This concerns me....

jaywooly

jaywooly

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I take xenidrine, my fair dose of gear (15 weeks long) with 4 weeks of 35 mg d-bol, I drink 2-3 times a week with 1-2 times being heavy (8+ drinks), I have a pleather of painkillers that I take at work (lortabs, methadone, somas etc.) - kinda helps the time go by, and that's about it. I fear for my liver at times, as I'm sure I should.

Are nolvadex and clomid bad on the liver?

Perhaps I should cut out the drinking or the painkillers. It's a tough choice. I just might not restock the pkillers when they run out, I better start weening.....:confused:
 
Are you taking any liver protectants?

You shouldn't be drinking while on.. Atleast not like you are.. An occasional beer is fine.. but you, my friend are over taxing your liver. Get off the painkillers.. Drugs such as these should only be used if and when they are truely need.. Not to "Just pass the time"
 
Yes indeed, I agree. I followed the wrong path, and it just kept winding and winding around. Agreed. I will kick the pkillers and just drink socially. Liver Protectants? I can research those on here, eh?
 
Cut the drinking down. Save it for special occasions. And I don't mean when The Simpson's come on TV. Slowly lean off the pain killers.
 
dedprez* said:
dont take any liver transplants from him!!
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whats left to transplant? Seriously Jaywooly, I hope you start taking care of yourself. You don't want to ruin your liver or anything else. I had a friend who just died from drinking his liver to shit. He got his trans, but died from complications during the surgery. His body just didn't have enough left to handle it. Please take a serious look at what you're putting into yourself.
 
Man Badgermoon, it's like scared strait. My boy's mom just died from serosus (spelling?). Damn, that was my fear all along. I guess I was looking for you guys to say something like "oh, that's not that bad - I've done..." Not gonna happen. Jeez, thanks though for all the advice - everyone.
 
i was in the same boat as you dude. every cycle ive been on alsways drank (sometimes 7days a week) vicodin, percs, crystal meth, (better than eca). i did not do gobs of dosages, i just never had any injury and couldn't get motivated to do shit, (play w/kids, go to work, or just hange out). started taking t3 while trying to loose some fat from the last cycle back in the summer, and felt much better, didn't feel like i needed those drugs to get motivated. i don't take anything now unless i'm hurting, and cut way the hell back on drinking, and feel much better. i think i got use to that up and down high, and it was killing me. even though i do feel better, i would still like to find something to keep my moods and energy elevated throughou the day, but will not resosrt to going back to pain killers and alcahol. i did always make good gain while on and drinking, and so far have no problems other than this damn neck and back. you guys are sick of hereing that arn't you! lol
 
don't drink while on bro....and throw in some ala or milk thistle..
 
holy crap bro!!!! I am suprised you haven't had liver or renal damage yet. Seriously you should take better care of yourself.
-TAZ
 
Well custombikes made me feel a little better. I've devised a plan to try and get healthy. I will completely stop drinking while on cycle and a little after. I will gradually decrease the amount of painkillers, and continue with my xenedrine. I'm currently looking into the liver protectants. By the time I'm off cycle I should be completely weened off the pkillers. Then I can start drinking again in moderation. The key is moderation. Can anyone throw down some coments on the liver protectants from experience?
 
Ripedchef, how is it wasted? I train 5 days a week, maintain a great diet, do the right gear - how is it wasted? It doesn't effect me when I work out at all. It used to, I was always unmotivated - but now it has no bearing on the way I train. I can understand the alcohol perhaps for the calories, but wasted?
 
You must have something I don't-if I had 8 drinks then had to train the next day that workout would suck-along with the partying comes lousy sleeping patterns, incomplete recovery and usually other drugs-weed will decrease efficency of oxygen transport and sometimes make you eat crap-other drugs can decrease efficency of CNS-maybe wasted was too strong of a term-perhaps I should say "Not getting the most out of your training/gear "-if you are REALLY serious about your training,drugs and alchohol should NOT be in your program-just my opinion
 
I have to agree with Rippedchef on this one. Look at all the hard work and effort you are putting into this, and cheating yourself out of the benefits you should be enjoying. Just think about it. OK sermon over, take care jaywooly.
 
Agreed. Didn't mean to be so defensive, but "wasted" was not what I was willing to accept. Yes, I'm not getting the full potential - but my sleep is cool, and I listed all the other junk I did, nothing else (weed, coke, CM, etc.). Got great advice and I'm 'bout to get that ALA and Milk Thistle and cut out the sh!t. Cutting in February or March and will be completely clean. Thanks again everyone.
 
stay clean bro-you'll be glad you did-I used training to get sober(10 years)-I trained so hard I was literally exhausted at the end of a workday-hell it was all I could do to drag my ass into bed!!-Yea I was overtraining but it sure helped me get clean and trying to train with a hangover will sure keep you clean-that is pure misery!!-Good Luck-keep us posted on your progress!!
 
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