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    Default myostatin pro peptide(HMP) and follistatin...



    What would dosing protocols be adequate for these two compounds? I got some good prices on these and wouldn't mind trying one or both. Anyone know how to dose these?
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    I am a masters of science student at well known university in Chicago. I am very interested in the confidential results of those who silence Myostatin for muscle growth. It sounds like you might be interested too. I would love to communicate with you if you should determine to go forward with your plan. I will not give medical, legal, scientific, or moral advice, but I can suggest reading material for your review and hypothetical postulations.

    For example, the way in which you choose to silence myostatin will make a difference in the dose. There are two ways one could currently silence ystatin in vivo: (1) via RNA-interference of myostatin; (2) by the introduction of anti-myostatin antibodies.

    Acceleron Pharma tested anti-myostatin antibodies in 1 mg and 3 mg doses on humans and found that it was well tolerated. It is unlikely that you will be able to get your hands on the exact antibody formulation used by Acceleron, but almost any lab can formulate something similar.
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    I have heard that 50mcg is the starting dose....25mcg morning and night...IM seems to be effecting for a localized effects for muscle growth...but most do it sub q...

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    Wow this is interesting. I have seen some posts but I see some of you guys are really running it. Im curious. I want to hear how this goes.
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    For a dose as related to and already tested on humans see:
    Publications and Presentations
    (View the topics "relevant presentations" under ACE-031 / Muscle)

    Unfortunately, you will not likely be able to get the exact replication, but you can come close. Of course, there are many unknowns. "Myostatin" was discovered in 1997. In other words, the understanding is less than 20 years with very few human trials.

    For labs that will supply myostatin silencers, keyword "lab" along with

    "gdf-8 peptides"
    "myostatin antibodies"
    "GDF8 inhibitors"
    "propeptides gdf-8"
    "monaclonal gdf8"
    "synthetic peptides"


    You will find that there are many labs. You should request that your order comes prepared and ready to use for your "animal" experiments. If it cannot come prepared, request the correct reagent from the lab that you purchase it from. Do not store it and you should use the desired dose asap upon receipt. Also, if the lab says that you will need to centrafuge your order, you will need to do a dyi at home (lots of shaking).

    If you get too small of a dose, it is unlikely that you will receive any benefit. In nature there are humans without any myostatin so, hypothetically there would be no such thing as immediate death or over-muscleing from silencing too much myostatin.

    Hypothetically, and observed in many experiements, myostatin only works on skeletal muscle, but you would be really, really, fucked if your body was the strange-needle-in-the-haystack which unexpectedly hypertrophys smooth and/or cardiac muscle. For some the risk might be worth it. You could help me and perhaps many others if you correctly record and report the deatils of your proccess and findings. Of course, this could be done in private too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelzer View Post
    For a dose as related to and already tested on humans see:
    Publications and Presentations
    (View the topics "relevant presentations" under ACE-031 / Muscle)

    Unfortunately, you will not likely be able to get the exact replication, but you can come close. Of course, there are many unknowns. "Myostatin" was discovered in 1997. In other words, the understanding is less than 20 years with very few human trials.

    For labs that will supply myostatin silencers, keyword "lab" along with

    "gdf-8 peptides"
    "myostatin antibodies"
    "GDF8 inhibitors"
    "propeptides gdf-8"
    "monaclonal gdf8"
    "synthetic peptides"


    You will find that there are many labs. You should request that your order comes prepared and ready to use for your "animal" experiments. If it cannot come prepared, request the correct reagent from the lab that you purchase it from. Do not store it and you should use the desired dose asap upon receipt. Also, if the lab says that you will need to centrafuge your order, you will need to do a dyi at home (lots of shaking).

    If you get too small of a dose, it is unlikely that you will receive any benefit. In nature there are humans without any myostatin so, hypothetically there would be no such thing as immediate death or over-muscleing from silencing too much myostatin.

    Hypothetically, and observed in many experiements, myostatin only works on skeletal muscle, but you would be really, really, fucked if your body was the strange-needle-in-the-haystack which unexpectedly hypertrophys smooth and/or cardiac muscle. For some the risk might be worth it. You could help me and perhaps many others if you correctly record and report the deatils of your proccess and findings. Of course, this could be done in private too.

    Cheers!
    good post bro thanks!!! I almost missed this one!

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    I was just doing some internet reading about follistatin. I would be really interested in knowing more about it, especially from personal experience.

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    For dosing, you have to look at what the researchers did to obtain their results. I haven't seen anything about doses in micrograms for these substances. Everything I have seen in the research for follistatin and acvr2b (not sure about the pro peptide, but it would probably be similar) indicated two large doses with the second one being administered one week after. This is how I ran my acvr2b. I had 0.6mg divided into three vials of 0.2mg each. I took two of them at once, reconstituting them each (1ml of bacteriostatic water in each vial) and injecting one vial's worth in each quad (this was the location of many of the experiments, the other being the triceps muscle). One week after, I took the remaining 0.2mg, reconstituted it, and divided it in half for each quad. The results of just those amounts were incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saudades View Post
    The results of just those amounts were incredible.

    can you elaborate?

    did they make your ridiculous biceps even bigger?
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    i am curious about the subject myself. ive been looking into this as well. the amount needed to achieve what we all want is just to damn expensive IMO. but you better know im saving my penny's for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreww View Post
    can you elaborate?

    did they make your ridiculous biceps even bigger?
    There are some progress pics back in the acvr2b thread that compared to my avatar although my avatar has changed since then. http://www.musclechemistry.com/uploa...92-acvr2b.html

    Basically, I had an absolutely insane pump all over the first time working out after the first dose. Fat loss and muscle growth occurred at the same time during the next four weeks.

    I'm starting to wonder if this stuff may have changed me in some way. I have been off pretty much everything for a month now except my HRT dose, but I'm not gaining any fat back, and size and strength still seems to be increasing. I get pumps like the first time all the time now. The attached pic (again, yes, I need to shave) is from last Monday, Jan 3. I'm far more pumped and larger than I was five months ago. It just seems to steadily keep going so far, and I hope it continues.

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    Damn. You do look quite a bit bigger than I remember. What was the estimated cost?
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    x2 noticeably bigger

    how much could you contribute to your hgh cycle?
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    I thought that there was possible cancer risks with follistatin since it doesn't solely target GDF8? I used to have a bunch of info on it but it's been quite a while...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    Damn. You do look quite a bit bigger than I remember. What was the estimated cost?
    Thanks, I'm trying.

    The estimated cost of acvr2b for 1mg was $1,300 as the lowest price I could find. The other two compounds mentioned in the original post are being sold by stenlabs although their site is down at the moment. I think alibaba has a link to someone who is selling follistatin, but I couldn't verify whether it's the real stuff. The acvr2b that I got was direct from a lab so I know it was real.

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    Damn.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggerStronger View Post
    I thought that there was possible cancer risks with follistatin since it doesn't solely target GDF8? I used to have a bunch of info on it but it's been quite a while...
    The info is still around if you do a search. I didn't seem to see any cancer risks listed in any of the recent research, hmm...I'll have to go pull up that post.

    In the info on acvr2b, they mention that it also targets a few other things, but when they talked about the mice, they said they were healthy.

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    Interesting prices you guys are getting, i have been quoted (Direct from a lab) for Myostatin Anti-Bodies at 230€ per 0.1mg. And thats reduced to 174.80€ when buying 10 x 0.1mg. So doing the math for todays exchange rates for 1mg it 1748€ or $2270 plus shipping

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    And if you want the propeptide its an extra 20€ on the price per 0.1mg

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    So what about the research chem sites selling the propetides at 1mg. Would u need 10,000 of these things to make it effect?

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    i'm getting gdf-8(myostatin) 1mg kit(0.1mg/vial) in just $1000. i've ordered it and try it soon. i was just searching about the dosage of this peptide and i got the dosage info. here.

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    Suadades, could you provide references and calculations for your acvr2b dosage decision? The studies I have seen on mice discuss 10mg+/kg, equating to nearly a gram (or more) per dose for a 75+ kg human. Obviously that is cost prohibitive. I have suspicisions that your dose is very reasonable and justifiable, but I would like to hear your thoughts (and anyone else actually doing this) before I bias everyone with my info.
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    Sorry, I can't provide you any reference or calculation on the dosage, only that's what I could afford. I wanted to get at least one full mg of it, but I just didn't have the resources for it. I was aware of the dosage given to the mice, and I knew that to get that same result one would have to take roughly around 4 grams. Since the results of a dosage like that would take me from 210 to well over 300 lbs in only two weeks, I figured that 1 gram would probably be a good dosage, but that's still cost prohibitive so I had to settle for 1 mg--almost got that and got 0.6mg instead ($300 difference, ouch). I also figured that even at that small dosage, there should be effect enough to notice which there definitely was.

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    Thanks for the info. Didn't realize it was based on economics lol. There is a study with post menopausal women that were given 0.1mg - 3mg/kg, with a 5% effect on weight at the 1 md/kg level after about a month (I think biweekly dosing). So, the mice levels definitely are not necessary.

    That being said, even 1mg/kg is over 50 times more than you took. It's odd to me that such a vast range of dosages still has an effect. And, since they didn't report the 0.1mg/kg group results, I assume it was negative. Of course, that's in post-menopausal women, so perhaps there is something to the synergies that I've seen your posts speculate about.

    Also, calculations from known myostatin levels in human blood (10-100ng/ml depending on what study you believe) indicate that high ug quantities SHOULD be effective since they should be able to bind all the myostatin in your blood.

    Just wish there wasn't so much contradictory info: 50mg/kg still causes a dose-dependent increase in mice (indicating that less doesn't top the effect out), yet 1mg/kg has an effect (granted much less) in human women, while basic chemistry calculations indicate that you only have about 50ug of myostatin in your blood and so you should (depending on the exact affinity of the antibody) be able to neutralize it with 100-200ug antibody. Those numbers span an unconfortably large range...
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    BUMP for any more responses. Was hoping to see more research done by others with outcome and dosing. Thanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezskanken View Post
    BUMP for any more responses. Was hoping to see more research done by others with outcome and dosing. Thanks...
    know we use to have alot of posts on this, but not latley that i know of anyhow. Welcome to MuscleChemistry.com by the way!!!!


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    Thanks bro! No homo but your avatar is sick! What's your stats if you don't mind me asking? I have an opportunity to run this free, and trying to gather as much info as I can. Seems like an amazing peptide though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezskanken View Post
    Thanks bro! No homo but your avatar is sick! What's your stats if you don't mind me asking? I have an opportunity to run this free, and trying to gather as much info as I can. Seems like an amazing peptide though...
    Thnx bro, and if u run it let us know how it works for ya! As for me im 6'3 and maybe 255-65 in that pic.


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    So far I'm getting 142-150mcg split bi laterally. Then 7 days later, same thing? This site seemed to have had the most activity on it, even though it was a older thread, that's why I joined. But when I do, I will definitely post up results.

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    Just an update. Vials are 1mg, thinking about recon with 1ml of bac. Split that into 4 doses, and administer 2 doses and pin (1 pin in each tibials anterior). About 4-6 days later finish the rest, again splitting the doses into each tibials anterior's...thoughts please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezskanken View Post
    Just an update. Vials are 1mg, thinking about recon with 1ml of bac. Split that into 4 doses, and administer 2 doses and pin (1 pin in each tibials anterior). About 4-6 days later finish the rest, again splitting the doses into each tibials anterior's...thoughts please?
    Signed up to MC, purely to let you know I'm keen to find out how you go with the propeptide, the potential for it is unreal! Good luck bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryry View Post
    Signed up to MC, purely to let you know I'm keen to find out how you go with the propeptide, the potential for it is unreal! Good luck bro!
    I will log it for sure, as detailed as I can. I know one is probably out there, buti am having a hell of time finding it! from what I was able to come across, I put together a protocol that I will use soon. I expect to get my Myostatin with in a couple weeks. I will post everything I do with no lies or bs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezskanken View Post
    I will log it for sure, as detailed as I can. I know one is probably out there, buti am having a hell of time finding it! from what I was able to come across, I put together a protocol that I will use soon. I expect to get my Myostatin with in a couple weeks. I will post everything I do with no lies or bs...
    So ur running it by itself with no gear as I would imagine that's the sure way to know its working and what's working?


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    Im cruising right now which is retarded of me (1 cycle in my belt notched so far), scheduled for bloods next week. If all is well, blast off and probably wait till week 4 through 6 to start research. 600 test e and 300 deca for 12 maybe 14 weeks. Will end deca 2 weeks before test...

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    i came to this site by researching acrv2b, it just popped up for sale on the site i started using for peps, not an advertiser so i wont post the name but i found them on steroidology. $115 for 1mg. they are in IL. i have their mt II and ostarine and they both work so i might try the acvr2b like saudades did. biceps/ triceps and then medial delts. maybe a second vial for subq for overall growth.

    after looking around i found another site with gdf8 for sale ($88) and reading the description guess what the source is? E. coli!
    it is a bizarre world we live in. gila monster poison for diabetes, botulism for wrinkles, E coli for muscle growth. what's next? extract of cockroaches cures cancer and aids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lab_rat View Post
    i came to this site by researching acrv2b, it just popped up for sale on the site i started using for peps, not an advertiser so i wont post the name but i found them on steroidology. $115 for 1mg. they are in IL. i have their mt II and ostarine and they both work so i might try the acvr2b like saudades did. biceps/ triceps and then medial delts. maybe a second vial for subq for overall growth.

    after looking around i found another site with gdf8 for sale ($88) and reading the description guess what the source is? E. coli!
    it is a bizarre world we live in. gila monster poison for diabetes, botulism for wrinkles, E coli for muscle growth. what's next? extract of cockroaches cures cancer and aids?
    lol, dont laugh , its right around the corner brutha,lol

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    Hi guys

    I'm probably going to get my butt kicked for resurrecting a potentially dead thread... but I'm very interested to know what happened to the guys who tried this "miracle" peptide out. Anyone have any decent feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rippedgeek View Post
    Hi guys

    I'm probably going to get my butt kicked for resurrecting a potentially dead thread... but I'm very interested to know what happened to the guys who tried this "miracle" peptide out. Anyone have any decent feedback.

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    nothing at all because none are miracles


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    Haha... I can try and send you a New Zealand beer, but it will probably be stopped by customs... unless, of course, I label it as "Research Beer"... hmm...

    So the reason I'm asking is that I am very tempted to try some Myostatin Human Propeptide... but am finding it difficult to locate a decent log with clearly represented results.

    Also, and I hope it's OK to ask this... but how would you guys rate "l a b P E"? I've bought one batch of research material from them but have yet to start trying it on my chimp - service, for what it's worth, was very good.

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    Welcome to MuscleChemistry, and sorry but i dont understand who ur talking about, and its best you dont post the name anyways, we dont allow links and it will get ya banned quick asking for sources, just for a future refrence

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    OK, cool, and thanks for the heads-up. I'm just trying to gather info since I'm pretty new at this whole chemical enhancement business. For what it's worth, I am a type-1 diabetic and thus have access to all the insulin I could ever want... and what sucks is that I never even knew it could be used for bodybuilding purposes! I'm going to try and apply some of the things I've read on this (pretty amazing) forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rippedgeek View Post
    OK, cool, and thanks for the heads-up. I'm just trying to gather info since I'm pretty new at this whole chemical enhancement business. For what it's worth, I am a type-1 diabetic and thus have access to all the insulin I could ever want... and what sucks is that I never even knew it could be used for bodybuilding purposes! I'm going to try and apply some of the things I've read on this (pretty amazing) forum.
    good to hear brutha, and remember its 99% food and training -vs- 1% chemicals

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    androgens decreases myostatin significantly, follistatin increases fat.

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    Attachment 14261

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    Mutations in both copies of the myostatin gene.
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    Wtf is that lol


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    doubled mutated dog, Wendy, lives in Victoria, Canada.

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    Holy shit! Doesn't look like she's gonna live long with all that muscle ,,,,SAD!


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    Hi I'm interested in using follistatin 315. I need help on letting the company selling me the product how to prepare my shipment for ready use upon receiving my research product. Can you tell me things I should consider? It comes in two types of product, one with a BSA carrier and the other without the carrier. Which would be best in vivo adminstration? My product comes as follows: Recombinant Human Follistatin 315 aa 30‑344

    Lyophilized from a 0.2 Ám filtered solution in PBS
    I do not have PBS to reconstitute my protein, can I use purified water or is it recommended to get PBS?
    What dosage should I administer my protein, I receive 25 uL lyophilized and need to determine a reasonable solution to use.
    Also is 25 uL of follistatin 315 enough to see noticeable results?


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    AAA peptides not only has quality Folli, they also make it as simple as adding water. There is ALOT of fake Folli out there.

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