sorry to hear brutha. Why didnt you use our tried and true guy for those items. (Ron)
Their stock is bunk and outright dangerous! I got my Follistatin and Myo Pro Pep and once I was done with the Follistatin I tried to mix the Myo Pro Pep. It would not suspend so I did a large portion IM. I've had welts and flu like symptoms since and tonight I'm in the hospital for a "massive systemic immune reaction" hooked up IV's. I can't walk, have a oxygen mask on my face and I'm in and out of consciousness. These fucks won't bother to respond to one of my 3 emails or answer the phone on any of my 9 phone calls. Steer clear. Fair warning
i could see this coming. Dude, someone on another board had precision's stuff analyzed and its all chinese made, despite their claims. Contains traces of cyanide in the igf and a few other products from what the hplc said. They are in tampa, maybe a few locals should go pay them a visit....
Ron is gone. I had a 50% discount coming to me and was about to call him. No big deal for me but Im shocked about you. Ok so can you give me more details about your illness. What antibiotics are they running? and the dose. Infectious deasease docs involoved or is it a hospitalist. Huge difference in care. Let me know. Also, make sure they have you on heparin or lovenox for DVT prevention. If there is a small clot, you dont want it going systemic. You can call me if you want. Im happy to help. Just pm me your number
And im not one to bash other companys as u all know, i havent posted one negative thing about another company in ages but alot of these peptide companys are buying garbage shit from china, and thats why when guys finaly try our IGF they are amazed and thats why we have many many years of hundreds and hundreds of great customer reviews.
Sorry this happened to you bro!
Dude, get well bro......fucking chinese. i used the china igf before as well and not only did i not see any noticeable change, it gave me the flu symtoms as well.
MC all the way
Wow, hope you're starting to feel better, Dude.
I know there have been others that have had some issues with the pro-peptide. I read at promuscle that it also contains an amino acid (which one I don't know) to aid in absorption, and that's where some have reported the particles that don't dissolve all the way. I personally don't buy that explanation. The components themselves don't need anything extra IMO. Some have gotten nothing in the way of results and similar flu-like symptoms. Others like myself have seemingly good results from the follistatin. I originally trusted the place because one of the owners is Phil Hernon. I have the feeling that they probably had some real stuff but depleted their supply and possibly sold a "filler" to everyone afterwards.
One thing I need to note, and this is not in any way a defense of the company, but this is something everyone should be aware of when using something that inhibits myostatin:
Stopping myostatin for real does increase muscle, BUT it also decreases fat. If one has a higher bf percentage, it is unknown how much it will affect this versus the muscle gain, so this can be one reason for a weight loss instead of a weight gain while inhibiting myostatin. I originally noted with my acvr2b usage (which I know was real stuff direct from the pharmaceutical company), my weight went down from a bf loss although my muscularity also increased. I think IMO that it set the stage for later gains.
on PM you cant post negative about a sponsor, board rules...i dont bash anyones company and i like another on this board am friends with an owner of that company. Im simply relaying what i read and saw personally from another board that had an issue with precision and paid to have all the stuff tested. The results came back and take it for what it is.
Dude, rest up and recover fully before going back to the gym. This isnt something to be taken lightly. Keep things to yourself and those you trust. what did the docs ask you as to what you did to bring these symptoms on? im curious as to what they were thinking
even if you do, a mod will ban you and the post is edited/deleted....rules of the board and privilege of being a sponsor...i know first hand, been on both sides of the equation, as a customer and a sponsor
Thank you all for the support. It means alot and I've learned my lesson.
To say a companys stock is bunk is a little extreme. If those were the ONLY compounds you were using, then that would be a different story. I personnally have used PP sildenafil citrate, arimidex, and cabargoline (works great!), and they all work great. I cant even look at any tren at all normally without getting BAD gyno, but with their cabargoline, it is not even an issue whatsoever. I know they were having some issues with their folli and myo pro. People were complaining about welts an such from the folli, i know that for sure. Not trying to sound like a jerk here bro, just saying i have used certain compounds with good results. Hope you get a speedy recovery, and get healthy quick bud
From some info I can gather from some comments here and other places it seems maybe this stuff is Chinese crap, by stuff does that mean all their products? (not my words just what I read) Someone claimed to have it tested (not sure what products) and contained some trace amounts of cyanide? Are there any confirmed companies who make ancillaries, peptides etc from non Chinese powder companies? Hopefully US companies?
The problen I have with research chems is that it can kill you....I used T3 years ago and the company provide an over dose bottle to me and I ended up in the hospital.
I seem guys get miss label products...etc
Now I try to do a lot of research on the company I use and also start out with a very small dosage. ( not sure if that will help)
I am willing to pay a few bucks more for legit stuff.
Just to update you guys. Stopped by Bayfront Hospital today and got some bloodwork. They are not 100% as to what put me into such a dangerous position that fast, but cyanide and formaldehyde were found in my blood.
I also tried 2ml of their claimed 200mcg per ml Clen today and dozed off 45 minutes later. I'm in awe.
Hopefully you are keeping all your records. I would spend $100.00 and have an attorney send thema letter and threaten to litigate if certain remedies are not made. I would not second geuss that. When you own a business, you must be accountable for all negatice actions. They dont mind cashing the checks (positive actions) of business.
not bashing all their products, but when the reports are true about your peptides, then thats the truth...i have personally seen the HPLC analysis and it says cyanide. The Dude has bloodwork confirming cyanide. Proof positvie in my mind.
Are all products bad? NO, but your using simple stuff to get, that i can order tomorrow from a company in the US and set up a research shop of my own. If a few are bad then i guess you just have to know what to order. I just like one stop shopping so thats all im saying. Everyone should do whats best for them and support companies they value or believe in...thats what i do, hasnt failed me for the most part yet. The guy i know with them is still high on my list as well, known him for quite some time and i know this kind of stuff gets him
Genesis was the only peptide company i trusted and he's gone for good from what i know first hand on the matter.
Rest up dude like i said, recover, learn, and get yourself right, then go back at it
I'm new to this board. I am sorry to hear about what happened to you Mr. Dude. Hope your recovery is fast. Follistatin and Myo Pro Pep were some of the peptides i wanted to try but now i am scared because of what happened to you. i believe the peptides were not filtered correctly. what products would you recommend from xxxxxxxxxxxxx? what peptide companies would you recommend besides xxxxxxxxxxxx
Thank you for your time sir.
edited out the compnay name, they arent advertisers here so no links or ads for them
The Dude I am sorry to hear about this. What a shitty situation for someone just wanting to improve themselves. After reading this thread I had something I wanted to share as well.
I ordered clen from PP as well. It took almost a month for a domestic delivery. I thought at least it was a good price so it was worth the wait. I was wrong. I took the clen for 3 weeks before I tossed it. I felt nothing on low doses of it. I started with 50mcg and worked up to 100 within the first week of use with no real effects from normal clen. In the past, 100mcgs of clen would really jolt me up..not with this.
So I kept upping my dose. Like you I was feeling nothing from 200mcgs of clen. That's ridiculous. When I went above 200mcgs I started to notice that I was becoming tired all the time. Not a normal tired either. It was more of a "trance" tired. For the past few days I have felt really out of it mentally. It was too a degree of where my significant other actually asked me "what are you on"? (she was hinting that I appeared to be on drugs)
Some weird things i've noticed..
I had no tremors even at 400mcgs. I was sweating profusely. My stomach was swollen feeling for the entire day after ingesting it. There are times in the day where I feel "out of it". It's hard to describe the "out of it",but I can assure everyone that it wasn't anything close to the "speed high" you feel from clen. It was more of a very slow mentally and physically feeling.
I just posted this to make more people aware of this stuff. There's no way I can say exactly what I've been taking,because I honestly don't know. I know clen doesn't give me the side effects i've been feeling. I've been using research chems/AS for 9 years and never felt anything like this.
I wouldn't use this stuff again if it was free. It is a danger to the bodybuilding/powerlifting community imo. I would strongly suggest against anyone using this,but I will also say to the people who are taking high doses of this stuff to stop..and stop immediately. If you can't feel 100mcgs of clen you need to toss it..no questions asked.
Sorry to hear you got sick Dude... That truly sucks!
This is the second thread I've read about these guys. Another big thread on a different board I frequent spoke of other really bad health issues resulting from use of PP's stuff.
He is a reputable member and a supermod at another forum as well. Apparently the owner of PP's hasn't been responding favorably (if at all) to anyone regarding their resulting issues post use of his products. Also read he deletes bad review threads from his sponsor forums on various boards.
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