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jshoty
12-09-2002, 02:31 PM
i got ratted on lastweek by a close family member, and the cops paid a little visit to my house. Anyways to make a long story short they basically seized 5 bottles of test, and a couple bottles of eq. I didnt get arrested though, and believe it or not they didnt search my vehicle, which i had managed to stash a few extra's acouple days before. So basically im waiting for the cops to send the seized gear into a lab to have it tested. Then they will probally go about charging me with whatever fuckedup shit they can. I dont currently have a record so im hoping ill just have to pay a fine, and maybe do some community service or something. Anyways if anyone has had similar shit happen to them, could they please PM me so we could talk privately. thx

LA
12-09-2002, 02:41 PM
They have a warrent?

jshoty
12-09-2002, 02:58 PM
nope, i was living with relatives, cause im on break from school

LA
12-09-2002, 03:05 PM
So how did they get permission to come in and "look" around?

bjtheman
12-09-2002, 03:19 PM
That suks azz bro! BS on whoever ratted you out!

jshoty
12-09-2002, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by LA
So how did they get permission to come in and "look" around?

my family wich i was staying with at the time, called them

mcinfo
12-09-2002, 03:49 PM
Good luck

skwood
12-09-2002, 04:27 PM
Sorry to hear that. Good luck.

gymrat
12-09-2002, 04:31 PM
damn that's fucked up. Why would a relative do that. Do they know the legal troubles this can get you. That is just wrong.

jshoty
12-09-2002, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Presser


what kind of family was it? grandparent aunt uncles? wont ur real parents be pissed the fuck off at these reletives, sorry so many questions, it just sounds weird to me

my parents bro

jshoty
12-09-2002, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by gymrat
damn that's fucked up. Why would a relative do that. Do they know the legal troubles this can get you. That is just wrong.


well my parents ratted me out pretty good, and this was after i came clean about my aas use with them. Why they did it i have no fucking clue. they told me it was for my own benefit lol!!!

jshoty
12-09-2002, 04:36 PM
it fucking sucks to know you cant even trust your own parents.

jshoty
12-09-2002, 04:40 PM
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basskiller
12-09-2002, 04:43 PM
Do you pay them any rent? was it in your room
IF so the search is no good..

jshoty
12-09-2002, 04:45 PM
i pay rent when i got the cash, and yes it was in my room

basskiller
12-09-2002, 04:50 PM
Then then your parents have no right to tell them to search that part of the house.. That room and everything in it is under your control and no one elses.. Peroid.. Your parents and you entered into a binding renter/rentee relationship.. Which means that they no longer have the authority to allow searches of the rented room..

It's the same as an apartment complex alowing the cops the right to search your apt.. Although I'm sure that your agreement was a verbal one.. It's still
binding.

jshoty
12-09-2002, 04:51 PM
talk to you guys later, im off to go workout, then find a place to sleep for the night lol

basskiller
12-09-2002, 04:52 PM
If it comes to it.. tell your lawyer this

basskiller
12-09-2002, 05:02 PM
Damn and I thought my worthless father was no good for just not being there..
I'm now thinking.. I'm glad he wasn't

46and2aheadofme
12-09-2002, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by basskiller
Then then your parents have no right to tell them to search that part of the house.. That room and everything in it is under your control and no one elses.. Peroid.. Your parents and you entered into a binding renter/rentee relationship.. Which means that they no longer have the authority to allow searches of the rented room..

It's the same as an apartment complex alowing the cops the right to search your apt.. Although I'm sure that your agreement was a verbal one.. It's still
binding.

This is exactly what I was about to write. As long as you pay some kind of rent or provide some sort of consideration in return for permission to live there, your room is your domain under the lessor/lessee relationship and without a warrant to search your room specifically OR your express consent, they cannot search it. Your parents cannot consent to a search of what is essentially your property. This seems like a clear case of illegal search and seizure, although I'll ask my crim law prof and make sure.

dedprez*
12-09-2002, 06:15 PM
basskiller and 46and2 are correct.....my aunt and uncle pulled this crap on me when i used to live with them a while ago and the cops waited there until i came home and asked if they could look in my room and i said fuck no!! so...in about 1 hr of time they came back with a warrant but never found anything....fuckin relatives....needless to say i decided it was time to move out and live on my own at the age of 16.

dedprez*
12-09-2002, 06:16 PM
also....if the house is considered your parents and they give permission to search..then in all reality that AS that they found also belongs to them!

basskiller
12-09-2002, 06:26 PM
Yup Prez.. they can't have it both ways.. it's either an illegal search or it's the property of the parents..

blacktail
12-09-2002, 07:06 PM
that is bull shit bro! hope everything goes well for you! i would hate to see another good bro get FUCKED!!!

TAZ
12-09-2002, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Presser
i cant believe a family would call the police on their cjild for having steroids on him,lol

unreal, then again my dad sued me in court beofre so nothing realy surprises me anymore,lol

My parents tried that shit on me with recreational drugs when I was 17. Threw me into a locked detox unit for 28days of glorious mind fucking after they didn't find anything. I promptly moved out not soon after that. They said the same shit.... "We are just doing this for your own good"..... Yeah right.

-TAZ

winneevee
12-09-2002, 07:30 PM
Payback or backpay is a bitch... say it isnt yours and that its theirs, after all,it was in their house....

poopoo
12-09-2002, 07:35 PM
God damm... that's terrible. And I thought my folks were bad... Just goes to proove how f@$#$% up some of the laws are... They'll try to make a criminal out of someone that is just trying to improve his own body, but they approve tobacco, booze and guns.

deltachistud
12-09-2002, 07:40 PM
thats shitty, i wish all the luck!!!

jaywooly
12-09-2002, 07:52 PM
You should be okay. The guys on the board here sound like they know what they're talking about. You should see a lawyer though if you do end up in some mess. You'll end up with a slap on the wrist. I wish you the best, good luck.

mr456
12-09-2002, 07:58 PM
Sorry to hear you bad misfortune bro. I hope everything gets worked out. I am not a lawyer but alot of the things that have been said in this thread sound pretty much on the money.
I would tell your parents THEIR options...either it was theirs(AAS)...or it was an illegal search....legally you could be entitled to sue both the police AND your parents for........456

peterhead
12-09-2002, 09:29 PM
damn bro sorry to hear that,

With family like that you dont need enemies.

Badgermoon
12-10-2002, 12:09 AM
Yikes, I would never have done that to my kids. I would have had something to say to them if I thought they were messing up, certainly, but I always thought it best to talk to them rather than have an outsider deal with what I see as a problem I should take care of as their father. They still think I'm a lousey father, but at least I have a clear concience about that.
Good luck Bro, hope it turns out ok for you.

92StangMan
12-10-2002, 12:09 AM
Why the hell didn't they confront you about it and say if you're going to use that shit, get out of their house? If my parents said that, I'd have a hell of a lot more respect for them than if they called the cops to have me arrested.

That's fucked up, bro. I would say fuck them back harder, but then again, it's your parents we're talking about. It's your decision.

92StangMan
12-10-2002, 12:11 AM
Also my major is Criminal Justice and they CANNNOT barge into a house looking for drugs. They MUST have a warrent and only then can they look for AAS. The only way a cop can enter a house without a warrent is if someone is screaming or getting killed.

footballcat
12-10-2002, 12:32 AM
Man that sucks. Sorry to hear that. Are you going to move out.

hostile
12-10-2002, 01:42 AM
Man, that is absolutely crazy. If your parents won't back you..........

And Presser, your own father sued you? WTF?

I would NEVER do anything to hurt my kids. I don't give a shit what they do.

boking
12-10-2002, 04:18 AM
hope all works out bro. that fucking sux man, i wouldnt know what to do

mbstrong
12-10-2002, 09:42 AM
Sorry to hear this news jshorty. I hope you get everything figured out and everybody is right about the warrant. The only way that they can get away with it is if you parents say that you don't pay rent. Then that would be even more F%%&&& up.

You got mail!!!!

slappy
12-10-2002, 11:44 AM
your probally going to get a 3rd degree posession charge, im going through the same shit now, id be pretty pissed off if my one family dimed me out.

LA
12-10-2002, 12:44 PM
I'm willing to bet that you never hear anything about this from the cops ever! Right now the officers who took your goods are replanning their winter cycles.

46and2aheadofme
12-10-2002, 03:36 PM
Here's what my crim law prof had to say:

"This is a gray area and depends on whether P manifested an expectation of privacy. Looking for things like locked door to the bedroom, does not grant access to parents, pays rent, separate entrance, etc. If P is more like a tenant than a relation, cops on shaky ground regarding consent. So you're right...if the relationship is like lessor/lessee."

So the answer is, as always in law, "maybe, it depends on how good your lawyer is." LOL
Let's see what your state has to say about it.
PM me and tell me what state you're in, and I'll look for past cases setting precedent. For instance, the following decision is from a Hawaii case in 2001, so it looks like in HA you'd have a good chance of winning:

Defendant was convicted in the Second Circuit Court, Artemio C. Baxa, J., of assault in the second degree, carrying or use of a firearm in the commission of a separate felony, place to keep firearm, prohibited possession of a firearm, and possession of a prohibited firearm, after sawed-off shotgun was found in defendant's locked bedroom at his mother's house. Defendant appealed. The Intermediate Court of Appeals, Lim, J., held that: (1) defendant had reasonable expectation of privacy in bedroom; (2) mother had actual authority to consent to search of common areas of house; (3) mother did not have actual authority to consent to search of defendant's locked bedroom; (4) exigent circumstances did not exist to justify search; (5) erroneous admission of sawed-off shotgun was not harmless error; and (6) evidence was insufficient to support conviction of possession of a prohibited firearm.
Reversed in part, judgment vacated and remanded in part. State v. Vinuya, 32 P.3d 116 (HA 2001).

hostile
12-10-2002, 06:15 PM
Damn 46. Good job. Very interesting info.

deathrow
12-10-2002, 09:11 PM
Sorry to hear all this bro. I don't know what kind of a parent would call a cops on their own kid..Its very odd and fucked up thing to do. If you do move out, you better prepare for serious life. Are you gonna live alone, or with a roomate ..maybe your gf..just get married or something..It will help you out..maybe...
Everyone's in some kind of shit..these days..its not just you..all of us have some kind of problems..

woody01
12-10-2002, 09:12 PM
dammit!that sucks dude.man i feel bad for u bro.good luck w/ everything.drop me a note when u get off work.

jshoty
12-11-2002, 05:22 PM
well, i havent been charged with anything as of yet, i talked to my parents and i think everything is gonna work out alright. They agreed when i talked to them that if i go see a doctor and get my blood tests and liver tests done, that i could continue using AAS. the last few days have been really shitty for me and i fucking havent slept but a few hours the whole weekend. Thx for the support guys, it means alot.

skwood
12-11-2002, 05:52 PM
Good to hear, I hope it works out ok.

rexxer
12-11-2002, 07:00 PM
WTF happened to the time when parents sat down and had a straight up heart to heart talk,,,,,thats how I was brought up and thats what I practise with my teens now! Sorry to hear of your pending troubles,hope it works out.

Skarn
12-11-2002, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by jshoty
well, i havent been charged with anything as of yet, i talked to my parents and i think everything is gonna work out alright. They agreed when i talked to them that if i go see a doctor and get my blood tests and liver tests done, that i could continue using AAS. the last few days have been really shitty for me and i fucking havent slept but a few hours the whole weekend. Thx for the support guys, it means alot.


Huh? Your parents agreed to let you continue using AAS? The same parents that called the cops on you? Something doesn't sound right here...

Badgermoon
12-12-2002, 01:11 AM
LMAO at deathrow's signature.

Mrdummy
12-12-2002, 06:19 PM
I would honest take a Bat and break both their hands then say call the fukin cops now ya fuks

I cracked my pops head with a pipe before when he acted like a bitch, But he respects me now.


Hell no turn me in and awwww fukk

Sorry, that just makes me mad, hell I feel like doing it for ya
:mad:

poopoo
12-12-2002, 08:05 PM
wow! I wouldn't want to get on your bad side mrdummy!:eek: :eek:
but I do agree that they have done a rotten thing. I just would'nt break their fingers, maby just the pinkies:mad: :mad:

gonzaox
12-12-2002, 11:45 PM
Sounds like the parents wanted to do good for his son, but went about it the wrong way.

Good luck bro.

Slippy
12-13-2002, 09:08 AM
h

Slippy
12-13-2002, 09:13 AM
I'm really confused. Your saying your parents got the law involved, which may cause you to be charged with a felony. Which could possibly result in a prison sentence, however, now they think it's ok to juice as long as your tests come back alright. "Sorry we got you busted son, don't worry about it, carry on, as you were."

Mrdummy
12-13-2002, 11:57 AM
Ya presser I am on Xanax already

:D

jshoty
12-19-2002, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Slippy
I'm really confused. Your saying your parents got the law involved, which may cause you to be charged with a felony. Which could possibly result in a prison sentence, however, now they think it's ok to juice as long as your tests come back alright. "Sorry we got you busted son, don't worry about it, carry on, as you were."

well, they just dont want the shit in their house, but yeah ill continue to use even if they didnt want me too

insulinAL
12-22-2002, 06:41 PM
my name is jshoty, i am a retard....lol j/k bro my door's always open to ya if ya need a place to crash. oh, and by the way...eat my schlance

jshoty
12-24-2002, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by insulinAL
my name is jshoty, i am a retard....lol j/k bro my door's always open to ya if ya need a place to crash. oh, and by the way...eat my schlance

lol

Gear101*
12-24-2002, 11:11 AM
you should be OK... as long as it's not your third time..

Ecfatcat
12-25-2002, 04:04 AM
just dumb the hole way around you should have known how you parents would react ........they obviously don't think you old enough or responcable

that sucks Bro if you go to school out of state stay there for the summer or go work out of state for summer don't let them arrest you.........

bigjim33
12-26-2002, 01:41 AM
46 and bass did a nice job summarizing what to do if you do get into shit, and i think prez did also. so always be prepared if need be

organdoner
01-05-2003, 06:20 PM
since we. (i mean you guys) use gear. lol. obviously the thinking is the parents are wrong but if it's they're house they can do what ever they want. just like your kid using heroin. if you don't want the shit in the house then it's your right. i do think calling the cops was wrong though. bottom line dude. GET YOUR OWN PAD!

schmerker
01-06-2003, 11:53 AM
im an attorney,youll be fine, probation probably even diversion, as long as you werent selling it then you got problems

stumpy
01-07-2003, 02:28 AM
a few years back my mother got a hold of my gear a trashed it all. i was devastated. all that money down the tubes. lol