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gymrat
12-17-2002, 11:11 AM
I want to know what you guys would do. Everyone in my family has an extremely underactive thyroid, including myself. Everyone in my family has perscriptions for thyroid hormone and take it. I have a perscription also but I refused to take it because my physician told me that once I start, I'm on it for the rest of my life. My thyroid is very underactive. I go to the gym twice a day (cardio for 45 min in the AM), eat extremely healthy, and yet I can't get lean. I don't have a extremely high level of fat % (15%) but for all the work I put in and out of the gym I should be ripped. My question is, as a result would you guys take the perscription?

mbstrong
12-17-2002, 11:26 AM
Not if you have to take it the rest of your life. Jump on some winny, fina, and suspension...........Also try adding protein shakes in for your meals. What's you diet look like???????

gymrat
12-17-2002, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by mbstrong
Not if you have to take it the rest of your life. Jump on some winny, fina, and suspension...........Also try adding protein shakes in for your meals. What's you diet look like???????


I've already done 4 cycles including winny, fina, enanthate, prop, Eq, deca. Not all together of course. I don't plan to be juicing forever. My cycles have yielded very good gains as I always do my homework before hand, but still that should not be the way. I have protein shakes 3 times per day. Here is a sample of my daily meals. This is today.

7:00 AM = cardio for 45 min.

8:30 AM = 4 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 1/2 pound lowfat cottage cheese

10:30 AM = schartzlab protein shake (2 scoops)

12:30 PM = 2 cans of tuna with tspn of flax oil, two slices of whole wheat toast, 1 lowfat yogurt

3:00 PM = schartzlab protein shake (2 scoops) with tspn of flax oil

5:00 PM = lifting session

7:00 PM = 1.25 pounds of extra lean ground turkey with salsa mixed in (yummy)

before bed = schartslab protein shake (2 scoops)


If you think that there is something wrong with my diet, let me know what can be fixed.

WeirdAl
12-17-2002, 12:05 PM
My mom has an underactive thyroid, and was on thyroid medicine. Something intereting is that by just taking an ECA or NYC stack and no thyroid meds, her thyroid function actually tested high!

As for the diet, it's very low carb (and you don't have any simple carbs in your post workout meal) - and your calorie intake is probably very low, almost everything coming from protein. If you've been doing that for a long time, I think your metabolism will actually slow down.

gymrat
12-17-2002, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by WeirdAl
My mom has an underactive thyroid, and was on thyroid medicine. Something intereting is that by just taking an ECA or NYC stack and no thyroid meds, her thyroid function actually tested high!

As for the diet, it's very low carb (and you don't have any simple carbs in your post workout meal) - and your calorie intake is probably very low, almost everything coming from protein. If you've been doing that for a long time, I think your metabolism will actually slow down.


I've tried every eca nyc on the market. they don't work anymore. They did in the beginning when I first started but that's it. Now I just use them to get my heart rate up for my AM cardio session.

As for the low carb. I don't stick to the same diet for long periods of time so my body doesn't adjust. Every 2 months I change it up by adding simple carbs throughout the day especially after my workout. This diet is where I gain my most strength.

LA
12-17-2002, 01:24 PM
WeirdAl is right. Low carb diets will screw with T4 to T3 conversion. This is the real reason they are considered "muscle sparing". On the flip side, your insulin levels are low throughout the day so you should be burning stored fat for most of the day.

You might try the simple carbs post workout. Take them in the form of fruitose. Fruitose will replenish the liver 1st, which is what you want to convert T4 to T3.

I don't agree with your doctor about being on thyroid for life. There are different types of thyroid supplementation. For example, a low dose is meant to supplement your natural thyroid production not replace it. You don't mention your age but I'm guessing you're pretty young still do to the fact that you are worried about being on for life. I believe in playing the hand you are delt. I'm on thyroid supplementation. This makes me more aggressive when designing T3 cycles. I really don't have a fear of being shutdown for life although I still don't believe a T3 cycle can do that to someone with a healthy thyroid.

Good Luck- LA

Big Guns
12-17-2002, 01:44 PM
I will take thyroid medication the rest of my life. It's no big deal really, I just take the pill with my flinstone vitamin every morning. :)

BStrongBwell*
12-17-2002, 09:36 PM
If you're thyroid function is slow, why wouldn't you just take the medicine? You already need for the rest of your life NOW bro. Not taking it is NOT helping you in ANY way. Besides, the Synthroid they will put you on will be the exact dose to bring your function back to baseline. You can still use T3 on top of that like anyone else when cutting.

DecaDent*
12-18-2002, 11:09 AM
Gymrat,take the Rx,no question.It's just replacing what your body isn't manufacturing so your levels will be normal again. So what if you take a pill everyday,I wouldn't get hung up about that at all. You'll burn fat sooo much easier with normal levels.

bigpump9
12-18-2002, 11:48 AM
Being on thyroid medication for the rest of u're life is terrible,

but sometimes there are tought choices to be made in life......

U want to be lean and mean, u also want to be healthy and burden free........

It all about what u really want.. ... U know some pros are on thyroid medication for the rest of the life, t3, t4 other shit.....
They made that choice to look like that, and suffer consequences.......

Only u can make that choice, If it was me in your shoes i would....

realcooltime
12-18-2002, 12:28 PM
My god man, you're willing to take a bunch of gear to get lean and ripped, but not thyroid stimulating hormone to get healthy?

This is prescribed by a physician to treat a serious underlying medical condition: Hypothyroidism.

Damn, man, I can't believe that you are even considering not going on. Do what the doctor sez!

ziggy b

intense
12-18-2002, 01:43 PM
Have you tried HGH?