I've heard of using it. I'm waiting to build up some money so I can use it. One thing I'm curious about though: "PEG stands for polyethylene glycol?" Isn't that a kind of anti-freeze?

Only having to shoot 500mcgs every 5 days is great and I got the same results. Although I do have to say that IGF from MC is really the best I ever used. On a scale of 1-10 MC has to be a 10 compared to other companies. Others seem to be around 7ish you get results but nothing liek you will by using MC IGF...that being said if I had to do things over again or if I ran thinsg again I would do MC IGF because it worked a little bit better I thought.. IBE has a great line and I have enjoyed a few of them with no regrets.

I know everybody is different cause every BODY is different, Keep that in mind when using or endorsing companies... basic fundamentals are always the same but when it comes do chemistry we all react differently.
 
I have to say I liked IGF, MGF as well PegMGF... the real difference, as I reflect, is how much and how often it is taken... I got great results and it has been years since I have done either.. but what do recall clearest is DIET played a crucial and important role in what I gained and lost.. the timing of food, training and diet all had to be perfect in order to get what we all read about...
 
saudades...good call. similar name but altogether different chemical, antifreeze is ethylene glycol, or (mono)ethylene glycol not poly
 
AZ1 said:
saudades...good call. similar name but altogether different chemical, antifreeze is ethylene glycol, or (mono)ethylene glycol not poly

Ahh, gotcha. Looked it up, too. This stuff is apparently in a lot of the food we eat right out of the grocery store.
 
Info on this stuff is hard to find but post I have read from guys who have used it appear to be solid and credible... I am going to find soeminfo and get this thread cranking... Stay tuned for some info.
 
PEGylated Mechano Growth Factor is a new and innovative form of MGF that outperforms natural MGF many times over. PEGylation technology was introduced into the pharmaceutical industry more recently to virtually eliminate the problems associated with biopharmaceuticals. Biopharmaceuticals have a lot of negative issues associated with them that make their use limited in the pharmaceutical industry, such as extremely short half-lives caused by proteolytic degradation (often not exceeding 2 minutes), increased renal (kidney) excretion, and inactivation of the peptide caused by your body’s natural immune response. This problem, however, is corrected by attaching different PEG molecules to proteins and peptides. PEG stands for polyethylene glycol, a unique polymer that is non-ionic and soluble in water. By covalently bonding a PEG chain to a peptide you can expand the physical radius of the overall molecule, which creates a “shield” around the peptide and prevents proteases and antibodies from cleaving it and rendering it inactive. PEGylation also has various lengths (weights) and using a chain that is too large can block the binding of the peptide to its receptor. This, and the fact that MGF is a smaller peptide, is why we decided to use a smaller PEG chain and since d-arg MGF is insoluble in water the addition of a PEG chain is a positive feature to this peptide. This prevents the need for acidic solutions and provides a virtually painless injection.

Our PEG MGF is also unique in the sense that we did not go with a PEG molecule attached to a normal human MGF peptide. Instead, we decided to use a more stable form of the peptide, a variant with 2 d-arg substitutions at positions 14 and 15, where there was once the natural l-arg. These additions create a more stable peptide in itself, since basic l--arg-l-arg bonds are easily cleaved by proteases in the blood. By creating a d-arg-d-arg bond, instead, we eliminate this problem and extend the half life well beyond basic hMGF. Our PEG MGF also contains another unique addition to its structure. By looking at the difference between hMGF and our PEG MGF, one of the first things you will notice is the addition of an NH2 group at the C-terminal (right) side of the peptide. This amine addition is often used by pharmaceutical companies to, once again, increase the half life of the peptide by making it less susceptible to carboxypeptidases in plasma, which are enzymes that remove amine (NH2) groups from the end of peptides and render them inactive. Since all peptides have a Carboxyl (COOH) and amine (NH2) groupattached to the ends of them, the addition of another amine group to the end of the carboxyl side of the peptide greatly decreases the chances of the functional amine group getting cleaved by enzymes. In most cases this addition has no effect on the peptide’s interaction with its receptor.

Commentary highlighted in green is to further explain the statements from the article and key points from the article are highlighted in red.......

The FASEB Journal express article 10.1096/fj.05-3786fje. Published online September 6, 2005

A strong neuroprotective effect of the autonomous Cterminal peptide of IGF-1 Ec (MGF) in brain ischemia
Joanna Dłużniewska,* Anna Sarnowska,† Małgorzata Beręsewicz,* Ian Johnson,‡Surjit K. S. Srai,§ Bala Ramesh,§ Geoffrey Goldspink,|| Dariusz C. Górecki,¶ and Barbara Zabłocka*

Peptide synthesis

The 24 amino acid peptide amide (NH2-YQPPSTNKNTKSQ(d)R(d)RKGSTFEEHK-NH2 corresponding to the shorter consensus mammalian sequence for the C-terminal MGF peptide was synthesized using the Fmoc protection strategy. The D-form of arginine was used for the synthesis instead of the naturally occurring L-form. The N terminus was modified by a PEG derivative (O’O-bis(2-aminopropyl)polyethylene glycol 1900) (Jeffamine) via a succinic acid bridge.................

Comments: Goldspink is the scientist that actually discovered MGF and for purposes specific to this study he uses MGF but instead of the human sequence which contains 3 arginines, they use the shorter consensus mamalian sequence containing 2 arginines. They removed thearginine at the 23rd position. Human form MGF has a third arginine at the 23rd position. They are also using the D-form of arginine to keep them from cleaving and makes it more stable.

Based on these analyses and taking into account the high degree of homology, we have generated a consensus sequence for the mammalian 24aa C-terminal peptides of the IGF-1 splice variant IGF-1Eb/Ec or MGF (Fig. 1B). This consensus sequence was used to prepare a synthetic, 24 amino acid long MGF C-terminal peptide. Based on the human sequence, this peptide contained two rather than three arginines (Fig. 1B). To increase the stability of the MGF peptide, which was found to be rapidly degraded in the serum or tissue fluids (Yang and Goldspink, unpublished), the D-form of arginine was used for synthesis instead of the naturally occurring Lform. Moreover, the N terminus of the peptide was PEGylated...................

Comments: As you can see proof here that plain MGF is not stable and must be PEGylated to stabilize.....from the mouth of Goldspink himself.

Such a small and biologically active molecule is a good candidate for development into a therapeutic modality. Indeed, we have shown here that C-terminal MGF peptide can be modified into a more stable and potentially targetable moiety by specific chemical modifications. In contrast, the recombinant full-length IGF-1, although neuroprotective in vitro, was found ineffective when delivered by intracarotid injection. It remains to be elucidated whether this disparity was due to different biological activities or resulted from the increased stability of the modified C-terminal MGF molecule. The difference in permeability through the blood-brain (BBB) barrier could also be a factor, but it has to be stressed that the PEGylated C-terminal MGF and recombinant IGF-1 have similar molecular size.

We demonstrate here the efficacy of the modified C-terminal MGF peptide administered as a single bolus injection intra-arterially. This suggests that the stabilized, pegylated peptide molecule was able to cross the BBB and penetrate into the neurones…………………..

Comments: As you can see clearly in red that PEGylation made the MGF peptide more stable and more targetable for development of a therapeutic modality for the pharmaceutical world.

*Molecular Biology Unit and †Department of NeuroRepair, Medical Research Centre, Polish Academy of Sciences, Warsaw, Poland; ‡Department of Anatomy, §Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, and ||Molecular Tissue Repair Unit, Department of Surgery, Royal Free and University College Medical School, London, England; ¶Institute of Biomedical and Biomolecular Sciences, School of Pharmacy and Biomedical Sciences, University of Portsmouth, England Geoffrey Goldspink, Dariusz C. Górecki, and Barbara Zabłocka are senior coauthors.
 
MGF is a splice variant of the IGF gene which increases stem cell count in the muscle and allows for muscle fibers to fuse and mature. This is a process required for growth of adult muscle. Natural MGF is made locally and does not travel into the bloodstream. Synthetic MGF is water based and when administered intramuscularly, travels into the bloodstream. MGF is only stable in the blood stream for only a few minutes.

PEGylation is the act of attaching a Polyethylene glycol (PEG) structure to another larger molecule (in this case, MGF). The PEG acts as a protective coating and the theory here is that this will allow the MGF to be carried through the blood stream without being broken down.

Background

I have to be honest here, and say that in my estimation, PEGylating MGF is basically something a research chemical company did to have a bit of a market with no competition for awhile. That’s not to say that it’s not a decent product, but honestly, in this particular case, I feel that marketing was in the drivers seat with the development of this version of MGF, and science was in the backseat asking “are we there yet?”.

Action

MGF is produced biologically when muscle fibers are broken down through resistance (weight training). It is a potent factor in muscle growth. MGF stimulates muscle growth, creates new muscle fibers, promotes nitrogen retention and increases protein synthesis. This compound is commonly used for overall growth of muscle and to promote growth in body parts that are not up to par with the rest of the user's physique. Results usually depend on dosage. Fat loss and strength increases are not typically seen with MGF's use (as they are in IGF-1 use).

The PEG itself is safe for use as it is approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and does not react in the body. The PEG is not broken down in the body and excreted (intact) through urine or feces. Any risk associated PEGylated drugs is due to drug itself not the PEG per se.

Technical Data

In a study on older rodents, muscle fiber reduction in their older muscles was found to be attributed to decreased activity of satellite cells (1). After a certain size was reached, growth ceased. In the presence of MGF, satellite cells became activated and hypertrophy in mature muscles continued.

In experiments where MGF was administered intramuscularly, there was a 20% increase in the weight of the injected muscle fibers within 2 weeks (2). In further studies, it took 4 months for IGF to cause a 25% increase in muscle mass (3). MGF was found to be more potent than IGF-1Ea in rapid muscle growth (4).

[Note: This data is on “regular” MGF, not the Pegylated version….we can assume similar results, however]

User Notes

Although the science looks impressive on paper, in the real world, we see something totally different. While PEGMGF should have theoretically given the athletes who use it better results than regular MGF, it struggles to provide even the same results at a higher dosage (judging from the athletes I have personally spoken to).

So does that mean it’s useless?


No, not at all. Not entirely…

I think that the PEGylation is actually a potentially useful addition to MGF if properly used. If we assume that the PEGylation will extend the life of the MGF in the body somewhat, then we can use it in a very specific manner to help our gains. It is nowhere near as good as regular MGF though, and I wouldn’t use it unless I really had the disposable cash on hand.

I feel that, based on conversations with several athletes and bodybuilders, that PEGMGF is best used in conjunction with (not instead of) regular MGF (and IGF). I feel that if one were to use my Peptides protocol (to read about that in detail, check out the article “Peptides: The Next Frontier in Hypertrophy”), I think that PEGMGF is probably best used on off-days from training, to keep MGF levels elevated and get additional hypertrophy from the longer releasing PEGMGF.

So, along with regular MGF and Lr3IGF-1, if I felt it to be necessary, I might throw in some PEGMGF on off-days from training, to get additional growth (and again, if it were me, I’d probably recommend 400-500mcg of PEGMGF on off days, with a regular dose of 200mcg of regular MGF + 100mgs of Lr3IGF-1 on training days, as per my article).

For most athletes I’ve spoken to and worked with, this is what we’ve found to be optimal. Again, though…I’m not very fond of this product, and it’s best used (if at all), as a possible adjunct to an IGF + MGF cycle, and never in place of regular MGF. Unfortunately, it just didn’t pan out as people hoped it would, but it’s not a complete waste of money.

References

Chakravarthy et al. 2000
Goldspink, 2001
Musaro et al. 2001
Musaro et al. 2001
 
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I have to admit, I was one of the last to jump on the Peptides bandwagon. I just wasn’t impressed by the results people had been talking about over the last few years. Sure, the guys in the IFBB have been getting bigger and bigger as the years have been going by, as have NPC competitors, but I still wasn’t convinced that it was from the hGH (human Growth Hormone, also called "GH"), the insulin, or the IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor). Besides, guys were getting pretty huge before that stuff was readily available, so I wasn’t ready to buy into Growth Factors and Peptides just yet.

I was in my late teens when hGH just started getting really popular, and just started becoming the "must have" drug for contest prep…In fact, even a decade later, most bodybuilders still consider hGH almost a necessity for contest prep, and many use the full spectrum of Growth Factors (Insulin, IGF-1, hGH) virtually year round. But still, from talking to regular bodybuilders, I wasn’t impressed. Most people who I spoke to (who weren’t professional bodybuilders or top amateurs) said that growth factors simply didn’t give them the same results as steroids did. Personally, I didn’t see the rationale behind paying a couple of hundred dollars for something which wouldn’t even produce the same results as a couple dollars worth of testosterone. Well…

I think that’s because a lot of people simply use Growth Factors incorrectly…because properly used, I think that they are highly potent and impressive drugs for both athletics as well as bodybuilding.

In other words, I was wrong. Sort of. See, I think that the reason we’re seeing mixed results from people using Peptides is their doses and dosing protocols. So what I’m going to do here is basically give you an overview of the various peptides on the market, and let you in on the optimal time, dose, and combination I think will allow them to produce the best possible results. Basically, what I’m going to do is tell you about all of the new peptides on the market, and how they are used for maximum results.

Now, to understand how to properly use them, first a brief explanation of how they function naturally may be in order. Natural GH levels are controlled by several stimuli including both neurotransmitters as well as hormones. Increasing your body’s natural GH level is first initiated in the hypothalamus. There, in the hypothalamus, two peptide hormones act to either increase or decrease GH output from the pituitary gland; these hormones are known respectively as somatostatin (SS) and growth hormone-releasing hormone (GHRH) - and they have opposing effects. Somatostatin acts at the pituitary to decrease hGH output while GHRH acts at the pituitary to increase hGH output. Together these hormones are secreted in pulses to regulate your body’s hGH levels. In this way, your body can either cause the secretion or inhibition of hGH from the pituitary, as necessary.

When there isn’t enough hGH in your body, GHRH acts to initiate the emission of hGH, and when there is too much hGH in the body, somatostatin does the opposite. The latter effect occurs because hGH is subject to a negative feedback loop. When GHRH is released, it causes a hormonal cascade starting with the subsequent secretion of hGH. Once that hGH is released, exerts various metabolic effects…and it triggers the release of IGF-1, which is now known to exert many of the effects previously attributed solely to hGH. (1) IGF-1 is highly anabolic although a large body of contradictory literature exists on the topic of whether hGH is anabolic per se. Regardless, though I personally feel that enough evidence exists to show that Lr3IGF-1 is more potent for building muscle than hGH is (Note: Lr3IGF-1 is 2-3x more potent than regular IGF-1).

Now, with regards to GH as well as IGF-1, after they’re produced and secreted, they then have the ability to circulate back to the hypothalamus as well as the pituitary to initiate somatostatin release. As previously stated, the secretion of somatostatin will complete the negative feedback loop, and decrease hGH release. Although both hGH as well as IGF-1 can do this, and have many other overlapping effects, they seem to be able to produce many divergent effects as well, and individually they would seem to act in both an autocrine and paracrine fashion (meaning they can apparently affect various cells and their neighboring cells without it having to enter the actual cell). This is likely how IGF-1 causes a decrease in body fat, though there are no IGF-1 receptors in fat cells. hGH, on the other hand reduces fat through the hGH receptors found in fat cells. (1) IGF-1, however, is thought to be the primary autocrine/paracrine catalyst in myofiber (muscle) growth, also called "myogenesis" (generation of new muscle tissue).

To understand autocrine/paracrine signaling involved in muscle (myofiber) regeneration and growth, we can point to the various hypertrophic (growth promoting) effects which appear to be totally modulated by IGF-1. When muscle is broken down by training, the destruction of muscle tissue leaves behind something known as "satellite cells". Those satellite cells are small stem cells located within the muscle which are then mobilized by IGF-1 to begin the muscle growth and regeneration process. During this process of regenerating muscle, myoblasts are formed to replace and hypercompensate for damaged/destroyed ones, and then they can either fuse with each other to form totally new myofibers or become incorporated into previously damaged (surviving) myofibers. Ultimately, if more myofibers are created than were destroyed (by training) new muscle growth is experienced.

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IGF-I and "myogenesis" during compensatory hypertrophy. Increased loading leads to satellite cell proliferation, differentiation, and fusion. IGF-I has been shown to stimulate these myogeninc processes in skeletal muscles. It is postulated that IGF-I, and/or the loading-sensitive IGF-I isoform Mechano growth factor (MGF), is produced and released by myofibers in response to increased loading or stretch. The increased local concentration of IGF-I (MGF) would then stimulate the myogenic processes needed to drive the hypertrophy response. (Adams J Appl Physiol 93: 1159-1167, 2002; doi:10.1152/japplphysiol.01264.2001
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Though IGF-1’s effects on the creation of new muscle tissue are clear and direct, it would appear that hGH probably exerts the majority of its anabolic effects on muscular tissues through its ability to stimulate the secretion of IGF. Although it’s also speculated that there could also be an additional (and direct) effect exerted by hGH on muscle as well, though this has been difficult to prove for scientists.

As we already know, the production of IGF-1 probably occurs when hGH is first released from the pituitary (or injected), then travels to the liver and other muscle tissue where it influences the synthesis and subsequent release of IGF-1. We know that the newly secreted IGF-1 then travels in the blood to the target tissues after being released from the cells that produced it (in the liver, in this case, but also in muscle tissue when you train).

Although all of this seems promising, and I previously had read about the GH/IGF axis, I just hadn’t been a fan of either hGH or IGF-1, because of their relatively high cost, compared to other anabolic compounds. I had also been hearing less than amazing results being reported from some people using IGF (remember, in my estimation, I now think that those people were using it poorly, as regards timing and dosing). I’ve actually been interviewing dozens of bodybuilders and athletes, and trying to figure out what kind of doses and dosing protocol the most successful use of IGF has been. Now that I’ve figured out exactly how to use IGF and other peptides for optimal results, I think that they are really quite remarkable. Just hang on, because I’m getting around to telling you how to use them…But first, I need to go over a bit more about IGF, and how it isn’t only produced in the liver.

This is possibly the most important part about production of IGF-1…all of the production/secretion of it isn’t actually done in the liver. And this last fact brings up an interesting (and very relevant) point about IGF…and that is the idea that it can be locally produced in alternate splices in muscle tissue as a response to training (2). While liver produced IGF-1 has several important systemic (total body) effects, when it is produced locally (in muscle) it has several different physiological functions (but mainly we’re concerned with muscle growth and development, and fat loss).

Lets take a look at what happens when you resistance train, and look at how your body responds hormonally. As you can see from the following chart, both eccentric as well as concentric movements will raise IGF-1 levels, as well as IGF-1 receptor concentration levels, while also lowering levels of some IGF binding proteins like IGFBP-4 (which serves to temporarily deactivate IGF-1, possibly inhibiting its actions..

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(Chart from: Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 280: E383-E390, 2001; 0193-1849/01)

Also of note is that skeletal muscle IGF-I mRNA and protein expression both increase during mechanical loading (2), thus indicating that the locally produced IGF-1 is not exactly the same as liver produced IGF…nor is the liver the only source of IGF-I. This is very important to us here. In fact, a review of this evidence makes it highly unlikely that increases in liver produced IGF-I are necessary for hypertrophy and instead, we find a much higher correlation in new muscle mass with locally produced IGF. (3)

This locally produced IGF is extremely likely to cause myogenesis during skeletal muscle hypertrophy by contributing to at least by three important molecular processes:

1. increased satellite cell activity

2. gene transcription

3. protein translation


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Each of these processes contributes in a different manner to local and general muscle growth. It is highly likely that IGF-I, through each of these three processes, directly and significantly contributes to hypertrophy. So we can see that once IGF-1 is produced in the muscle, by mechanical stimulation (resistance training) the gene is actually slightly different than liver produced IGF-1…this indicates that the IGF-1 gene can actually be "spliced" into different forms, to produce divergent effects on the hypertrophy response. (4)

So we know that there are different forms of IGF-1, caused by gene splicing, which have now been identified to follow resistance training. Basically, this means that different isoforms (forms) of the IGF-I gene have been shown to be expressed by muscles when subjected to mechanical stimulation. In other words, when you lift weights, varying "versions" of the same basic IGF-1 gene are created out of the IGF-1 which is secreted. This brings us to the dominant isoform of IGF-1 which is expressed primarily during mechanical overload: Mechano Growth Factor, or MGF. (3)

However, before going on, it is important to keep in mind that these isoforms of the human IGF-1 gene (some of which are IGF-1Ea, b, and c) are all very similar to each other and all have the ability to produce slightly different (though important) effects which aid muscle growth.

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However, when examining all of these different isoforms, it would seem that the primary growth factor responsible for the hypertrophy process is insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I) and MGF, or Mechano Growth Factor (IGF-1Ec). (7)

Actually, though, even though MGF seems to be the most important isoforms of IGF-1, there are two isoforms which appear very relevant to hypertrophy are: IGF-1Ea (sometimes termed "muscle IGF-1") which is actually similar to the IGF-I produced by the liver, and as already mentioned, IGF-IEc (termed mechano-growth factor and known to bodybuilders and athletes simply as "MGF"). (3) The latter of those two only appears to be produced by damaged, stretched, or loaded muscle tissue (5-7), as a repair/rebuilding mechanism. Although, the actual mechanistic roles of these different isoforms of IGF-1 as regards muscular hypertrophy are still regarded as quite complex and not well understood, IGF-1 (and specifically these isoforms of IGF-1) could actually be the most important contributor to skeletal muscle hypertrophy.

Before I go on to my personal preferences on how to use IGF-1 and MGF, I think I should clearly state that I feel that the combination of those two (or even either one alone) is far superior to the use of hGH, for most purposes. In fact, lately I’ve been getting quite a bit of heat over my recommendations to use a combination of Lr3IGF-1 and MGF in lieu of hGH, and I think that at this point, it’s not too difficult to understand why I consider IGF-1 and MFG to be a very potent combination for muscular growth- far superior to hGH. IGF-1’s superiority to hGh is intuitive at some level, but has also been clearly elucidated clinically as well. In the following graphs taken from a rodent study comparing IGF-1 and hGH, a low dose as well as a high dose of IGF-1 was shown to be more anabolic than hGH. In comparison to hGH, IGF-1 produced an overall greater total protein content within the injected muscle as well as a greater final weight of the that muscle (called the "Tibialis Anterior" or TA) (9):

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So, in comparison (in this study), it seems to be the case that IGF-1 would be superior to hGH as an anabolic agent. In some clinical studies, that is not always the case, but in bodybuilders and athletes I’ve spoken to, greater results are often seen with IGF-1 over hGH - and it should be noted that they are often seen more quickly as well. And while an intact insulin and IGF-1 Receptor signaling system is necessary for hGH to produce an anabolic effect (10), an hGH receptor deficiency is not sufficient to stop IGF-1 from being anabolic. (11) This is another reason to believe that when you are using hGH, you’re really just hoping that it produces IGF-1, for an anabolic effect.

There’s also another important reason I favor the use of IGF-1/MGF instead of hGH. Over the past few decades, hGH has developed quite a reputation for taking awhile (often several weeks) for the user to start seeing results. In contrast, IGF-1 often begins to product noticeable results within the first couple of weeks. When talking to people who have used both, I’m finding that the current trend is leaning towards IGF-1 use. At this point I should note that the IGF-1 use that’s most popular (and the kind I would recommend) is always the Lr3IGF-1 version.

Although it’s a fairly new peptide, recent studies drawing the comparison between IGF-1 and MGF have concluded that MGF is even quicker to produce results. (4) Actually, it’s been found in rodent studies to produce both faster and better results with regards to muscle growth, compared to IGF-1. (4)

Now that I think I’ve stated my case for IGF and MGF being used instead of hGH, I’ll tell you how I personally have used them successfully- and where my dosing protocol comes from. I’ve been noticing that the bodybuilders who are getting the best results from both Lr3IGF-1 as well as MGF are using it after workouts. So first of all, my recommendation is to inject them after working out. You’ll be getting better results by using them by injecting at this time because after mechanical loading (weight training with CONcentric and ECCentric loads), your levels of specific IGF-binding proteins (like IGFBP-4 are lower) (12). IGFBP-4 is a protein which binds to IGF-1 and inhibits its anabolic effects. As you can see from the picture below, levels of IGFBP-4 are lower following both concentric as well as eccentric movements, than pre-workout:

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Thus, it makes sense that you’ll get better results by injecting when levels of IGFBP-4 are lower than usual. In addition, at this time (right after a workout), IGF-1 levels are high (particularly MGF), and I feel that an additional spike in those levels would aid in the body’s ability to induce myogenesis and therefore hypertrophy. If I’m going to spend the money on IGF-1 and MGF, I’d rather inject them when binding protein levels are lowest, and they can have their maximum effect- and that means injecting them after a workout which contains a stretch component, as well as eccentric and concentric loads.

This is why I recommend shooting MGF immediately post workout, when natural levels of it are already elevated. The addition of extra MGF should push more satellite cells towards the formation of new muscle tissue, and I firmly believe that maximal benefits from this compound won’t be experienced if it’s not used after the muscle has been broken down and overloaded with training. After all, MGF is a repair factor, and I think it’s only logical to conclude that it should be used when muscle repair is going to (hopefully) be taking place anyway.

Next, I recommend using Lr3IGF-1 about an hour later…because at this point, although MGF is still highly elevated, we can still derive a benefit from adding in some IGF-1, which will then be spliced appropriately into the isoforms which are most needed by the body. When we look at both young and old subjects who are resistance trained, we see that the highest MGF levels correspond with the lowest IGF- 1Ea levels (5):

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This is why I think that by introducing an excess of MGF into the body, followed by IGF-1 which will then be spliced appropriately, will produce the additional activation of satellite cells, protein translation, and gene transcription will force the body to produce much more new tissue than if MGF or IGF are used at any other point during the day, or in a different sequence.

So how much is being used? Well, in talking with bodybuilders and other athletes, I’m finding that the magic starts with these drugs at about 80-100mcgs, which is injected into the primary muscle trained in the preceding workout- half going into that muscle on one side of the body, the other half going into the mirror image of that muscle on the other side. At this point, adequate protein and carbs need to be ingested, because IGF-1 is only going to be effective when there is adequate protein in the body to build new tissue from.(13)

So those are my full recommendations, and reasons behind them. IGF-1 (especially Lr3IGF-1) and MGF are going to be more effective than hGH, for muscle growth, and if you use them in the way I’ve outlined, you’re going to take advantage of your lowest levels of inhibitory binding proteins (thus allowing the peptides to exert maximal effects), while giving your body the best possible environment to create new muscle tissue from your workouts.

So as I said in the beginning of this article, I wasn’t the first to jump on the peptide bandwagon- but now that I figured out how to use them, they’re becoming an increasingly large (and successful) part of my anabolic intake. If you’re interested in trying them for the first time, or have used them in the past with less than great results…give my protocol a try. You won’t be disappointed.

References:

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While researching al this information I came across many boards with personal information of use and results.
Most user found that using 250mcgs a week was perfect.
Apllied on day off..
Rotating Peg-MGF 4 weeks then IGF next 4 weeks so on and so forth.

Many believe it made any AAS being used work better...
Many agreed that it coudl be used all alone but results were amplified when combined with soem type of anabolic item(s)..

The longer your protocal ran (3-4months) results were amazing and exceeded expectations of most.

Once you find what protocal works best for your body you should see constant and amazing progress...
 
I believe legal in the same way as IGF. Also, I have heard from a number of vets that 750 mcg per week is minimum and 1 mg+ is where the gains really begin, and have heard of people going up to 2mgs per week. Most of the first hand accounts I read had average results, but the doses were in the 400-500 mcg per week. I used at 750 mcg for 2.5 weeks (had 2 mg vial) and noticed some hardness, pumps, and increased appetite, but nothing groundbreaking. I would be interested in trying this at the 1-1.25 mg per week range for 4-5 weeks before I would give it a true review, but the current pricing makes this a little cost prohibitive, especially in comparison to IGF, but I have heard that it may be a better muscle builder than IGF at the higher dosages.
 
it's been a while... but bump for more info... any updates from anyone on this board with personal experiences?
 
I am just getting ready to finish up 9 weeks of PEG MGF. I used a few different doses, but basically in the 1.25-1.5 mgs per week, and a couple different dosage schedules, Mon- Fri, and Mon- Wed- Fri. When I do it again I will go 500 mcg Mon, Wed, and Fri, as this seemed the most effective. As far as results go, I had excellent recomp, lost fat, hardened up, vascularity up, excellent as far as that went. Nice pumps in the gym, no hypo feeling. Dropped weight, strength wise did ok, basically maintenance. I really liked the peptide, and thought it worked well as far as short term recomp gains.
 
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