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shiko24

shiko24

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12 week bulk 12 week bridge 12 week bulk

(1st 12wks)

dbol 40mg ed wks 1-4
wks 1-12 test E 600mg per week
wks 1-12 EQ 400mg per week
wks 7-12 Fina h 75mg ed
nolva - on hand
l-dex - through out
clomid - post

(bribge 12 wks)

clen 2wks on 2wks off
Anavar 30mg ed wks 1-12

(2nd 12 wks)
wk 1 100mg test prop ed 700mg total
wk 2 500mg test prop 200mg test E 700mg total
wk 3 300mg test prop 400mg test E 700mg total
wk 4 100mg test prop 600mg test E 700mg total
wk 5-12 600mg test E
wks 1-12 EQ 400mg per week
wks 7-12 Fina h 75mg ed
nolva - on hand
l-dex - through out
clomid - post

I am going to try to keep a 5000 cal diet during each bulk and supplement with every thing what do you guys think these will be
my 3rd and 4th cycle and will cost a pretty penny please let me know what you think I want to compete after this (well after I cut down) but I want to hit 240lbs and be between 225-230 when I go on stage please help ! thanks guys
 
looks pretty good i would say, maybe up the eq to 600mg a week, ive noticed better results with it higher than 400mg
 
I don't like your anavar bridge. 30mg is more than enough to keep you suppressed. Either do dbol at 10mg in the AM or stay on a low dose (like 400mg of test or test/var combo). This won't let you recover either but you won't be subjecting your body to high doses of roids the entire time either (if that was the point of the bridge to begin with).
 
Jshoty, what if I do 400mg Eq the first 12 then up it to 600 the next 12 ?

LA, the Anavar is to keep my strenght up throught the off time to keep most of my gains as for the test I do not want to be on test for 9 months and are you saying go with 10mg dbol for 12 weeks? and when you say morethan enough to keep me suppressed by this you mean what?

any one else ?>
 
That's the exact cycle I will be doing (just 12 weeks). Do some more research on your Anavar doasge. I've tried the d-bol bridge and am not a big fan of it. Remember that the fina is out of your system within days and you still have the EQ and Test running for about 2-3 weeks more after the fina stops. Maybe want to shorten the Test and EQ to 10 weeks??
 
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SC, I red the profile for anavar it said nothing about affecting your natural test or am I wrong ?

Viper, thanks this is just a rough draft so far

MacGyver,let me know how you cycle goes pm me if you can and running th test and EQ shorter is an potion can you tell me more about your bridge and do you think I shoud lower or bump up the Anavar dose?

thanks to all please keep'em coming
 
Gear,

can you tell me why? I would like to know why not just drop this add that no flame just want to know the logic behind it

My thought was to kick start both cycles really good thats all
 
personally

...i like the prop in the begining bro, and overall it looks very nice to me, but i agree with MacGyver about the test and EQ...good luck tho...
 
can someone help me with the bridge like pros and cons on doing it or not or what you think might be a better one or better dose?

sully, thanks bro it looks kinda 50/50 like dislike so far and I think I may up the EQ
 
LA, the Anavar is to keep my strenght up throught the off time to keep most of my gains as for the test I do not want to be on test for 9 months and are you saying go with 10mg dbol for 12 weeks? and when you say morethan enough to keep me suppressed by this you mean what?
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Anavar at 30mg ed will stop your natural test levels from restoring. There will be no recovery of your HPTA. IMHO, anavar even at 10mg will keep you suppressed due to it's 9 hour half-life.

If you are not concerned with recovery, then stay on. If you are concerned about being on a high dose of AS for so long then decrease your dose, use some HCG to bring ball size back. In either case you will not recovery natural test levels.

If you are concerned about recovery then you can either come off completely or use dbol at 10mg in the AM only. With the dbol recovery will come but slower. You could also look into other items to help keep your strength/size during a bridge. Slin is one. Research first. Slin in the hands of the uneducated can kill (yes this is meant to scare anyone without slin experience who is reading this). Also depending on your age, you can look into GH. I personally consider this a waste for anyone under 30 or for anyone under 30 who has not reached considerable size. Also between the above 2 choices- slin is cheap, GH is expensive.

Good Luck- LA
 
LA,
I don't mean to sound like an ass but I read the drug profile in 3 diffrent places and all of them said that anavar does not effect you natural test levels now are they (the profiles) or you wrong?
the profile seems to say that the drug does just what I am looking for I am not argueing with you just want to know where you are coming from with you info! can you please explain?
 
it will affect it. if used at 10-20 mg all in the am, you might recover 80-85%, but you'll never fully recover.
 
LA,I don't mean to sound like an ass but I read the drug profile in 3 diffrent places and all of them said that anavar does not effect you natural test levels now are they (the profiles) or you wrong?
the profile seems to say that the drug does just what I am looking for I am not argueing with you just want to know where you are coming from with you info! can you please explain?
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I'm going to have to go against the profiles here (and no you don't sound like an ass, but maybe I will). Anavar has a half-life of about 9 hours, thus at 30mg you will have too much of it in your system and your natural test levels will not recover.

I did a quick search on this board and posted the 1st pertain link I could find: http://board1.mantisforums.com/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9825&highlight=anavar
You can search more or do some searches on other boards. Sorry, I wish it didn't shut you down either (or in your case keep you shutdown).

Again, Good Luck and please post back on the direction you are going to head- LA
 
CJ and LA are right on IMO. The reason suppression is not prominently mentioned in the drug profiles is because of the low androgenic effects of anavar relative to other AAS. It's low but not zero.
 
LA, thank you for going the extra mile for me I would rather hear why than just because so what about loseing the bridge and adding it to the second cycle ? or could I lower the does to say 10-15mg what do you think?!

Decadent,thanks for your imput !
 
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