16 Week Tren Ace, Cypionate, Primo, Deca, MC igf-1lr3 & Ancillaries

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I've read everything I could find on the subject of cycles over the three months. Foremost on MUSCLE Chemistry. So many insightfull threads on this site and active long term members with solid advice.

I've lost over 140lbs since 8/13/2013.(currently 295lbs) height is 6'4". Went From 415 down to 272lbs and now back up to 295lbs after packing on MUSCLE the reasoning for this Tren Ace & supported AAS cycle to lean out. I would like to lose 2lbs a week over the next 16 weeks.

Tren Ace 150 mg EOD week 1-12
Cypionate 1gram split at 500mg TPW
PRIMO E 1Gram split at 500mg TPW
MC IGF-1LR3 80MCG ED
DECA 600 MG split at 300mg TPW 8-16-week

Ancillaries & cycle support
Liver support 4caps-milkthistle etc
Arimedix .5mg EOD
Daily B12 1,000MCG ED
Super Caradine 2 caps per day
Valium 5mg one hour before bed
Melatonin 30mg before bed
600mg of asprin, morning, midday and bed time
Donate blood every 56 days
Weed as needed

Full blood work every 4weeks
Morning and night blood pressure checks x 3 for average

I am coming off a 10 day fast with drinking only citrus and leafy greens blended with honey. (I wanted to go 14 day fast but got really tired on Thursday)
I've never taken any form if Tren so after reading many Bro's on MC and elsewhere recommended TREN Ace. I pinned this past Thursday, Friday and just now for Tren Ace to ensure I can tolerate it. Of note I enjoyed my 45 minute stair climb today and feel very strong. I am enjoying the Thermo effect at night of the Tren! I might up the Tren Ace to 200mg EOD? One funny note, last night my brain was telling that my heart was beating to hard and too fast at 1030pm. So I proved to my brain I was more than fine by pulling out my Blood Pressure Monitor! 3 x average was 107/72 w/68BPM. I told my brain to STFU. LOL

will advise and thanks again for this excellent resource on MC!
 
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well thats a big ass dosage of tren ace among other high steroid dosages lol, but if you know you tolerate them well , then so be it!

As for your goals, have you spoken with 3J nutrition, either in his free diet nutrition advice forum, or even spoke about hiring him, he can probably take you the next level more than you can on your own, but over all sounds like you have done a pretty good job yourself!
 
Dayum. Definitely let us know on the 200eod. I know one thing, even though it's short ester, for me, changing dose today means I realise full effects or sides up to 2weeks out....in my mind I liken it to steering a huge ship, a course change takes a while to realise. It also has very subtle, yet extreme mental sides, specially on hi dose runs. I spend time every day quietly trying to stay focused and rooted and grounded in normalcy, can't tell you how many guys I know jumped on the tren train and ended up divorced. Or with some other wacky happening in their life.
 
Thanks Presser and thanks again for your site Professor! My diet is under control. My binders are unfortunately not that great? Ive been taking a gram of Test since August with no Arimedix I thought my Test was bad so I used my MD prescribed Test that I am stock piling and no change. I will updated my original post to reflect .5mg EOD of Arimedix
well thats a big ass dosage of tren ace among other high steroid dosages lol, but if you know you tolerate them well , then so be it!

As for your goals, have you spoken with 3J nutrition, either in his free diet nutrition advice forum, or even spoke about hiring him, he can probably take you the next level more than you can on your own, but over all sounds like you have done a pretty good job yourself!
 
When can i expect Tren Ace to take effect? Ive only had slight thermo temp elevations..Yeah Presser and other Broseph's told me to chill and wait tgood analogy on Tren with the Big Ship. I have scared myself out of taking this Tren Cycle many times! Presser and other Brosephs said to reexamine week 3 and think about it again with uppingg dosage... I am hoping precautionary of Valium, weed, B12 and melatonin should help? Also eating numerous caps of well-being vitamins. Plus I have all the sex I am going need. Not trying to sound full of myself, but I have zero stress in my life and am chill in my heart. That being said precautions and advice from members on this site will not be ignored. I am a nOOB on a heavy duty cycle and I am VERY thankful for your advice and others!

God Bless!

Dayum. Definitely let us know on the 200eod. I know one thing, even though it's short ester, for me, changing dose today means I realise full effects or sides up to 2weeks out....in my mind I liken it to steering a huge ship, a course change takes a while to realise. It also has very subtle, yet extreme mental sides, specially on hi dose runs. I spend time every day quietly trying to stay focused and rooted and grounded in normalcy, can't tell you how many guys I know jumped on the tren train and ended up divorced. Or with some other wacky happening in their life.
 
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1st Tren Ace fun... Elevated heart rate/BP WHILE laying on couch. 139/83 85hr. Took two low dose asprins 5 minutes later back to 114/73 78hr.
 
lol, i take 650mg aspirin daily with my 2 daily eca stacks, aspirin is a great blood thinner and helps more than a lot of folks realize
 
Noted and Thank You! Updating my ancillaries in original post. At the gym now and feel very strong.
lol, i take 650mg aspirin daily with my 2 daily eca stacks, aspirin is a great blood thinner and helps more than a lot of folks realize
 
Reduced Super Caradine intake from 3 tablets to 1 tablet today. I believe this was the cause of a resting heart beat of 80 rather than my normal 65. Set up 10 days of Tren needles. Will see how I feel to either up or lower dodage? I feel very alert and calm. No Divorce in a Bottle symptoms as of yet.
 
Reduced Super Caradine intake from 3 tablets to 1 tablet today. I believe this was the cause of a resting heart beat of 80 rather than my normal 65. Set up 10 days of Tren needles. Will see how I feel to either up or lower dodage? I feel very alert and calm. No Divorce in a Bottle symptoms as of yet.

lmao, are you aiming for that "divorce in a bottle" feeling? lmao

I sure hope not brutha!
 
I hope not. Tomorrow is day 7 of Tren at 50mgED. I reduced dosage as some Bro's said to suggest. I pee'd four times last night!// all my water is leaving me. It was also crystal clear leaving me. I am not hungry and feel clear headed. No anger. I pushed 500mg of cypionate and 500mg of Primo a half hour ago. MC IGF-1LR3 already pumping. Hitting the gym now


lmao, are you aiming for that "divorce in a bottle" feeling? lmao

I sure hope not brutha!
 
DAMN YOU MUST BE DRINKING A SHIT TON OF WATER, AS MY PISS IS DARK AS HELL WHEN IM ON TREN ACETATE. SOUNDS LIKE THINGS ARE PROGRESSING WELL THOUGH , SO KUDOS FOR DOING YOUR HOMEWORK AND DOING IT RIGHT!
 
Wow. That means alot coming from you! I got a lot of help from your website. What I like about reading is that it allows me to sift thru reality and not hearsay. The gear users of Tren of 1st hand experience has helped inxredibly with the fear of the unknown. I think the water is from the cells in my body? I've been juicing a gram of cypionate since 8/2015 with no AI so maybe the Tren along with the .5 EOD Arimedix is getting rid of the water.

DAMN YOU MUST BE DRINKING A SHIT TON OF WATER, AS MY PISS IS DARK AS HELL WHEN IM ON TREN ACETATE. SOUNDS LIKE THINGS ARE PROGRESSING WELL THOUGH , SO KUDOS FOR DOING YOUR HOMEWORK AND DOING IT RIGHT!
 
I had assumed from the volumes of web articles and personal BroScience experience that I would have had some clear indication of the Tren showing its head. I thought I was getting the Thermo effect, but maybe I just had a low grade fever? I thought the Tren was responsible for my improved reps/weight but maybe the strength is due to solid training/diet/lots of sleep? I shooting 50mg ED sun is setting on day 7. If I don't feel a distinct Tren related side/instance by this coming Thursday I will dose at 75mg. Feeling annoyed and wish the annoyed feeling was caused by the Tren ( yes this is legit gear- its been tested"
 
I had assumed from the volumes of web articles and personal BroScience experience that I would have had some clear indication of the Tren showing its head. I thought I was getting the Thermo effect, but maybe I just had a low grade fever? I thought the Tren was responsible for my improved reps/weight but maybe the strength is due to solid training/diet/lots of sleep? I shooting 50mg ED sun is setting on day 7. If I don't feel a distinct Tren related side/instance by this coming Thursday I will dose at 75mg. Feeling annoyed and wish the annoyed feeling was caused by the Tren ( yes this is legit gear- its been tested"


im sorry but thats the statement of the year thus far on this site to date! lmao.

Not pissing dark, and not getting any tren like sides from 350mg a week at 50mg daily plus their should be some serious synergy with the amount of testosterone your on, so man I dont know, lol, either your shit is garbage, and i trust you when you say u know its legit, and tested, so if its not the tren being shit, then maybe, just maybe your not human! lmao

I mean have you checked the back yard for impact marks, or the barn outback where your parents hid your space capsule , lol, i just dont know why your not feeling it.

I also will say this and do NOT take it the wrong way.... lol.....But i have spoken to you enough here and through pms and such, to know your more of a skeptic, glass half empty kinda guy lmao, so those sides you think arent from tren probably are, i mean if its legit you should feel it
 
The gear is from my friend and bought the batch and used it before me. I got four 1000mg vials from his batch . After these 6 syrnges are gone I am going to refill at 75mg and keep increasing until I see some sides.. Either my ancillaries are are having a synergistic effect in the Tren sides or I am an alien or my Tren gear is bunk. That 10 day fast would have been for nothing in prep for this cycle. I feel stronger but I train and eat and supplement correctly so I should be getting stronger every session. I am employ a PT on Monday, Wed Friday so I should be getting stronger?. I had an incident today that wouldve caused a Tren user of 350mg EW dosage to kill someone? I go to pick up my little girl from preschool today and it looks like a bear had ripped at her face. Turns out some little fucker had attacked her. Make the situation worse the director of the school was totally trying to minimize the situation etc etc. I was not controlling my emotions conscious ly out of fear of losing it on her. I was my regular self. Seems I should've lost it according to al the 1st hand experience I've read? BTW. Thanks for the compliment on the best so far of 2016 comment! Lol

im sorry but thats the statement of the year thus far on this site to date! lmao.

Not pissing dark, and not getting any tren like sides from 350mg a week at 50mg daily plus their should be some serious synergy with the amount of testosterone your on, so man I dont know, lol, either your shit is garbage, and i trust you when you say u know its legit, and tested, so if its not the tren being shit, then maybe, just maybe your not human! lmao

I mean have you checked the back yard for impact marks, or the barn outback where your parents hid your space capsule , lol, i just dont know why your not feeling it.

I also will say this and do NOT take it the wrong way.... lol.....But i have spoken to you enough here and through pms and such, to know your more of a skeptic, glass half empty kinda guy lmao, so those sides you think arent from tren probably are, i mean if its legit you should feel it
 
Reflecting this morning I do feel more angry and pissed off/ negative which is a bummer. Kinda bummed about the lack of night sweats and other lack of Thermo effects I had hoped to gain from its use.
 
Reduced Dosage of super caradine from 3caps to 2 caps now to 1 Cap. The rapid heart rate and increased BP is not fun! It was causing hightended anxiety. Today is pin day 500mg of Test and 500m of Primo! Primo takes longer to push in I have noticed. Even though the Test has a long ester I always get a nice shazaaam from it!
 
OK. The Tren Ace showed itself over the past 48hrs in agression. This morning I called my credit card company and the guy on the other line became snarky or what perceived as being snarky and I told him to shut his fukin mouth and etc. Libido is off the charts. I have had ZERONIGHT SWEATS and this is a bummer. I did a shitton of cardio today and recovered nicely as well...
 
dude, if I ever go to pick up either one of the twins and one has their face clawed like a bear attack, and i find out another kid did it, and then a school official not only minimizes it but never notified me by phone, i will raise holy fucking hell, and snap!

And when im done dealing with the school officials , i will deal with the other twin, and ask them why they didnt kick the living shit of whomever hit on their twin.

My kids have permission to fight back physically, as long as they did not start the fight in any way form or fashion, they have both mom and dads permission to see that shit through with an ass kicking!

Best thing my dad ever done for me was, watched me get my ass kicked in my own backyard by neighbor kid, i ran in crying and he made me go back outside and fight , and i got my ass kicked again, lol, but i think thats how it should be!
 
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