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Shredded
01-27-2003, 11:36 PM
Need some help from those of you using Quality Vet products. I have 3 bottles of Enantat QV 250. I just finished the first bottle about a month ago. I had some fairly good pain at the injection sites from this bottle. This week I have started the second bottle. This time, very minimal pain. No difference in amount or injection site. I started comparing the boxes of all three bottles. I noticed that the lot number and expiration date on the first bottle (used) was printed like the rest of the box, but the other two boxes have stamped lots and expiration dates. There are one or two differences in font sizes between the first box and the other two but nothing obvious. Probably one of the most concerning things that I noticed was while all boxes bore the QV security hologram, when inspected closely, the security hologram on the two boxes with the stamped dates have two v cuts through the hologram so that it would obviously be destroyed if it was removed. The other box, while the hologram is identical does not have these perforations. I also have a 50 ml bottle of the QV deca 200. I am concerned about this one because it too has the date and lot printed like the rest of the box and the hologram does not have the v perforations. Any expertise on these out there? The first bottle of Test was purchased before the other two, but the bottle of Deca was purchased at that same time as the two bottles of test with the stamped dates. Help guys.
Shredded

tinman01
01-27-2003, 11:59 PM
Can you check there web site?

deltachistud
01-28-2003, 12:24 AM
huh, i have qv deca300, hope its real, need to check that site too

J*
01-28-2003, 01:32 AM
Hey,

I am using test e and deca...seems to be working well...I'll check tomorrow and see exactly what they look like.

J

midwtchamp
01-28-2003, 02:04 AM
here you go hope this helps

46and2aheadofme
01-28-2003, 02:29 AM
I remember reading a post in the last few days (either on MM or FG) that QV has recently changed their packaging to be more counterfeit-proof...

TAZ
01-28-2003, 06:13 AM
The last batch of QV stuf that I got has printed lot and exp #'s and I am pretty sure myine is legit. Also bot the lot and Exp match the web site dates. My guess is that they went this way for cost. Most manufacturers do this. I will check the Hollogram.
-TAZ

dpsquat
01-28-2003, 08:13 AM
take them OFF not saying its faked YET But the good QV should leave a pattern of marks under the skicker

Shredded
01-28-2003, 10:33 AM
The results from the first bottle were satisfactory, although I was on several items at the time and cannot verify that the test was responsible. The pain from that first bottle was horrible. This bottle has a much more acceptable degree of pain. Maybe they have decreased the amount of Benzyl alcohol. Yes, I have checked their website but anyone faking these items has just as much access to this information as we have. My lots and exps are listed on the chart. Also of a curious nature, my first bottle, the one with the lot and exp printed like the rest of the box has the lot QVE-002 with an exp of September 2004. If you look at their chart, this lot and exp are listed twice for the 50ml bottle with different strengths. This is not possible as all bottles from a particular lot will be of the same strength otherwise lot numbers are useless. I spent most of my time examining the boxes last night. Tonight I will compare the bottles.
Shredded

Team Flex
01-28-2003, 12:29 PM
You should be ok bro, If you can post a pic it would help.. midwtchamp posted some pretty good ones...

SKINLESS
01-28-2003, 07:14 PM
if the lots #'s and experiation dates check out, then you should be alright. how good is your source? were the bottles and or boxes opened? they should come with clear plastic wrapped around the box, so you know it hasn't been opened or fucked with. you should probably be alright. if the pain hurts real bad on the next bottle, boil it. make sure you put a syringe into the vial, and make sure it is not in the oil, this way the BA can escape and the bottles won't explode. boiling helps alot.

jake steed
01-31-2003, 02:31 AM
My bro had some bad pain recently from the enth 250 he had to take off work cause he couldn't walk... I also noticed the 50ml deca 200 bottle color changed from baby blue to green did anyone else notice this? I am sure mine are good... but I thought I would add in my experience. That Enth is the DEVIL....

muscleitis
01-31-2003, 09:16 AM
i got 3 bottles of it & man the first 4 weeks were brutal. my final shot of the first bottle was the most painful. i shook it very well as i always do, but my glute swelled up and hurt like a mother. my brother had the same prob..second bottle is going very well with little pain.

CJWolford
01-31-2003, 12:27 PM
they just changed the packaging, so it looks a little different.

even the color of the eq box changed a little.

jake steed
01-31-2003, 06:00 PM
ok thanks
I feel better......

midwtchamp
02-01-2003, 02:52 AM
you guys are pusses that talk bout qv test e hurting..man I dont feel a thing lol!

kossdeh
02-01-2003, 10:54 AM
I think what it means it that it feels a little different. I agree witcha, never pain from eth. Its great stuff from anyone. So long as its real

Shredded
02-03-2003, 11:04 AM
K, everyone that is having some pain from the QV enanthate try this and see if it helps. And trust me, mine was bad, nearly crippling for several days. The past two weeks, I have taken my injections, 2 three cc shots, right before bed instead of in the morning. One in each hip or quad. NO PAIN. ZERO. I would be interested in doing the next series in the morning to see if it comes back, but I don't want to know that bad.
Shredded

midwtchamp
02-03-2003, 12:24 PM
Yo shredded you could cut the pain even more it you did 3 2cc shots....just my 2 cent

Shredded
02-04-2003, 01:19 PM
Here it is, straight from the horses mouth. An email from Quality Vet.
In response to your inquiry, we want to inform you that we previously used
to print the lot number and expiration date as the rest of the box and
label. We recently acquired an authomatic lot machine which prints lot #
and exp. date at the moment the product is being manufactured(in black ink).
Regarding the hologram, both forms (with V cuts and with little circles) are
correct.
For all the above, you have purchased legitimate products.
Sincerely,
Quality Vet.

Thanks guys,
Shredded

46and2aheadofme
02-04-2003, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by Shredded
Here it is, straight from the horses mouth. An email from Quality Vet.
In response to your inquiry, we want to inform you that we previously used
to print the lot number and expiration date as the rest of the box and
label. We recently acquired an authomatic lot machine which prints lot #
and exp. date at the moment the product is being manufactured(in black ink).
Regarding the hologram, both forms (with V cuts and with little circles) are
correct.
For all the above, you have purchased legitimate products.
Sincerely,
Quality Vet.

Thanks guys,
Shredded

Damn.
Now THAT'S an answer :)
Way to wrap up the thread bro and let us all in on the knowledge.
Thanks.

bigshug
02-05-2003, 01:26 AM
bump that, you had me checking my stuff to make sure it was legit.....I'm still feeling no pain whatsoever even after a monster 3 cc shot into the old quad, I LOVE this shit