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pumpseeker
10-04-2002, 10:45 AM
I've got enough test and deca to keep running my current cycle another 2 weeks, which would make it 12 weeks total for my 1st cycle. So far, no side effects but I've gained 20 lbs. I think I'll just keep going but does anyone have a reason I shouldn't? :confused:

skwood
10-04-2002, 10:59 AM
Keep rollin.....

gander
10-04-2002, 11:16 AM
I would go ahead.

WeirdAl
10-04-2002, 11:22 AM
Do you feel like your progress is slowing or stopping?

WeirdAl
10-04-2002, 11:23 AM
And why did you decide to go 10 weeks instead of 12 at the beginning? Do those reasons still hold?

hostile
10-04-2002, 11:31 AM
I would keep going.

And here is why:

I look at it like this. If you are doing any AS that makes you wait three weeks to clomid after last injection. Then on a ten week cycle, you inject AS for 10 weeks, then you wait three weeks to clomid, then you are on clomid for let's say three weeks, then time on should equal time off. So your ten week cycle is actually around 16 weeks through the end of clomid making it around 32 weeks total with time off added in.

If you do a 12 week cycle then the total ends up being a total of 36 weeks. So the debate is between a 32 or 36 week cycle.

You get to stay "on" longer. And you get to stay "off" longer, allowing more time for recovery.

It seems to me that if you are still making gains you should stay on.

Shit, now that I have typed all this, I am wondering if it even makes sense.

Let me throw this in. I am no vet. I am just learning. Does this make sense to anyone else? Or did I just come up with this to justify staying on longer. :D :D

mcinfo
10-04-2002, 11:55 AM
I plan out my year - time on and time off

shoot for a 10-12 week cycle 4 more weeks till Clomid is done and a good 7-8 weeks off.
Thats about 2 cycles a year or 20-24 weeks per yr on the juice
OR
8 weeks on - 4weeks for Clomid to finish w/ 5 -6 weeks off
Here you can get 3 cycle in or 24 weeks per year on

I like longer cycle at lower doses, I seem to hold more gains and have less sides.

gander
10-04-2002, 12:08 PM
hostile ya fuckin lost me there. I consider "time on" to be from first injection UNTIL the first day of Clomid. So in other words on a test/deca 10wk cycle it would really be 13wks, as that is how long the Deca would be in your body. PUMPSEEKER, I don't know if you have thought about this but this is what I did with my Test/Deca cycle. In your case, what I basically did was take my last shot of Deca on week 11 and then just Test on week 12. That way everything would leave your system at the same time.

MacGyver
10-04-2002, 02:07 PM
If you are still making gains then go. I find after three months, I've made all the gains I can.

pumpseeker
10-04-2002, 02:49 PM
My weight gains have plateaued but I am stronger than ever and still making strength gains. I chose 10 weeks originally based on advice from my bros. But, with enough gear to go 12, I figured why waste it?...Another 2 weeks would be nice...especially since I've seen no sides...yet. (I'm not looking forward to going "off" and losing part of the gains :( .)

Gander's idea about going 1 week longer with the test makes sense. I may do just that. And then hit the clomid.

pumpseeker
10-04-2002, 02:51 PM
BTW, I've got 20,000 IUs of HCG to use in there post-cycle. (That should get the natural test back up, among other things :D) plus I'm taking nolv, liq, and have enough clomid to run a full 3 weeks so I should be fine.

jshoty
10-04-2002, 03:04 PM
why waste that little bit of gear you got left, go ahead and inject it

viper10139
10-05-2002, 11:19 AM
if u have the gear...use it...unless you want to save it for next cycle...bro..depending on if u are going to use the same stuff...but it seems like u are making really good gains, keep us updated!!

mailboxkillR
10-05-2002, 11:33 AM
Keep rollin rolllin rolllllin bro.

Gear101*
10-05-2002, 12:34 PM
12 is alot better than 10 but over 14 you'll start to see sides really kick in... IMHO

hostile
10-06-2002, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by gander
hostile ya fuckin lost me there. I consider "time on" to be from first injection UNTIL the first day of Clomid. So in other words on a test/deca 10wk cycle it would really be 13wks, as that is how long the Deca would be in your body. PUMPSEEKER, I don't know if you have thought about this but this is what I did with my Test/Deca cycle. In your case, what I basically did was take my last shot of Deca on week 11 and then just Test on week 12. That way everything would leave your system at the same time.


I have always been told to calculate "time on" from the first injection until the LAST day of clomid. HMMM. I could be wrong though. I don't think there is a hard and fast rule on that one. That is just the way I was advised to do it.

johnnyboy845
10-06-2002, 01:23 AM
if you stop making gains then stop but if gains keep coming keep injecting.. my last cycle was 15 weeks and made good gains almost until the end so now I figure no cycle of mine is worth going past 14 weeks unless I up the dose of AS at the end which dosent make sense to me. I want to save the higher doses for later cycles

LaMastaKilla
10-06-2002, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by hostile



I have always been told to calculate "time on" from the first injection until the LAST day of clomid. HMMM. I could be wrong though. I don't think there is a hard and fast rule on that one. That is just the way I was advised to do it.

i was too, in other words don't start counting time off until clomid therapy is finsihed

and run the extra 2 wks if ya got the gear