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hostile
10-04-2002, 05:55 PM
Ok. Here is the deal. I have been doing this:
Ttokkyo tes enanthate 200/600 ew
Ttokkyo eq/ 400 ew
Organon deca/ 400 ew
dbol 35 ed

I am in week five and getting terrible gains. this is the most I have ever done and it sucks. The tes must be real because my jewels are now raisins, and my sex drive is up. But it just sucks. I know my body and this stuff just sucks.

I need to do some damage control. I am in week five. I need to change up my cycle.

I am thinking of dropping the tes e and replacing it with some omnadren I have at 750 ew, and dropping the deca and starting fina in about two weeks. How long should I wait to start the fina after dropping the deca?

And I have some suspension, but I don't know what strength it is. I got it a while back. I need to use it before it expires.

As you can see, I have a lot of problems with this cycle. I think I have some bad gear. But I am not sure which gear is bad. I think the tes e is either bad, under dosed, or mislabeled.

If any vets want to offer to help me replan the last half of this cycle please email me at hostile@ziplip.com and I will tell you exactly how much of everything I have.

I usually give myself months to plan a cycle but I need to fix this by monday since that is my next injection. I do not want to continue with the tes e and I do not want to get off track.

Thanks for help.

And BTW. Yes, I have all my anti e's, clomid, liquidex, etc.

I posted this at fb too.

superman1975
10-04-2002, 06:16 PM
how bad can the gains be? are you eating enough?

hostile
10-04-2002, 06:36 PM
I am up 6 pounds in five weeks. That sucks. My last cycle was sus/deca at 500/400 and I had tremendous gains.

And, I took plenty of time off to let my body recover. Clomid, etc..

I am doing way more AS this time. WAY MORE!! Also, I have been getting emails from people for the past couple days that are using the same ttokkyo tes e from the same source and they are having the same poor results.

I guess I will just replace it with the omnadren.

It just pisses me off. I did a lot of research and planned this cycle out for months. What a dissappointment.

And yes, I am eating enough. Plenty of Creatine, glutamine, ala, milk thistle, protien, multi vitamins, rest, etc...

This is actually my fourth cycle. But, I have only done two after research, so I only count two. The point is, I know my body and something is not right with this cycle. I am thinking it is underdosed or something.

Also, I have some fina ready to go. But, I was thinking of waiting on the fina until the next cycle. Now I am thinking of throwing it in at the end of this one.

More input please.

Hostile

hostile
10-04-2002, 07:10 PM
CE. My cycle was planned for twelve weeks. And then if staying with deca/eq, I would have to wait three weeks to clomid. I was thinking about rearranging to add in the fina and be able to start clomid immediately after fina. I just don't know if I am really ready for the fina yet. Or maybe that is just in my head. I have been researching on here for a long time. (well over a year).

Thanks for the input. Your advice is actually exactly what I was kinda planning, but I am still thinking about it.

Thanks.

MacGyver
10-05-2002, 08:48 AM
Both Deca and EQ are very similar in that they are highly anabolic with a moderate androgenic effect and they create a more positve nitrogen balance. Deca can cause more water retention than EQ but for the most part they have the same results. So there is really no need to do both in a cycle.
It could very well be that there is problems with your gear. But you have failed to mention what your diet is like. Juice only works as good as eat, train and rest and then eat more.
If you are planing on dropping the Deca and adding fina, I agree that 2 weeks should be good. You could go 3 if you want to play it more safe.