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    Default 10 of the best steroid cycles.



    IGF-1 Sale!
    There are loads of great cycles of steroids aimed at different standards of bodybuilder or looking at different outcome. I've just picked out ten great ones and given a brief description for each. Please bear in mind that sometimes there are different names for drugs depending on where you are in the world or who makes it.

    Most importantly - do not even consider using steroids unless your diet is ideal for gaining muscle mass, even if you are looking to increase your definition. You should also be training very hard and regular. Make sure your natural gains have slowed down if this is to be your first time. Read the other articles on MuscleTalk, or post questions on the board if you have any queries.

    Gynecomastia (presence of female breast tissue) and other aromatising side effects of some steroids (for example water retention) may be more apparent in certain individuals. If this is a problem take 20mg per day of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen until symptoms disappear, then continue with 10mg per day until the end of the cycle, or Clomid. It is generally thought best not to take Nolvadex unless you have these side effects, though it is good practice to keep some in stock in case it's required.

    Clomid or HCG may be taken post cycle if a few weeks break is expected. This is in order to help kick start your own natural testosterone secretion, to minimise post-cycle side effects and, more importantly, to minimise any muscle loss after a course. There are a number of recommended ways to take Clomid, but an effective method is: 100mg per day for 7 days commencing 7-18 days post cycle depending on what is in the cycle. This is followed by a further 50mg per day for a further 2 weeks.

    Some folk prefer to use HCG, and after heavy stacks both may be suggested. HCG should commence during the last week, with a jab weekly, for 3 jabs of 2500iu each.

    Also I've not mentioned beta-agonists, thyroid hormones or growth hormone in this article. These can be added to any of the stacks as appropriate.

    1. Beginner Cycle #1
    The most frequently asked question in the steroids forum is for a great effective beginners cycle:

    Deca durabolan - 200-400mg per week for 8 weeks
    Sustanon 250 OR Testaviron depot - 500mg per week for 8 weeks

    This is a standard first course recommended by most, even if the individual wishes to lose fat (as diet is the key to fat mobilisation, NOT gear). Whether you opt for Testaviron or Sustanon is personal choice or depends on availability; both are great drugs. 400mg of Deca per week is generally assumed to be the minimum amount for gains, however, many first time users do extremely well on less than this.

    Continue on this for the full 8 weeks, but if you are still growing well, why stop? Review gains every two weeks, and it may be continued for 10, 12 or more weeks.

    Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 10-14 days afterwards.

    The testosterone and the Deca can be split down into 2-3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

    2. Beginners Cycle #2 - The Classic Mass Builder
    This is a variation on the above:

    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week for 8 weeks
    Sustanon 250 OR Testaviron depot - 500mg per week for 8 weeks
    Dianabol - 30mg per day, six days per week for 6 weeks

    This stack should produce good results for the steroid user looking for mass. Here the Deca should be 400mg for optimum effects, and the Dianabol at the onset helps kick start the cycle while you are waiting for the longer acting Deca and test to take effect.

    Nolvadex should be on hand in case symptoms of aromatisation become apparent. Clomid should be used post cycle commencing at 10-14 days afterwards. You may hold a lot of water from this brought about by the Dianabol and the testosterone but this can be reduced by the use of Nolvadex / Tamoxifen or Arimidex.

    The dosage of Dianabol may be divided out through out the day and taken every 3-4 hrs as it has such a short half-life. Though most people take half in the morning and half in the evening. Take them with / after a protein-based meal.

    The testosterone and the Deca can be split down into 3 shots per week: 250mg of test (1ml) plus 100mg of Deca (1ml) mixed into the same syringe, and another of 200mg of Deca (2ml).

    3. Nick's Favourite - well, one of many!
    One of my many favourites, again a variation on the above, just with more dosage. This one is a great mass builder and for the more advanced bodybuilder:

    Testaviron depot - 750mg per week for 8 weeks
    Deca durabolan - 500mg per week for 8 weeks
    Dianabol (Naposims) - 30mg per day, Monday to Friday weeks 2-7

    This is a big stack, but not huge, but bloody great !!! I always seem to grow well on Testaviron.

    The above instructions apply, i.e. Nolvadex, Clomid, etc. Clomid should begin 7 days post cycle.

    4. A Biggy from Trident
    Trident claims this is his favourite cycle which he has done a few times:

    Weeks 1 - 4
    Sustanon 250 - 1,000mg per week
    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week
    Anadrol50 / Anapolan 50 - 100mg per day


    Weeks 5 - 8
    Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week
    Testaviron depot - 1,500mg per week
    Dianabol / Anabol - 50mg per day
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week


    Weeks 9 - 12
    Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week
    Testaviron depot - 250mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week


    Nolvadex 10mg per day all through
    Proviron - 50mg per day weeks 2 to 6.
    Commence Clomid week 10 - 50mgs per day for 14 days
    HCG - 2 shots per week of 2500iu with the Clomid


    This is a big cycle, and very androgenic. Like me, Trident swears by Testaviron. Side effects may be high, hence the use of Nolvadex throughout, and the use of Clomid commencing 14 days afterwards, and HCG before the end of the cycle. The use of HCG gets your own testosterone levels up before any fall in androgens. There is a degree of tapering in this cycle due to its high testosterone amounts.

    5. Superman's Super Stack
    This is another great lean mass builder, from a prominent member:

    Finajet / Trenbolone - 75mg per day
    Winstrol - 50mg per day
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone - 100mg every other day


    A six-week course and the usual precautions apply.

    6. Phantomdh's 'Sus-deca-dbol-end-with-winny' Stack
    Phantomdh's favorite cycle is the 'Sus-deca-dbol-end-with-winny' cycle:

    Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 35mg per day, weeks 1-4
    Winstrol 30mg/ed, weeks 5-10


    This is another great mass builder. The usual precautions apply.

    7. A Testosterone-Free Lean Mass Builder
    This is one if you want to avoid testosterone-based steroids. It's too often assumed that just because 'mild' steroids like Primabolan are not very androgenic, then they're not very good mass builders. Remember, all steroids are anabolic, and Primabolan as part of a stack is an excellent adjunct:

    Primabolan depot - 300mg per week for 8 weeks
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week for 8 weeks
    Winstrol - 150mg per week, weeks 2-7

    This is not a huge stack, but is great for building quality, lean size (coupled with a sensible diet). We have a number of non-bodybuilding members of MuscleTalk, e.g. athletes, footballers, etc, and this may be a great cycle for them to try.

    8. Knorkop's Frontloader
    This is a great cycle from Knorkop, used as an example of frontloading Equipoise and Deca:

    Week 1 - Frontloading
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 800mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 800mg per week
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone - 100 mg every other day


    Week 2
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone - 100 mg every other day


    Week 3 - 4
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Winstrol - 50mg every other day


    Week 5 - 8
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Winstrol - 50mg every other day


    Week 9 and 10:
    Equipoise / Bolderbol-H - 400mg per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week
    Testosterone propionate / Viromone: 100mg every other day


    This is a great lean mass builder again, showing how frontloading is done. The downside is a lot of jabs, due to Equipoise being just 50mg per 1ml. The usual precautions apply, and use HCG and Clomid post cycle at 7 days.

    9. Wrongun's Mind Blower:
    This 'Mind Blowing Stack' was posted by Wrongun. It is a heavy androgenic cycle, and only for use by the experienced gear-user.

    Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Equipoise - 800mg per week, weeks 1-10
    Dianabol - 50-75mg per day, weeks 1-5/6
    Testosterone suspension - 100mg per day, weeks 1-4/5
    Finajet/Trenbolone - 150mg per day, last 4-6 weeks
    Winstrol at the last - 100mg per day, last 4-6 weeks

    This is not for the faint hearted, and certainly for advanced bodybuilders only. Equipoise is used rather than Deca so as not to overdo progesterone aromatisation. This involves a lot of injections, so try to get Ttokkyo Equipoise, as this is 200mg per 1ml, as opposed to Ganabol or Bolderbol H, which is 50mg per 1ml.

    Side effects will be high on this so take precautions. I would recommend Nolvadex use throughout at 10mg per day, or Arimidex 1mg every other day. Clomid and HCG post cycle are a must - commence the HCG in the last week of the cycle, but Clomid 14 days afterwards

    10. Another Fave!
    Nice and simple, but very effective:

    Anadrol 50 / Anapolan 50 - 100mg per day, 6 days per week
    Deca durabolan - 400mg per week

    The usual precautions are a must here, with Clomid commencing 7 days post cycle.
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    3,4,5 would be a couple of ones that I'd recommend as well

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    honestly any combo of items (as long as its legit) would be fine...the big key is getting the diet down...

    for mass building

    long acting test (enth,cyp,sust, ect) 500-1000mg per wk
    deca 400-900mg per wk
    d bol 20-100mg per day
    ADD ON'S ---
    hgh 4-8iu's ED (5on 2off)
    insulin (humalog or humalin r) 5-10iu's morning and post workout
    igf 1 20-100mcg's pre workout
    arimadex (use the least amount as possiable) .5mg 2x wk

    of course doses depend on experiance and how long training. the HGH/slin shouldnt be used until all gains cant be made anymore with regular AAS.

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    gh would be a good add on to anything

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    good post bro, i just found this post on google! Good stuff!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    good post bro, i just found this post on google! Good stuff!
    lol this was a while back!

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    Default 10 of the best steroid cycles.

    For all around "bodybuilding" I've never seen gains from any combo of AAS than Deca and Test
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    Test as a base for everything, even milkshakes lol but seriously
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dude View Post
    For all around "bodybuilding" I've never seen gains from any combo of AAS than Deca and Test
    Yeah, bro I agree. Adding decca has been great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal85 View Post
    Test as a base for everything, even milkshakes
    Lmao

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    Has anyone tried the high dose tren with low dose test...been hearing people doing this

    100-200mg Tren Ace ED or EOD
    200-300mg Long acting test wkly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris250 View Post
    Has anyone tried the high dose tren with low dose test...been hearing people doing this

    100-200mg Tren Ace ED or EOD
    200-300mg Long acting test wkly
    No but I've read some theories behind it. Integrated still in someone who actually uses this method.

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    200mg's of tren a ED would put me in the looney bin!

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    If I can grab some good tren a soon I'd be willing to give it a try. I love tren and can handle the sides pretty well. Night sweats are the only sides I really get, but at 200mg ED or EOD I matly develop the other sides

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    hii,
    i going 2 use a combination of testa pro, deca duroblin, dianabol and arimidex for bulking.i going 2 use this for 6 weeks nd aftr tat another 6 weeks m looking for cutting cycle...is this combination is good....???
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    Start a new thread bro
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    Ive used test 300 week and tren e at 400 week. Worked great. Vascularity was insane and leaned up really well. If I would have done a longer cycle anything would have been possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harvy87 View Post
    hii,
    i going 2 use a combination of testa pro, deca duroblin, dianabol and arimidex for bulking.i going 2 use this for 6 weeks nd aftr tat another 6 weeks m looking for cutting cycle...is this combination is good....???
    yeah they stack well together but at what dosages? and you really should start a new thread for more answers


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    Dan Duchaine used to say if you can't grow on deca/d-bol you're not training.

    My new FAV. is Test/Tren-e/inj. d-bol- for me its kinda like a lean-Mass builder
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    test 150 eod, deca 400mg per week, dianabol 40 mg eday...

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    4,8,9 are the best in my opinion.

    Its so important to switch your gear after week 8. The body starts adapting and gains become stagnent. Plus these cycles are still intermediate at best. Sounds crazy I know but it's the truth. Estrogen and prolactin blockers need to be In place the whole time and diet of course. The food needs to be big and clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbigz View Post
    4,8,9 are the best in my opinion.

    Its so important to switch your gear after week 8. The body starts adapting and gains become stagnent. Plus these cycles are still intermediate at best. Sounds crazy I know but it's the truth. Estrogen and prolactin blockers need to be In place the whole time and diet of course. The food needs to be big and clean.
    good advice right there, receptors get saturated so ya gott a switch it up now and then


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    ehh, what about when it comes to long acting esters like deca that really don't get the full effect until about week 6 or so

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorian123 View Post
    ehh, what about when it comes to long acting esters like deca that really don't get the full effect until about week 6 or so
    IMO longer esters are different animals altogether. Those must be treated with a different set of boundaries, but with the same basic rules so to speak.....

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    I see what your saying, long esters kinda fall into the whole slow and steady wins the race
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    Quote Originally Posted by dorian123 View Post
    I see what your saying, long esters kinda fall into the whole slow and steady wins the race
    Exactly. I got in a bad spot with Deca once though. Took 3 damn weeks for my dick to work on its own. Its great for the long steady race until it bites ya.....lol
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    Exactly. I got in a bad spot with Deca once though. Took 3 damn weeks for my dick to work on its own. Its great for the long steady race until it bites ya.....lol
    up the test

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorian123 View Post
    up the test
    I did and nothing helped til I ended the deca altogether. Thought it was just the deca, but Tren did the same thing. Even a gram a week of Test didn't help. I added Mast Prop and it helped considerably!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by austin311 View Post
    exactly. I got in a bad spot with deca once though. Took 3 damn weeks for my dick to work on its own. Its great for the long steady race until it bites ya.....lol
    been there exactly like that from exactly that steroid! Sucked balls!
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    Id say some of the best steroid cycles are IM stacked with some solid orals... Many of which can be found at Hardcore Powders - Buy Prohormones ; Add a Kick to your cycle!
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    A lot of these are over 2 grams a week. A lot of guys with limited experiece are going to have problems with side effects. Steroid cycles are thigns that escalate over time. I rarely see this brought up. Th guy who is a year into this sees these cycles thinks theis 2-2.5 gram cycles and figures this is the answer. 6 weeks in he is riddled with side effects. Better to take it slow and work up o these things. Then agai I have average genetics and in my 50s Ic an hold 230 lean at 5'8" on 1/2 a gram of stuff. Some of these cycles reallya re overkill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glycomann View Post
    A lot of these are over 2 grams a week. A lot of guys with limited experiece are going to have problems with side effects. Steroid cycles are thigns that escalate over time. I rarely see this brought up. Th guy who is a year into this sees these cycles thinks theis 2-2.5 gram cycles and figures this is the answer. 6 weeks in he is riddled with side effects. Better to take it slow and work up o these things. Then agai I have average genetics and in my 50s Ic an hold 230 lean at 5'8" on 1/2 a gram of stuff. Some of these cycles reallya re overkill.
    agreed, less is more, slow and steady!


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