Need some advice on first steroid cycle.

[j128]

Hey guys. I'm 27 yrs old. 171 cms, about 68 kgs right now. I have been training for long long time on and off. Its been about 7 yrs I think. Recently tried few Pro-hormones (msten and one other). Did help me gain 4-5 kilos. Its usually hard for me to gain weight, I have low body fat. Thinking of doing my first steroid cycle. Want to gain lean mass steadily. Thinking of doing testosterone phenol propionate+primobolon for 8 weeks and then 4 weeks of test propionate+winstrol. What r ur opinions abt that? Hoping for productive advice and healthy criticism. Thanks in advance.

 

[Presser]

Hey guys. I'm 27 yrs old. 171 cms, about 68 kgs right now. I have been training for long long time on and off. Its been about 7 yrs I think. Recently tried few Pro-hormones (msten and one other). Did help me gain 4-5 kilos. Its usually hard for me to gain weight, I have low body fat. Thinking of doing my first steroid cycle. Want to gain lean mass steadily. Thinking of doing testosterone phenol propionate+primobolon for 8 weeks and then 4 weeks of test propionate+winstrol. What r ur opinions abt that? Hoping for productive advice and healthy criticism. Thanks in advance.

why switch after 8 weeks from phenyl prop to propionate? I would just do the same testosterone the entire cycle

I would use propionate for the 12 weeks along with the primo

If your looking for a solid cycle i always suggest the following:

prop
tren ace
winny
igf-1 lr3

its a killer cycle and low doses for beginners will work just as well!

 

[South4478]

agreed. do not switch up the test. what dosage do you plan on taking. I only ask because 12 weeks of prop with the tren and IFG is a lot of pins! lol.

 

[Powderguy]

Prop and TPP are both good both require frequent injections, switching them will have no greater benefit. I agree to pick one or the other. In addition to that the winny is great at 25mg twice a day or 50mg EOD (every other day) will work fine too. For a first cycle I don't see you liking the pinning as much so pick something where your not injecting as much so you don't get tired of it. An 8 week cycle of prop for me is 3 injections a week of prop alone, if you add primo than its more or you can cut in half by mixing half primo and half prop-as a beginner you should respond well to that along with winny. Winny will dry you out so be warned of the stiff joints.

 

[j128]

why switch after 8 weeks from phenyl prop to propionate? I would just do the same testosterone the entire cycle

I would use propionate for the 12 weeks along with the primo

If your looking for a solid cycle i always suggest the following:

prop
tren ace
winny
igf-1 lr3

its a killer cycle and low doses for beginners will work just as well!

Thanks for taking the time to reply! Can you suggest what dosage are optimal to start the cycle i mentioned? The reason I'm asking is because I have already ordered the TPP and TP, which will last me for about 5 weeks. will order more after a month to continue the cycle.
One more thing, what do you think about adding Dbol tabs in the first 4 weeks with TPP instead of Primo (Primo is heavy on the wallet, so still thinking whether to buy or not). And when should I start taking winstrol tabs?

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agreed. do not switch up the test. what dosage do you plan on taking. I only ask because 12 weeks of prop with the tren and IFG is a lot of pins! lol.

Thanks for the reply! I was planning on taking 100mg of TPP every 3-4 days. Not yet sure about Primo. May be will add Dbol instead of Primo.

 

[j128]

Prop and TPP are both good both require frequent injections, switching them will have no greater benefit. I agree to pick one or the other. In addition to that the winny is great at 25mg twice a day or 50mg EOD (every other day) will work fine too. For a first cycle I don't see you liking the pinning as much so pick something where your not injecting as much so you don't get tired of it. An 8 week cycle of prop for me is 3 injections a week of prop alone, if you add primo than its more or you can cut in half by mixing half primo and half prop-as a beginner you should respond well to that along with winny. Winny will dry you out so be warned of the stiff joints.

Thanks for the tips! Yes, Im not quite sure, how im going to react to injecting, but I'm hoping will get used to it. I'll most probably skip primo for now and go for an oral, may be Dbol. Should I take winstrol from the beginning in your opinion?

 

[Jo_seef]

I would just take test e at 400mg/week with dbol as a kick start. Save the other stuff for later cycles if you chose to continue down this road. You should get good gains. Save the tren and other exotics for a later cycle after gains have stalled.

 

[Presser]

Thanks for taking the time to reply! Can you suggest what dosage are optimal to start the cycle i mentioned? The reason I'm asking is because I have already ordered the TPP and TP, which will last me for about 5 weeks. will order more after a month to continue the cycle.
One more thing, what do you think about adding Dbol tabs in the first 4 weeks with TPP instead of Primo (Primo is heavy on the wallet, so still thinking whether to buy or not). And when should I start taking winstrol tabs?

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Thanks for the reply! I was planning on taking 100mg of TPP every 3-4 days. Not yet sure about Primo. May be will add Dbol instead of Primo.

bad idea bro! RULE #1 always have everything you need for your cycle ready to go before starting it! You have 5 weeks of testosterone and say you'll order more in 4 weeks, well what happens if that falls through ? Then you fucked up your endocrine system for nothing and without any pct meds on hand and not enough test to continue


bad idea man

 

[j128]

bad idea bro! RULE #1 always have everything you need for your cycle ready to go before starting it! You have 5 weeks of testosterone and say you'll order more in 4 weeks, well what happens if that falls through ? Then you fucked up your endocrine system for nothing and without any pct meds on hand and not enough test to continue


bad idea man

I guess u r right. Will order it all together.. Can u plz advice me on dbol? And if I go with the cycle u recommended, how much tren should I take with tpp?

 

[Masher59]

Dbol 30mg morning and evening. If you really like it bump to 50mg. 4 weeks
TPP 100mg/Tren A 50mg EOD If you feel froggy bump Tren A to 75mg EOD. 8 weeks or as long as you can handle it lol.
Keep Aromasin on hand in case you need an inhibitor.
PCT

This is hypothetical of course you should consult someone far smarter than me before sticking needles in yourself.

 

[Presser]

yeah tren ace in my humble opinion needn't be higher than 50mg every other day to see nice gains

 

[Presser]

I guess u r right. Will order it all together.. Can u plz advice me on dbol? And if I go with the cycle u recommended, how much tren should I take with tpp?

smart man! Good to hear your going to get it all before starting the cycle!

 

[Masher59]

yeah tren ace in my humble opinion needn't be higher than 50mg every other day to see nice gains

Agree didn't feel much different at 100 eod besides the sides were waay worse lol. Being his first he should really react well at 50 eod.

 

[j128]

Dbol 30mg morning and evening. If you really like it bump to 50mg. 4 weeks
TPP 100mg/Tren A 50mg EOD If you feel froggy bump Tren A to 75mg EOD. 8 weeks or as long as you can handle it lol.
Keep Aromasin on hand in case you need an inhibitor.
PCT

This is hypothetical of course you should consult someone far smarter than me before sticking needles in yourself.

Thank u!

 

[j128]

Thanks eveyone for helping me out! apprecite it! :thumbsup:

 

[Masher59]

Enjoy the ride!

 

[andyrogers151]

Do I mix tren A with test 400 in the same shot or do I go in my arm with tren and leg with test?

 

[Jo_seef]

Mix

 

[Masher59]

That's only 2cc correct. Mix and pin. only split if it's too much for the site.

 

[andyrogers151]

Whats Best cycle to mix then