first cycle

[wutwldjesususe]

im starting my first cycle in a coup;e weeks ...test e only...400mg for 8 weeks...when should i starts hcg and clomid..after my cycle or should i do it during????ive done research but this is always debadable and i love this forum ive learned so much ..especially not to rush into this decision, but im ready...thanks guys

 

[IronJulius]

i would run it 10 weeks as for hcg ive never used it but people opinion vary and clomid start 12-14 days after last injectiion

 

[Mountain_Man]

i would run it 10 weeks as for hcg ive never used it but people opinion vary and clomid start 12-14 days after last injectiion

Agreed and I never use hcg either

 

[Masher59]

Not big on hcg either an like stated above using Test E which is a long ester you should extend the cycle a bit. I would go at least 10 weeks and maybe even 12.

 

[wutwldjesususe]

i would run it 10 weeks as for hcg ive never used it but people opinion vary and clomid start 12-14 days after last injectiion

thanks ...no hcg for this guy...one more question, since its test only(for 10 wks now)taking clomid 12 day after last poke is sufficient enough take keep gains and not have shut down??

 

[mmajake]

You won't keep everything so don't go into it expecting that or you'll be disappointed. If you go about it right you can keep a fair amount though. I like to throw in a natty test booster for the last 2 weeks of cycle and 4 weeks post cycle personal preference is HCgenerate by n2bm. Clomid is good at 50mg a day for 4 weeks. Some like to up it to 100 a few weeks in, it messes with me emotionally too much for that personally. Train 3-4 times a week during PCT your body needs to recover and running it into the ground as if you were on cycle will only hurt that. Don't try cut when you come off your body needs calories during PCT.

 

[wutwldjesususe]

have u eva used elite labs??if so are they good ?? get products in a timely fashion etc?

You won't keep everything so don't go into it expecting that or you'll be disappointed. If you go about it right you can keep a fair amount though. I like to throw in a natty test booster for the last 2 weeks of cycle and 4 weeks post cycle personal preference is HCgenerate by n2bm. Clomid is good at 50mg a day for 4 weeks. Some like to up it to 100 a few weeks in, it messes with me emotionally too much for that personally. Train 3-4 times a week during PCT your body needs to recover and running it into the ground as if you were on cycle will only hurt that. Don't try cut when you come off your body needs calories during PCT.

 

[mmajake]

Never heard of them, sorry dude

 

[Presser]

thanks ...no hcg for this guy...one more question, since its test only(for 10 wks now)taking clomid 12 day after last poke is sufficient enough take keep gains and not have shut down??

we have a sticky thread on when to start clomid after cycles, its in the Bodybuilding articles area of the site, and shows exactly when to start clomid after every steroid possible, so i would go check it out and see what it says for testosterone enanthate, its probably 3 weeks after last injection, but i could be wrong, but im prolly not, but could be, lol, though im not lol

 

[wutwldjesususe]

we have a sticky thread on when to start clomid after cycles, its in the Bodybuilding articles area of the site, and shows exactly when to start clomid after every steroid possible, so i would go check it out and see what it says for testosterone enanthate, its probably 3 weeks after last injection, but i could be wrong, but im prolly not, but could be, lol, though im not lol

lmao...thanks bro...theres so much info on this forum...i joined a while back and been patient instead of jumping right in,but do u have any thought on advanced elite?and iam i allowed to ask that question im still pretty green on this forum,this is the only one ive been on its my first...lol and pretty sure dont need other ones

 

[Presser]

shit its actually 3 weeks you run the clomid and you start it 2 weeks after testosterone enanthate and here is the list break down:


When to start your PCT protocol after ceasing your cycle?

Steroid	When to start after last administration	Length of PCT
Testosterone Enanthate	2 weeks	3 weeks
Testosterone Cypionate	2 weeks	3 weeks
Testosterone Propionate	3 days	3 weeks
Testosterone Suspension	6-8 hours	3 weeks
Sustanon	3 weeks	3 weeks
Winstrol	12 hours	2/3 weeks
Dianabol	6-8 hours	3 weeks
Trenbolone	3 days	4 weeks
Deca durabolan	3 weeks	4 weeks
Primabolan depot	14 days	2 weeks
Anavar	8-10 hours	2 weeks

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[wutwldjesususe]

thanks i was going to start 2 weeks ,so now i no for sure...damn i love this site...you guys are really super helpful...when i start ill keep updates so i can give some info on my first run!

shit its actually 3 weeks you run the clomid and you start it 2 weeks after testosterone enanthate and here is the list break down:


When to start your PCT protocol after ceasing your cycle?

Steroid	When to start after last administration	Length of PCT
Testosterone Enanthate	2 weeks	3 weeks
Testosterone Cypionate	2 weeks	3 weeks
Testosterone Propionate	3 days	3 weeks
Testosterone Suspension	6-8 hours	3 weeks
Sustanon	3 weeks	3 weeks
Winstrol	12 hours	2/3 weeks
Dianabol	6-8 hours	3 weeks
Trenbolone	3 days	4 weeks
Deca durabolan	3 weeks	4 weeks
Primabolan depot	14 days	2 weeks
Anavar	8-10 hours	2 weeks

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[wutwldjesususe]

i will have arimidex on hand ,so should i only take it with sign of gyno or acne,or during cycle from beginning?im still green so i hope these questions aren;t considered dumb...thanks guys

 

[Masher59]

That's a great question and I would wait to see if your nips start getting sore. Some people need an ai with just a little test and others can do a lot before they need an ai.

 

[Presser]

i will have arimidex on hand ,so should i only take it with sign of gyno or acne,or during cycle from beginning?im still green so i hope these questions aren;t considered dumb...thanks guys

arimidex is to prevent estrogen side effects, nolvadex is to combat already present estrogen side effects. Taking arimidex once you start seeing signs of gyno or estrogen side effects is too late. like putting air in your tire that already has a blow out. pointless, too late

Always have nolvadex on hand incase side effects arise!

Nolvadex will compete with the estrogen for the receptor, wheras arimidex will help stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen to begin with

knowing this stuff is important man!

 

[wutwldjesususe]

arimidex is to prevent estrogen side effects, nolvadex is to combat already present estrogen side effects. Taking arimidex once you start seeing signs of gyno or estrogen side effects is too late. like putting air in your tire that already has a blow out. pointless, too late

Always have nolvadex on hand incase side effects arise!

Nolvadex will compete with the estrogen for the receptor, wheras arimidex will help stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen to begin with

knowing this stuff is important man!

I WILL have clomid and arrimidex on hand im just asking if i should take the ai on cycle...but it seems ill have to find out how i react...or just take it so i dont have that problem to begin with...so if i dont take the ai and get side effect take clomid or nolvadex then i know to start taking an ai on cycle...i assumed an ai will not let my estrogen get highenuff to make problems...is that wrong to say...

 

[wutwldjesususe]

I WILL have clomid and arrimidex on hand im just asking if i should take the ai on cycle...but it seems ill have to find out how i react...or just take it so i dont have that problem to begin with...so if i dont take the ai and get side effect take clomid or nolvadex then i know to start taking an ai on cycle...i assumed an ai will not let my estrogen get highenuff to make problems...is that wrong to say...

i think i should take arimidex on cycle to not take any chance...do u agree

 

[IronJulius]

i think i should take arimidex on cycle to not take any chance...do u agree

honestly i would just keep the adex on hand just in case. a little higher estrogen can actually help with strength increase from what ive read and my experience i dont know if its the holding of water or what but i only take it when im getting a little to puffy around the nipples

 

[wutwldjesususe]

honestly i would just keep the adex on hand just in case. a little higher estrogen can actually help with strength increase from what ive read and my experience i dont know if its the holding of water or what but i only take it when im getting a little to puffy around the nipples

im going to ask this again bc alot of people said they never haveused hcg...doing research i keep seeing that using hcg at the end of or even during a cycle is very beneficial..can i get another take on this sub..thanks

 

[Mountain_Man]

That's a great question and I would wait to see if your nips start getting sore. Some people need an ai with just a little test and others can do a lot before they need an ai.

Same here wait till u need it