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sliprock
01-14-2003, 01:47 PM
Like how much to take, when to take and the benifits.
I heard that it gives you good pumps in the gym, is that true.
Is it ok to tkae with food?
Thanks guys

midwtchamp
01-14-2003, 01:50 PM
It is a good lab agent lol...never heard of anyone using on themself. When I was getting my chem degree it was used quite a bit...but hell if you want to put it in your body go right ahead.

sliprock
01-14-2003, 01:58 PM
I saw some at a suplement store, the guy there sd that it works good. Mabey he just wanted to get a sale

CJWolford
01-14-2003, 03:27 PM
i never really noticed anything from it...

i used vanadyl sulfate and chromium regularly, and i never noticed that much from it.

DragonRider
01-14-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by CJWolford
i never really noticed anything from it...

i used vanadyl sulfate and chromium regularly, and i never noticed that much from it.

Same here!
If anything, it made me constipated.

DecaDent*
01-14-2003, 06:35 PM
Vanadyll sulfate enhances insulin sensetivity in Type II diabetics(controled without insulin). It has absolutely no effect on normal test subjects or on patients with type I(insulin using) diabetics.

Don't waste money on it.

Here's an article on type II diabetics(the ones that it works on) that gives you some backround as to it's effects on type II diabetics.

Vanadyl sulfate (VOSO(4)) is an oxidative form of vanadium that in vitro and in animal models of diabetes has been shown to reduce hyperglycemia and insulin resistance. Small clinical studies of 2- to 4-week duration in type 2 diabetes (T2DM) have led to inconsistent results. To define its efficacy and mechanism of action, 11 type 2 diabetic patients were treated with VOSO(4) at a higher dose (150 mg/day) and for a longer period of time (6 weeks) than in previous studies. Before and after treatment we measured insulin secretion during an oral glucose tolerance test, and endogenous glucose production (EGP) and whole body insulin-mediated glucose disposal using the euglycemic insulin clamp technique combined [3-(3)H]glucose infusion. Treatment significantly improved glycemic control: fasting plasma glucose (FPG) decreased from 194 +/- 16 to 155 +/- 15 mg/dL, hemoglobin A(1c) decreased from 8.1 +/- 0.4 to 7.6 +/- 0.4%, and fructosamine decreased from 348 +/- 26 to 293 +/- 12 micromol/L (all P < 0.01) without any change in body weight. Diabetics had an increased rate of EGP compared with nondiabetic controls (4.1 +/- 0.2 vs. 2.7 +/- 0.2 mg/kg lean body mass.min; P< 0.001), which was closely correlated with FPG (r = 0.56; P< 0.006). Vanadyl sulfate reduced EGP by about 20% (P< 0.01), and the decline in EGP was correlated with the reduction in FPG (r = 0.60; P< 0.05). Vanadyl sulfate also caused a modest increase in insulin-mediated glucose disposal (from 4.3 +/- 0.4 to 5.1 +/- 0.6 mg/kg lean body mass x min; P< 0.03), although the improvement in insulin sensitivity did not correlate with the decline in FPG after treatment (r = -0.16; P = NS). Vanadyl sulfate treatment lowered the plasma total cholesterol (223 +/- 14 vs. 202 +/- 16 mg/dL; P < 0.01) and low density lipoprotein cholesterol (141 +/- 14 vs. 129 +/- 14 mg/dL; P < 0.05), whereas 24-h ambulatory blood pressure was unaltered. We conclude that VOSO(4) at maximal tolerated doses for 6 weeks improves hepatic and muscle insulin sensitivity in T2DM. The glucose-lowering effect of VOSO(4) correlated well with the reduction in EGP, but not with insulin-mediated glucose disposal, suggesting that liver, rather than muscle, is the primary target of VOSO(4) action at therapeutic doses in T2DM
J Clin Endocrinol Metab 2001 Mar;86(3):1410-7 (ISSN: 0021-972X)
Cusi K; Cukier S; De Fronzo RA; Torres M; Puchulu FM; Redondo JC
University of Texas Health Science Center, San Antonio, Texas 78284, USA. cusi@uthscsa.edu.

HardMoFo
01-14-2003, 09:33 PM
dude are you from Slippery Rock or what? I used to go there, just wandering

stumpy
01-15-2003, 02:44 AM
agree w/decadent, save you money.

sliprock
01-15-2003, 12:05 PM
Thanks for the info guys,
No Im not From Slippery Rock, Ive never heard of the place, what state is it in.
Im from Edmonton AB Canada.
And its Frickin cold right now - 20c

HardMoFo
01-15-2003, 12:57 PM
son of a bitch you better not be hangin around in your skivvies, slippery rock is in Pennsylvania

cybersteffan
01-15-2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by CJWolford
i never really noticed anything from it...

i used vanadyl sulfate and chromium regularly, and i never noticed that much from it.


up there with ya bro! I do kinda like chromium to control sugar cravings.