sorry to hear brutha. Why didnt you use our tried and true guy for those items. (Ron)
Their stock is bunk and outright dangerous! I got my Follistatin and Myo Pro Pep and once I was done with the Follistatin I tried to mix the Myo Pro Pep. It would not suspend so I did a large portion IM. I've had welts and flu like symptoms since and tonight I'm in the hospital for a "massive systemic immune reaction" hooked up IV's. I can't walk, have a oxygen mask on my face and I'm in and out of consciousness. These fucks won't bother to respond to one of my 3 emails or answer the phone on any of my 9 phone calls. Steer clear. Fair warning
i could see this coming. Dude, someone on another board had precision's stuff analyzed and its all chinese made, despite their claims. Contains traces of cyanide in the igf and a few other products from what the hplc said. They are in tampa, maybe a few locals should go pay them a visit....
Ron is gone. I had a 50% discount coming to me and was about to call him. No big deal for me but Im shocked about you. Ok so can you give me more details about your illness. What antibiotics are they running? and the dose. Infectious deasease docs involoved or is it a hospitalist. Huge difference in care. Let me know. Also, make sure they have you on heparin or lovenox for DVT prevention. If there is a small clot, you dont want it going systemic. You can call me if you want. Im happy to help. Just pm me your number
And im not one to bash other companys as u all know, i havent posted one negative thing about another company in ages but alot of these peptide companys are buying garbage shit from china, and thats why when guys finaly try our IGF they are amazed and thats why we have many many years of hundreds and hundreds of great customer reviews.
Sorry this happened to you bro!
Wow, hope you're starting to feel better, Dude.
I know there have been others that have had some issues with the pro-peptide. I read at promuscle that it also contains an amino acid (which one I don't know) to aid in absorption, and that's where some have reported the particles that don't dissolve all the way. I personally don't buy that explanation. The components themselves don't need anything extra IMO. Some have gotten nothing in the way of results and similar flu-like symptoms. Others like myself have seemingly good results from the follistatin. I originally trusted the place because one of the owners is Phil Hernon. I have the feeling that they probably had some real stuff but depleted their supply and possibly sold a "filler" to everyone afterwards.
One thing I need to note, and this is not in any way a defense of the company, but this is something everyone should be aware of when using something that inhibits myostatin:
Stopping myostatin for real does increase muscle, BUT it also decreases fat. If one has a higher bf percentage, it is unknown how much it will affect this versus the muscle gain, so this can be one reason for a weight loss instead of a weight gain while inhibiting myostatin. I originally noted with my acvr2b usage (which I know was real stuff direct from the pharmaceutical company), my weight went down from a bf loss although my muscularity also increased. I think IMO that it set the stage for later gains.
on PM you cant post negative about a sponsor, board rules...i dont bash anyones company and i like another on this board am friends with an owner of that company. Im simply relaying what i read and saw personally from another board that had an issue with precision and paid to have all the stuff tested. The results came back and take it for what it is.
Dude, rest up and recover fully before going back to the gym. This isnt something to be taken lightly. Keep things to yourself and those you trust. what did the docs ask you as to what you did to bring these symptoms on? im curious as to what they were thinking
even if you do, a mod will ban you and the post is edited/deleted....rules of the board and privilege of being a sponsor...i know first hand, been on both sides of the equation, as a customer and a sponsor
Thank you all for the support. It means alot and I've learned my lesson.
To say a companys stock is bunk is a little extreme. If those were the ONLY compounds you were using, then that would be a different story. I personnally have used PP sildenafil citrate, arimidex, and cabargoline (works great!), and they all work great. I cant even look at any tren at all normally without getting BAD gyno, but with their cabargoline, it is not even an issue whatsoever. I know they were having some issues with their folli and myo pro. People were complaining about welts an such from the folli, i know that for sure. Not trying to sound like a jerk here bro, just saying i have used certain compounds with good results. Hope you get a speedy recovery, and get healthy quick bud
From some info I can gather from some comments here and other places it seems maybe this stuff is Chinese crap, by stuff does that mean all their products? (not my words just what I read) Someone claimed to have it tested (not sure what products) and contained some trace amounts of cyanide? Are there any confirmed companies who make ancillaries, peptides etc from non Chinese powder companies? Hopefully US companies?
The problen I have with research chems is that it can kill you....I used T3 years ago and the company provide an over dose bottle to me and I ended up in the hospital.
I seem guys get miss label products...etc
Now I try to do a lot of research on the company I use and also start out with a very small dosage. ( not sure if that will help)
I am willing to pay a few bucks more for legit stuff.
Just to update you guys. Stopped by Bayfront Hospital today and got some bloodwork. They are not 100% as to what put me into such a dangerous position that fast, but cyanide and formaldehyde were found in my blood.
I also tried 2ml of their claimed 200mcg per ml Clen today and dozed off 45 minutes later. I'm in awe.
Hopefully you are keeping all your records. I would spend $100.00 and have an attorney send thema letter and threaten to litigate if certain remedies are not made. I would not second geuss that. When you own a business, you must be accountable for all negatice actions. They dont mind cashing the checks (positive actions) of business.
not bashing all their products, but when the reports are true about your peptides, then thats the truth...i have personally seen the HPLC analysis and it says cyanide. The Dude has bloodwork confirming cyanide. Proof positvie in my mind.
Are all products bad? NO, but your using simple stuff to get, that i can order tomorrow from a company in the US and set up a research shop of my own. If a few are bad then i guess you just have to know what to order. I just like one stop shopping so thats all im saying. Everyone should do whats best for them and support companies they value or believe in...thats what i do, hasnt failed me for the most part yet. The guy i know with them is still high on my list as well, known him for quite some time and i know this kind of stuff gets him
Genesis was the only peptide company i trusted and he's gone for good from what i know first hand on the matter.
Rest up dude like i said, recover, learn, and get yourself right, then go back at it
I'm new to this board. I am sorry to hear about what happened to you Mr. Dude. Hope your recovery is fast. Follistatin and Myo Pro Pep were some of the peptides i wanted to try but now i am scared because of what happened to you. i believe the peptides were not filtered correctly. what products would you recommend from xxxxxxxxxxxxx? what peptide companies would you recommend besides xxxxxxxxxxxx
Thank you for your time sir.
edited out the compnay name, they arent advertisers here so no links or ads for them
The Dude I am sorry to hear about this. What a shitty situation for someone just wanting to improve themselves. After reading this thread I had something I wanted to share as well.
I ordered clen from PP as well. It took almost a month for a domestic delivery. I thought at least it was a good price so it was worth the wait. I was wrong. I took the clen for 3 weeks before I tossed it. I felt nothing on low doses of it. I started with 50mcg and worked up to 100 within the first week of use with no real effects from normal clen. In the past, 100mcgs of clen would really jolt me up..not with this.
So I kept upping my dose. Like you I was feeling nothing from 200mcgs of clen. That's ridiculous. When I went above 200mcgs I started to notice that I was becoming tired all the time. Not a normal tired either. It was more of a "trance" tired. For the past few days I have felt really out of it mentally. It was too a degree of where my significant other actually asked me "what are you on"? (she was hinting that I appeared to be on drugs)
Some weird things i've noticed..
I had no tremors even at 400mcgs. I was sweating profusely. My stomach was swollen feeling for the entire day after ingesting it. There are times in the day where I feel "out of it". It's hard to describe the "out of it",but I can assure everyone that it wasn't anything close to the "speed high" you feel from clen. It was more of a very slow mentally and physically feeling.
I just posted this to make more people aware of this stuff. There's no way I can say exactly what I've been taking,because I honestly don't know. I know clen doesn't give me the side effects i've been feeling. I've been using research chems/AS for 9 years and never felt anything like this.
I wouldn't use this stuff again if it was free. It is a danger to the bodybuilding/powerlifting community imo. I would strongly suggest against anyone using this,but I will also say to the people who are taking high doses of this stuff to stop..and stop immediately. If you can't feel 100mcgs of clen you need to toss it..no questions asked.
Sorry to hear you got sick Dude... That truly sucks!
This is the second thread I've read about these guys. Another big thread on a different board I frequent spoke of other really bad health issues resulting from use of PP's stuff.
He is a reputable member and a supermod at another forum as well. Apparently the owner of PP's hasn't been responding favorably (if at all) to anyone regarding their resulting issues post use of his products. Also read he deletes bad review threads from his sponsor forums on various boards.
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Hey listen. If someone's negligence put you in the hospital, then do the right thing and get a free councel from attorney and send the company a letter. Basically, use the attorney as your torch and fucking litigate. Not sure why this hasnt popped-up more. You better beleive that if i fuck-up in the hosptial, the first thing I get is a letter from a patients attorney. So, whats the difference here??
*i did my clinical rotation at bayfront, then wound up workin' in the ER there part time for a short time period.
Precision Peptides, Inc.
1642 Land O Lake Blvd
Lutz, FL 33549
Toll Free 1-855-568-3525
Fax : 813-948-0592
I believe if you do an internet search for the address it will come up as his home address. The above is the business address. I am pretty sure I am correct.
hey all. I know this is my first post, so take it for what it's worth, but I placed 2 orders with them in the last 10 days and received my first order last week and the order I placed sunday was shipped today. I got some cjc and ghrp-6 and as far as I can tell they are good. I ordered my first one without searching google for recent reviews, and when I did I was sure I was gonna get ripped off. I don't doubt anything anyone has said on here, so I guess that they must have gotten their s**t together. again I know I am mr. 1 post saying good things about a company that clearly has f***ed some people here over.
Something needs to be done on this before it kills someone. Bro I feel bad for ya, Its hard to deal with companies who dont sell what they say or sell shit that gives you infections etc. I dont care who it is it can still happen in any start up business. I bought shit in mexico from a pharmacy and it turned out to be 50mg real stuff from the 200mg stuff it said it was, from a pharmacy! Im happy to hear your alive and doing well, hopefully they get what they should get.
I'd like to add something from a scientific perspective about Precision Peptides: They are selling crap that, pure or not, they shouldn't even be selling. My guess is they just look for the cheapest possible supplier (china?) and resell whatever version that can of something, knowing that most lay people won't know the difference.
For example, look at their Follistatin description. As of today (in case they change it), it reads:
NOW AVAILABLE NEW STOCK FOLLISTATIN 315AA
PROVEN PURITY 97.8%
Follistatin 315AA is the same as Follistatin344.
follistatin344 converts to 315 in the body and is a more direct peptide
ADVISEMENT: THE PRODUCT INCLUDES A GST TAG THAT MAY CAUSE STOMACH DISCOMFORT TO SOME SUBJECTS
OK, first of all, being 97.8% pure without knowing what those other 2.2% are is meaningless. If that other 2.2% is endotoxin, you'll die of anaphalactic shock.
Second, why are they selling something with a GST tag on it? A GST tag is used as part of the protein purification process and should later be cleaved off. Don't take my word for it, read this:
Glutathione S-transferase - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nothing about this site suggests trustworthiness.
I think the people on this forum are relatively educated and do serious research. Other sites, not so much. So, I hope people that are members of other boards take the time to post information about Precision Peptides elsewhere so that they don't kill someone.
PP are F'ken Jokers...My cousin did not know all this, he placed a decent order from them. I ended up getting few gifts from cousin which included their Follistatin. I got welts using it and cause my cousin is traveling I ended up sending them the mail. here are the transcripts from the email...just shows the Jokers they are....I am just waiting for my cousin to come back, and honestly I would go south to give them a decent visit....
I apologize for the bonding material. We constantly stay on our supplier about that. It's the filler used to protect the peptide while in transit. This does not effect the peptide itself.
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:38 AM, *****@hotmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, everything is tested because I am already using Cjc and ghrp for last 6 months without any issues. Follistatin stays cloudy upon mixing.
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On May 24, 2011, at 5:38 AM, James Tamborello <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
could be the mixing solution is not fully dissolving the bonding material in the vial. does the material fully dissolve upon recon? Administration technique could be a possibility. Could be the BA itself. Have you tried Bacwater?
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:12 AM, ********@hotmail.com> wrote:
But this doesn't explain the inflammation and welts,
I am an orthopedic surgeon, so kind of understand a little bit.
********Sent using Rogers iPhone.
On May 24, 2011, at 4:06 AM, James Tamborello <email@example.com> wrote:
The Follistatin is injected by means of a viral vector, that is a Adeno Associated Virus used as a transport for the drug that is injected.
It is a common method called Gene Therapy, and has been used in humans with other drugs.
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On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 2:33 AM, ********@hotmail.com> wrote:
My cousin ordered quite a big order from you guys... I got 4 vials of Follistatin, which I think are from the bad batch.. when Dissolved with BA, there is a while residue in it and when Injected I was sore at the spot for 6 days. two of them are dissolved and I tried to use them, but ended up getting sick, If you want I can send you the pictures of the Vials. What are your policies about exchange of the contaminated products ? My cousin is in ******* right now but when he comes back he will contact you about his Folli too.. if you want I can get his order number or another info you want.....It was shipped to adress at ***************.
Hey, I've been on this board a while, but I almost never post because I mainly read just for everyone's insight. I just wanted to pop in to say if you ever discover something is coming from China do NOT buy it. I live in China and I know how quality control goes here. 2008 melanine in the milk killing thousands of babies, just to turn a buck... errr yuan. Recently a company was busted for making bread from waste/recycle paper... bread from PAPER!! The melanine dude got the death penalty and so did the next guy who started selling it out the back to other regions of China.. but those are just mainstream news examples to appease the people for lack of any accountability.
IGF is the only supplement I use - I'm not hardcore like you guys :-). I used IGF in 2008 and recently this last Fall had MC ship me some to China - well worth it. I just want to toss in my 2 cents to say MC has always been quality and that is something of true value. IGF, having permanent effects is also real value, particularly for a guy like me who goes through "phases" of working out versus other sports activities that are more dexterity/agility/cardio oriented - if I stop I don't lose the gains.
Dude, sorry to hear this; good to hear your doing better. Bottom line: don't buy anything from China that requires high quality to be of value. Later guys.
im old fashion kind of guy, i use igf-1 religously cause i know it works great and keeps me tight whether or not im on anything, which you all know im not due to my wife and I trying to have a baby, but i wouldnt mind trying some of these peptides u guys are always talking about
and yes it would be nice to have a new company here to serve our community exclusively!
I am VERY fortunate, in that I come from South Africa where there are quite a few progressively-minded doctors that understand the need for testosterone supplementation to achieve physique goals. My GP gives me Test. Cypionate from a worldwide reputable "FDA Approved" manufacturer @ 200 mg every two weeks. I know that's not a lot but I am seeing nice results from it. He also gives me methyltest, of which I use 20 mg before each workout on alternating days. I know lots of you may object to methyltest but I like it because of the short half-life and its near bio-identity to test. I have used Oxandroplex (may I post product names?), so I trust that manufacturer and intend to use their brand of Oral Turinabol. If I were ever to use IGF-1, I would only get it from this site as I have been lurking for a protracted period and the stuff seems legit.
Marcus Haley was arrested for Prostitution. Yes Prostitution and I heard it was a man that propositioned him. Business must be bad at Precision Peptides.
BTW the Florida Statute that he was arrest for is
(b) To offer, or to offer or agree to secure, another for the purpose of prostitution or for any other lewd or indecent act.
I used to have respect for him, not so much anymore.
ordered research chemicals from precisionpeptides
8 different kinds of them . Fast shipping came beautifully sealed . I thought it is a top notch stuff ,looked so good . Sealed like injectables .
unfortunately after trying them discovered that they all had lightly colored sugar water . No chemicals in it whatsoever .
I emailed customer support , received no answer whatsoever .Will use chargeback through my bank and advise you to do the same .
do not let them get away with stealing your money by fraud . What you do is pack is and ship it back and give receipt to your bank and tell them it was not the right stuff .
web sites like that bring very bad reputation to all research chemical companies .Now I'am terrified of all of them .Will use legitimate UK pharmacy only from now on .
This thread makes me view research chems and the places that sell them in a whole new light. I'm going to keep this brief but I was using precision peptides. Before they were even precision. I was using a site called choice chems until one day It try it and it says no longer choicechems now precsionpeptides. So I used them until there website no longer came up. Basically I would get nolva and clomid. No problems but who knows maybe they were misdosed or bs and I just didn't make the connection. So with no PP I needed another researchchem site. So I'm searching and find one with just ridiculously cheaper prices. It looks legit so i order what would have normally cost way more for practically nothing even get an extra bottle for free. So it been like a week, no gyno has turned into the beginnings of gyno. I notice the stuff makes me a bit ill and i'm accually getting a side effect or two from the full page listing of them, never seen that before. So I do a little research into why I suspect the stuff isn't working. I do a bunch of searches about the site (which is Sten BTW) and low and behold I see that the guys are former partners and there's scandalous crap going on. So now I'm wondering whats up with Sten and they're insanely low prices and selection so wide I don't even know what most of it is. I should have known if it looks too good to be true it is. Anybody have the lowdown on sten cuz it could just be the new bunk PP op. I have they're product but I'm too scared to touch it. I saw a bunch of posts about how they were good but those were at least 2 years old and things can change really fast.
Sten is Precision Peptides. They are jockeyed by the site that so many people find as the first site on a search engine. The entire site is geared towards generating revenue for its sponsors and bans any member with anything bad to say regardless of the proof they may have. The MC store here has 100% legitimate products ALL of the time. All of the products work as time has shown. I strongly encourage you to try them for yourself. In fact I encourage you to become a frequent contributor to this site. You'll find friendly knowledgable guys as opposed to the garbage you find on other sites. As far as the stuff you've got now.... Personally I would and did throw it away. You will also learn that this site holds its sponsors accountable and despite sponsors being a huge source of revenue, I've never seen a member shafted over a sponsor. This is the only site I visit.
Sten Labs is not Precision Peptides.
Sten Labs is still good.
Rumor has it the Precision Peptides and DNA Peptides were both shut down. They were run by the same people that STOLE from Sten labs. DNA Peptides was raided from what I hear....not confirmed. They were selling roids from there also....from what I am told.
Both PP and DNA sites are down. Do a charge back if you have not gotten your order....Doubt that you ever will.