My blood pressure is jacked!!

Crazymank

MuscleChemistry Registered Member
I finally took drew and IP's advice and got my blood pressure checked. First off, im in the middle of no-where, working in another state. So going to the doctor right now is a pain in the ass. So my immediate option is just to go to walmart and use there free blood pressure test machine.

I have no idea how they expect anyone over 12 to get there arms in those things, but i managed to get the bottom of my bi (just above my elbow) in there.

Now i was expecting a pretty good reading, because i've been feeling a lot better latley. I know that before my blood pressure was way highter and i felt like I had to crawl out of the gym after. anyway, today it read 150/83. God, i wonder where it was a couple weeks ago.

anyway, im looking for advice. Is this a normal range for when on cycle? Im taking test, eq, and proviron. Should i even try cardio right now? i recently stopped cause when my blood pressure was higher, i felt like shit-during, and after.

Big question is: does this cause long term damage?
 
just read b2c's blood pressure thread. lots of good stuff there. If anyone as more to contribute, please let me know.
 
Lowering your blood pressure, "naturally" while on cycle...By Body2see
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Of all the under-discussed topics among atheletes taking AAS, high blood pressure, also known as "HYPERTENSION", is one of the most underrated problems that exists in conjunction with use. As of 2005, almost 1 in 3 adults experiences high blood pressure alone, this without throwing the use of anabolic steroids into the mix... High blood pressure is responsible for strokes, or TIA's (mini-strokes) in average healthy individuals.

Type "A" personalities...(that's us--bodybuilders) are impatient, competitive, driven, aggressive, and more often angrier NATURALLY, let alone on cycle. As a result, this personality type is more prone to hypertension and Heart Disease.

How do I know if I have high blood pressure on cycle??
Most likely your pressure is higher than normal. Most steroids, especially orals are responsible for inducing high blood pressure in individuals. If you are hypersensitive to high BP or have a family history of high BP, then you are already at risk for developing high BP on cycle. Certain steroids pose greater risk for high blood pressure, specifically orals such as dbol, winstrol, anadrol. While injectables such as test are safer, they too can pose risk for high BP.

How do I read my blood pressure, and what do the numbers mean??
The norm for blood pressure is 120/80. The "120" refers to "SYSTOLIC" pressure. This is the actual pressure of your heart beating.

The "80" refers to "DIASTOLIC" pressure. This is the pressure of your heart and valves filling with blood.

Generally any reading of +10 or -10 is accepted as the norm. So this means that if you are testing 110/70 through 130/90...you are considered in the norm, though any spectrum at the 130/90 would put you at risk for "pre-hypertension"...which simply means that your system is regularly pumping out too much pressure. Remember the old saying, "Pressure busts pipes"...this holds true for your body as well....too much pressure for too long a period will only result in damage to your heart, valves and vessels.


How do I reduce my Blood Pressure, I'm on cycle with High Blood Pressure??

Reduce your water weight, reduce your fat weight, especially around the middle (abdomen fat)...you can do this by eating cleaner calories, or dropping water weight with anti-estrogens.

Stress- Eliminate or MANAGE as much stress as you can while on cycle. Stress in the body induces the release of stress hormones into the body...As it is, you are more susceptible to stress, due to lowered patience, and increased aggressiveness that is common while on cycle. Deep breathing techniques, yoga, and meditation are all proven ways to effectively manage stress, there is no reason that these will not work for you as well, when on cycle.

Cardio training- While on gear, you are likely to be able to keep more muscle mass without risking catabolizing natural muscle, when not on gear. Your body is in a positive state of nitrogen, not to mention that more than likely you have higher counts of red blood cells in your system, which are going to allow you to produce more effective and efficient cardiovascular workouts. Throw in some cardiovascular training, a healthy heart produces and helps regulate healthy blood pressure levels.

Reduce or eliminate sodium intake. This is a must for any bodybuilder. If you are on cycle, you already are at risk for EDEMA, or water retention sparked by the kidneys. The last thing you need is additional sodium. It is optimal to cut salt out completely, and replace any minimal consumption with sea salt.
<>TO DO THIS< CUT OUT THE FOLLOWING FOODS< ON AND OFF CYCLE<>
bouillon, cheese, crackers, cured or processed meats: (bacon, bologna, corned beef, ham, hot dogs, salami,) Ethnic foods: (Chinese, Italian, Japanese, Mexican,) frozen TV dinners, goldfish, pickles, popcorn, potato chips, pretzels, salad dressings, salted nuts, & soy sauce.


Alcohol, tobacco, cigarettes, recreational drugs should be avoided at all costs while on cycle. Not only are you taxing your liver, you are effecting your Blood Pressure significantly if you are using these products while on cycle. If you must use any one of these products, do so in MODERATION.

Natural Supplements to reduce blood pressure
-Dandelion Leaf- ( a natural diuretic )-lycopene (found in tomatoes, helps lower cholesterol levels)
-INCREASE POTASSIUM (either with potassium pills, or bananas, and other fruits.
-Olive Leaf Extract (lowers blood pressure)
-Hawthorne Extract (keeps blood vessels elastic and flexible)


Add in garlic and celery naturally, or in supplement form.

Add in OMEGA-3 fatty acids, OLIVE OIL, or CANOLA OIL...

Other Possibilities: N02 products...arginine is claimed to have natural ability in allowing more blood flow through the capillaries, valves, veins, etc..this also would in theory assist in lowering blood pressure.

There are several natural compilations of these HERBAL AND NATURAL ingredients as well as several others OTC in nutrition stores. TWINLAB actually carries a product labeled for lowering blood pressure naturally, this would be a favorable format to lower blood pressure while on cycle.

Prescription Medications:
This is a least favorable form of combating high blood pressure while on cycle. Though these medications are designed and work excellent in reducing hypertension, they should be considered at last resort, or only in those individuals with extremely high blood pressure on cycle. This is because such medications drastically reduce blood pressure in 30-45 mins. The steep increase in blood pressure on injection/consumption days, in comparison with the steep decreases in blood pressure when medication is taken is a dangerous game of "see-saw" that one should not play, unless advised to do so by a medical professional. One such successful medication, INDERAL, is a beta-blocker which has shown to be safe and effective in individuals with mild-to-high blood pressure. Certain medications in comparison to herbal controlling of blood pressure can cause dizziness, diarrhea, constipation, impotence (temporary), headache, dangerous drops in blood pressure. Such medications should never be started OR stopped without the use of a medical professional.


Symptoms of high blood pressure:
Headache, constipation, numbness/tingling in extremities, shortness of breath, sweating, palpiations,etc....


Long term problems associated with High blood pressure:
Strokes, burst vessels, impotence (permanent), numbness and tingling in extremities, migraine disorders, heart disease, heart attack.

CONCLUSION...
Since on cycle, the typical athlete is at higher risk for high blood pressure, it is important that he/she take all required steps in order to maintain healthy levels while using AAS. It should be attempted to maintain the high end of the spectrum 130/90 if possible on gear. If your blood pressure is uncontrollable, than you are putting yourself at risk for the aforementioned problems..it is not worth it. Reductions in your dosages, or adjustments of the actual gear, "may" be necessary. Remember, each person responds differently to each product, no two reactions will be the same. Now that you know this, keep an eye on your BP AND cholesterol levels, these are highly important factors that are often disregarded. Train SAFELY and Train SMART. Remember here at MC...you must train the MIND to train the body. Taking care of your health is the first step.
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-Body2See-
 
normalsucks said:
I finally took drew and IP's advice and got my blood pressure checked. First off, im in the middle of no-where, working in another state. So going to the doctor right now is a pain in the ass. So my immediate option is just to go to walmart and use there free blood pressure test machine.

I have no idea how they expect anyone over 12 to get there arms in those things, but i managed to get the bottom of my bi (just above my elbow) in there.

That's exactly it, they don't. You will not get the right reading using the machine. You need a nurse to do it with a large arm cuff. That is the only way you will get the right reading. My doctor's machine kept reading me as 170/98 until I told them to check me the normal way--134/90, although still a tad high, that's far better.
 
hey bro go to the nearest walgreens there should be a nurse ther who can take it and even wright a script if need be cost about 45.00 plus meds if u need them. just a little somthn they started doing.
 
I had some bp issues when I took eq in the past. My whole body was bright pink. I checked my bp in a wal mart machine and got 170/95 or something and went into a panic attack. I got to the hospital and had it checked and it was like 135. Like Saud said those machines are worthless especially if you have big arms. Get it checked manually and if are still reading pretty high take the meds. You don't want to do long term damage.
 
Im going to walgreen and looking into blood donation bro's!

Something is really f-ed up, Im seriously fatigued.... I totally stopped doing cardio cause i cant handle doing cardio and lifting anymore. I went hiking and seriously thought i was going to die. So i need to do something, no more playing around.
 
what about caffeine? Im worthless in the morning without it... but i seriously can feel my heart racing after my normal pot of coffee....

Sounds like a stupid question, but should i give this up??? Id rather give up coffee than my EQ....
 
normalsucks said:
Im going to walgreen and looking into blood donation bro's!

Something is really f-ed up, Im seriously fatigued.... I totally stopped doing cardio cause i cant handle doing cardio and lifting anymore. I went hiking and seriously thought i was going to die. So i need to do something, no more playing around.

Man if you cant lift anymore, you might want to end this cycle short. It's good to be tough and everything but if your hurting and miserablr, I think you should start PCT and maybe even think about seeing a doctor. You should take a week off all exercise. I'm no expert, but this doesn't sound good.
 
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