super mega cycle final draft( so I think)

mailboxkillR

mailboxkillR

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Going for a bulker straight into a cutter 20+ weeks
bulk
test cyp 600mgs week weeks 1-10
EQ 400mgs week weeks 1-10
androl 100mgs ed weeks 1-5
l-dex .50 ed straight through
ala 4g's ed weeks 1-10
t-3 .30 ed weeks 1-8

hcg 500 at weeks 4,8,12,16


cutter after nolvadex HCG
test suspension or prop 700mgs week 11-21
tren 700mgs week 11-21
t-3 ramp up to .75 then back down for 6 weeks
winny depot 50mgs ed week 17-21
eca/clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
ala 3.5g's ed

stats 6.0 185lbs 8% bf hard gainer
this will be my 3rd cycle

all input and advise is greatly apreciated looking to start in the very near future.
 
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wow-that is a lot of juice for a long time. 100 mg of anadrol? This is my 3rd cycle starting April
700 mg prop
700 mg EQ
525 mg Tren
You could through some A-bombs in the beginning or something but 20 weeks?
 
rugby in a way it's just 2 cycles back to back timing is the issue I wanna be cut or pretty much done cutting for summer. It looks like a lot but actually there are only 3 aas per phase and none of the doseages are over a gram. the down side is the length but being I'm in the 30's it's not a issue to me.
 
i see no need for a 3rd cycle this large at a body weight of 185lbs its just plain dumb ...100mg of abombs for 5 weeks ..have you ever used drol before ? then going to use tren and winny after all that ..i feel bad for your liver and kidneys ...i say pick one or the other and take a break
 
wasted drol makes me break out bad the beleif that tren is that hard on the liver is said to be not true and winny is depot. I may drop the a-bomb doseages down a little.
 
mailboxkillR said:
wasted drol makes me break out bad the beleif that tren is that hard on the liver is said to be not true and winny is depot. I may drop the a-bomb doseages down a little.
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ok ill buy the hear say on tren but because the winny is a depot doesnt mean its not 17-aa
 
I realize that it's 17-aa I did edit the cycle winny is at weeks 17-21 which was 6-10 of the second half. The way I am looking at is I'm taking a 17-aa for 5 weeks with 4g's of ala then 15 weeks later I'm taking another 17-aa but plan on injecting it so it's not processed through my liver first with 3.5g's of ala. I will probally take milk thistle also.
 
thanks chem U know I've been around for a while.
wasted goals with proper diet which is my weakness the bulker should yeid me 20-30 lbs but increase my bf 4-7% the cutter should reduce my bf% back down and still gain atleast 10-15 lbs more.
The thing that I kinda don't understand is why you think it's so much it's just 3 aas per 10 weeks with hcg in the middle to restore test levels because of my age my test levels are already naturally low.
Shit if I could do it I'd just do gh and slin and quit screwing around but theres more to that story.
 
IMHO if you need this much gear at a body weight of 185lbs on your 3rd cycle you should check your diet because it is fucked up ..
 
mailboxkillR said:
thanks chem U know I've been around for a while.
wasted goals with proper diet which is my weakness the bulker should yeid me 20-30 lbs but increase my bf 4-7% the cutter should reduce my bf% back down and still gain atleast 10-15 lbs more.
The thing that I kinda don't understand is why you think it's so much it's just 3 aas per 10 weeks with hcg in the middle to restore test levels because of my age my test levels are already naturally low.
Shit if I could do it I'd just do gh and slin and quit screwing around but theres more to that story.
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if you diet was in check you could gain 20-25 lean lbs off of what you have list as the second part of your cycle ...why do all that when your diet is jacked

i am not doubting that you have been around awhile ,as i am no newbie except here ,i dont get much time to come over and post
 
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heres what I'm looking at
1. I don't beleive or meant you to beleive that I though you where a newbie your opinions are very logical.
2.with t-3 eca and clen the possibilty of gaining 20-25 I beleive would be hard. I will be cutting my diet down then to rip up.
3. the only reason I'm running them back to back is with a feb start date I will finish bulking the middle of april and if I took the proper time off I would not begin cutting until the end of june which is the beginning of summer. I don't wanna be bulky and higher body fat for summer.
4. My main goal this time is also to really work on my diet and get more solid protein than from MRS's
 
mailboxkillR said:
heres what I'm looking at
1. I don't beleive or meant you to beleive that I though you where a newbie your opinions are very logical.
2.with t-3 eca and clen the possibilty of gaining 20-25 I beleive would be hard. I will be cutting my diet down then to rip up.
3. the only reason I'm running them back to back is with a feb start date I will finish bulking the middle of april and if I took the proper time off I would not begin cutting until the end of june which is the beginning of summer. I don't wanna be bulky and higher body fat for summer.
4. My main goal this time is also to really work on my diet and get more solid protein than from MRS's
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i didnt think u thought i was a new guy tryin to give advice

your 185 at 8% now so why not run the second half of your cycle minus the t-3 and clen .hell who likes the shakes anyway ..if your truley 8% your pretty lean so i see no need for t-3 and clen ..so then you goals are with in reach ..so then ull be at ur goal in april or near ...am i missing something here ..are you really tryin to gain like 50lbs and be lean by summer ???maybe i dont understand
 
what I'm thinking is that the first half will take my bf up to12-14% but now i do see what your saying just take the second half and be 205-210 butwhat I'm striving for is 225-230 with after any loss to finish215-220 @ 8-9%bf
 
mailboxkillR said:
Going for a bulker straight into a cutter 20+ weeks
bulk
test cyp 600mgs week weeks 1-10
EQ 400mgs week weeks 1-10
androl 100mgs ed weeks 1-5
l-dex .50 ed straight through
ala 4g's ed weeks 1-10
t-3 .30 ed weeks 1-8

hcg 500 at weeks 4,8,12,16


cutter after nolvadex HCG
test suspension or prop 700mgs week 11-21

300-400mg too much

tren 700mgs week 11-21
YOU CAN DO WELL WITH 75 mg EOD

t-3 ramp up to .75 then back down for 6 weeks
OK

winny depot 50mgs ed week 17-21
you need eod

eca/clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
ala 3.5g's ed

stats 6.0 185lbs 8% bf hard gainer
this will be my 3rd cycle

all input and advise is greatly apreciated looking to start in the very near future.
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you can use MUCH less
 
check your math-2nd cycle looks like 1.4g gear moving up to 1.75g-seems like a lot for a third-1st starts at 1.7g going down to 1g-just my opinion-also just because your over 30 I don't think you just say screw it and do whatever-same rules of responsible use still apply-good luck-Train Hard!!
PS:from another board-"if you can't get results from 1g test your diet or training is off"-just concerned mailbox-be safe-rippedchef
 
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check your math-2nd cycle looks like 1.4g gear moving up to 1.75g-seems like a lot for a third-1st starts at 1.7g going down to 1g-just my opinion-also just because your over 30 I don't think you just say screw it and do whatever-same rules of responsible use still apply-good luck-Train Hard!!
PS:from another board-"if you can't get results from 1g test your diet or training is off"-just concerned mailbox-be safe-rippedchef
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bump that bro ...
 
ok I see what you guys are saying. How about this then

bulk
test cyp 600mgs week weeks 1-10
EQ 400mgs week weeks 1-10
androl 50mgs ed weeks 1-5
l-dex .50 ed straight through
ala 4g's ed weeks 1-10
t-3 .30 ed weeks 1-8


hcg 500 at weeks 4,8,12,16

cutter
test suspension or prop 525mgs week 11-21
tren 525mgs week 11-21
t-3 ramp up to .75 then back down for 6 weeks
winny depot 50mgs ed week 17-21
eca/clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
ala 4.0g's ed


Ripped what I meant by screw it was because I'm over 30 I could just cut all this gear out and do a simple(well kinda) gh/slin cycle with some test.
These 2 should be at least I think nothing more than a basic cycle just back to back
Should I run hcg at week 20 also?
Thanks for all your help I really apreciate it
 
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