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superman1975

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yo bro--being that you did your first cycle at 17 how did your body react--any extra acne--give me some insight--like what the cycle was and what your gains were

i have a 19yr old friend--an ex's little brother who i have kept in touch with over the yrs---and he wants to gear up for the first time---but i am always leary on giving advice to people so young on using steroids---and he said if i helped him he would send me a couple of 18 yr old sluts---LOL

some advice from the vets would be great--because i cant be the only guy that has been asked this by a younger guy
 
good question, I would be kind of leary as well....but then again, I did my first one when I was 20....and now I am 21....and on my 4th one....trying to get big as ever.....
 
I would say all depends on teh person...most people at 19 aren't still growing or anything...I say 19 is alright...then again I used at 20 as well.
 
bro actually i started reading up on jucie 2 years ago. i did my first cycle at the age of 16. it was such a stupid cycle i thought i was gonna get big og one vial of brovel deca and four hits of sustatnon. well i didnt see any results. then after that. about 2months ago i finished my killer cycle it got me results that my eyes didn't believe thanx to god. well researched like a lab rat for a full fucking year to start again my cycle was bulk/cut here is whati did

1-4 40mgdbol
1-10 600mgEQ
6-10 50mgWinnyEOD
1-10 50mgFinaEod
1-10 50-100mgProp

i gained about 10pounds from that cycle but overall i lost a shit load of bf%. so i think i added any where from 15-20lbs of muslce.
 
If i could go back in time this is what i would start off with. and that is what i reccommend for that guy. Also tell him not to just depend on your knowledge do research on his time too.

Week
1-12 300mgPrimo/Week
1-12 500mgEnan/Week
1-12 400mgDeca/Week
7-12 50mgWinny/Week


The gains on this cycle shall be very solid and permanent.
 
Madchemist. I was wondering, have you grown any taller since you started doing juice? Just wondering because I've read that it causes the epipheseal (sp?) ends of the bones to stop growing. Have you noticed that, or had any joint problems?
 
That is a touchy subject, as I have talked with many of my younger brothers friends that are always asking questions. Althought I say wait alittle while, if he is still going to do it. Which he probably will, with or without your help. I would offer a few thoughts. Get the dieting aspect down first and for most. A good month so he can control himself on food and not screw off. Make sure his workout technique and form are on point. Then as far as chemicals I would have to say stay with something mild at first like anavar and primobolan. If done right your going to change your body for the better, especially the first time. So I don't think that there is this need to use alot of shit or over do it. Good Luck
 
hey Madchemist, U are a fucking druggie..........
Damn 16 years old..... wtf,,,,, why u look so small man......
lol......

Just messing with u , everyone is different i guess, i got big
naturally, started at 147, got all the way up to 235 naturally...
in a year in a half........ not all muscle but, i changed my body completely...... i was around 16-17 b-fat, from about 7% when i started, but still, i gained a whole lot of mass, and built my foundation, if u saw my pics u will know what i mean....
 
bigpump9 said:
hey Madchemist, U are a fucking druggie..........
Damn 16 years old..... wtf,,,,, why u look so small man......
lol......

Just messing with u , everyone is different i guess, i got big
naturally, started at 147, got all the way up to 235 naturally...
in a year in a half........ not all muscle but, i changed my body completely...... i was around 16-17 b-fat, from about 7% when i started, but still, i gained a whole lot of mass, and built my foundation, if u saw my pics u will know what i mean....
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LMAO
yeah bro i am druggie and i am not that proud of it. i will take it easy after the competition. i will just try to maintain after that competition in june with Primo
 
Badgermoon said:
Madchemist. I was wondering, have you grown any taller since you started doing juice? Just wondering because I've read that it causes the epipheseal (sp?) ends of the bones to stop growing. Have you noticed that, or had any joint problems?
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i stoped growing at age of 13. i have been 6.1" and i am happy with my hieght.
 
im 20 and im about to start a huge cycle of:

12 amps of TEST. ENANTHATE, 12 vials of DECA-DURABOLIN,250 tabs of D-BOL, 30 tabs of CLOMID, 2*HCG 5000 i.u. & 60 tabs of NOLVADEX 20mg
 
dog i am flaming or putting u down what u got is very little.
u need 8more amps of deca & test. so u could do two amps per week. by the way how many mgs is it per amp.
 
deltachistud said:
im 20 and im about to start a huge cycle of:

12 amps of TEST. ENANTHATE, 12 vials of DECA-DURABOLIN,250 tabs of D-BOL, 30 tabs of CLOMID, 2*HCG 5000 i.u. & 60 tabs of NOLVADEX 20mg
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how is that huge? thats 500mg of test for 12 wks, 200mg of deca for 12 wks, 40mg of dbol for 6 wks---you need more clomid and nolvadex
 
500 test enan is enough for the first round
need more deca

take another look at your anti's ( you may need more)
 
At 18 he's has a good amount of Test in his body.
You would be better off teaching him how to Eat, Supplement and train.
18,19 even early 20's you can pack on great mass if you know what your doing. Tell him to hold of a few years - He'll thank you
Gear is not magic - If you don't know how to EAT, Supplement and train its not much good.
 
CCapel said:
At 18 he's has a good amount of Test in his body.
You would be better off teaching him how to Eat, Supplement and train.
18,19 even early 20's you can pack on great mass if you know what your doing. Tell him to hold of a few years - He'll thank you
Gear is not magic - If you don't know how to EAT, Supplement and train its not much good.
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i agree 100%
 
I have a friend from the gym that is 19 and did his first cycle at 18. He did 6 weeks of abomb/anavar combo pills and Prop 100 (eod). He broke out like you would not believe. He still hasn't recovered from it. He wants to do another cycle and has been asking me for advice. I will probably give it to him as I don't want to see him throw away his money. Right now I'm trying to pressure him to see a doctor to get the acne under control and will probably direct him twords something that will keep his test levels at an even level and steer him away from the abombs and dbol.
 
skwood said:
I have a friend from the gym that is 19 and did his first cycle at 18. He did 6 weeks of abomb/anavar combo pills and Prop 100 (eod). He broke out like you would not believe. He still hasn't recovered from it. He wants to do another cycle and has been asking me for advice. I will probably give it to him as I don't want to see him throw away his money. Right now I'm trying to pressure him to see a doctor to get the acne under control and will probably direct him twords something that will keep his test levels at an even level and steer him away from the abombs and dbol.
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here is how one can control their acne!!!
take 40mgaccutane for the first week of the cycle and the acne will be eliminated almost 50percent.
 
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