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Presser
02-13-2003, 01:54 PM
Man I have to say I finaly tryed Insulin and Creatine(schwartzlabs) and its unreal. Its amazing how fast your muscles blow up and how strong you get. I havent juiced in god knows how long so this was a welcome addition to my training.

I do not advocate this though!! its tricky if you dont know what ur doing.

Anyone else doing it and how do they run it with their meals and carbs

ken69dahl
02-13-2003, 02:16 PM
I run about 25g creatine throughout the day and then I run the slin like this. 10iu's a.m. followed by a protein shake 60g protein, 108g carbs. Head to the gym and do morning workout. 1 Hour before night workout 10 iu's followed by another protein carb shake.

bjtheman
02-13-2003, 02:35 PM
I've heard you can take glucophage with creatine as well!

hostile
02-13-2003, 02:39 PM
I usually run humalog post workout at 15iu's. I drink one carbo force, 10g creatine, 10g glutamine, Shake with 50g protein as little fat as possible.

Then I just eat as much as I can and as clean as I can for the next several hours.

I have had no problem with fat gain.

And, I am doing something like 4weeks on (workout days only), 6 weeks off.

rooster1
02-13-2003, 06:04 PM
I just got my Humulin R today.I am going to start slow with 1iu and work up to 7 or 8 iu.I plan on only doing it post workout immediately with 60 grams carbs and creatine and then follow that immediately with a clean meal.60-70 grams each of protein and carbs and another meal after that in two hours.Can't wait to get those pumps.

Do you guys take it to the gym with you?I was planning on doing that and then taking it right after the workout.

Kiss
02-13-2003, 07:40 PM
I plan on trying this as well since I just recently came off the juice. I will have to watch my fat intake.

Hostile, if you do this for like 4 weeks, how many weeks do you stay off?

Presser, how long you been doing this?

winnie
02-13-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by rooster1
Do you guys take it to the gym with you?I was planning on doing that and then taking it right after the workout.

Good question....BUMP

dpsquat
02-13-2003, 09:14 PM
i usually have a cooler with me all the time and yes the pump is unreal but i had to play with my carbs a tad i didnt do it pre workout to often but bridge using it post cycle and i mainted my gains well!!

woody01
02-13-2003, 11:22 PM
do you guys ever worry bout having a problem w/ the slin later down the road as for as having to take it do to diabetic type problems.i want to try the slin,but i worry that when i'm done playing this game at about 35,i don't want to find out i have to take slin for the rest of my life. is this rediculas?i've said this before,what are the long term side affects of taking slin when u don't need it?r there any?slin hasn't been around for b/b that long.i guess the vets need to answer this for me,to put me at ease. fo rwhat it's worth,i hear the affects are awsome,for bulking.

hostile
02-13-2003, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Kiss
I plan on trying this as well since I just recently came off the juice. I will have to watch my fat intake.

Hostile, if you do this for like 4 weeks, how many weeks do you stay off?

Presser, how long you been doing this?

I have been off for about six weeks now. I am thinking 4 on and 6 off is the way for me to go. I really like to let my body get back to normal between cycles. I will plan the slin to be run for the 4 weeks immediately following my cycle for sure and then take as much time off as I feel it takes to get back to normal.

bigshug
02-14-2003, 01:46 AM
BUMP for Woody's question, I assumed that if you messed with your body's insulin production, you could end up permanently suppressing (or stopping it entirely) it similar to the effects some guys suffer from taking too much test for way too long......and info??

bigshug
02-14-2003, 04:58 AM
Get back up there!!

hostile
02-14-2003, 11:08 AM
This worries me a little. I have read and read and read about slin for the past six months though, and I have not found anything that says using slin for BB will make you diabetic. I figure that there are a lot of people doing a lot more slin than I will ever do. If I start hearing stories about people becoming diabetic from using slin for BB then ofcourse I will stop.

I would like to hear from DecaDent on this one.




Originally posted by woody01
do you guys ever worry bout having a problem w/ the slin later down the road as for as having to take it do to diabetic type problems.i want to try the slin,but i worry that when i'm done playing this game at about 35,i don't want to find out i have to take slin for the rest of my life. is this rediculas?i've said this before,what are the long term side affects of taking slin when u don't need it?r there any?slin hasn't been around for b/b that long.i guess the vets need to answer this for me,to put me at ease. fo rwhat it's worth,i hear the affects are awsome,for bulking.

midwtchamp
02-14-2003, 03:16 PM
so how do you guys get it...isnt is suspicious walking in a pharm being a big guy saying I need some humalog....I mean I know it is legal and stuff...but I would be uncomfortable buying it

bigpump9
02-14-2003, 05:06 PM
I don't if u guys remember, i had a cycle in december, 7 weeks
500mg test enth, 400mg deca, with slin, went from
205 to almost 250$, benched went from 295 for 3 reps, to 315 for 8.

superchicken
02-14-2003, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by rooster1

Do you guys take it to the gym with you?I was planning on doing that and then taking it right after the workout.

i wouldnt recomend that, but you can. i take the slin when i get home from the gym, the reason i dont think its a good idea is cause say you take your shot, and your driving home, and somthing comes up, accident whatever. what do you do when you go hypo? now of course youd bring a carb source with you just in case, but i feel more safe knowing im in my house and very little chance i can go hypo there.

for most poeple it only takes 5-20min to get home from the gym, taking the slin 5-20 min earlier isnt gonna help much anyway, i dont see why people bother bringin it with them.

rooster1
02-15-2003, 01:58 AM
Good point SC.I was thinking about that to.I also had read that some guys take it 30 min prior to the end of the workout for the awesome pumps.But,this sounds like an unsafe practice. midwtchamp,I got mine online.Just used the search engine for insulin.It was just over $30 w/shipping.

Harvey Balboner
02-15-2003, 02:29 AM
I don't think I have ever seen a study saying that slin can make you dependant, it is just a common theory.

If you feel uncomfortable buying it, just say you are picking it up for you girlfriend/wife, and have it written down what you need, and read it off to the pharmisist. It's over the counter, they won't even question you.

BitterB
02-15-2003, 05:23 AM
Are you guys saying that you can buy slin over the counter in AMERICAN pharmacies??? I ask because I was going to go to mex, I had never heard that you could get it here. I just figured it was perscription.

superchicken
02-15-2003, 05:41 AM
yes. humulin r is otc. pretty much any pharm or drug store will sell it to you no questions asked. i tell them its for my girlfriend if they ask

woody01
02-15-2003, 10:29 AM
i'd like to through a "whats up!" out to the famous ckicken.nice to see u again.:p

Harvey Balboner
02-15-2003, 02:50 PM
I've never seen a study were it has been proved that a small dose, for 2-4 weeks at a time, can make you slin dependant, it is pretty much a theory.

I think if you over do it, taking high doses, and for weeks at a time, there is a good chance your body could adapt to it, and become dependant on it.

BitterB
02-15-2003, 06:23 PM
So if I am going to buy humulin r, what size bottle does it come in? Do they sell you needles too? How much for the slin and needles?

rooster1
02-17-2003, 01:53 AM
mine was 10 ml.about $26+ship,came to about $30.

LA
02-17-2003, 12:27 PM
I've heard you can take glucophage with creatine as well!

This one doesn't make sense to me. Glucophage slows the release of nature slin and re-sensitizes muscle receptor cells. Some people mistake glucophage for "oral" slin. I beleive this is incorrect.

If I'm wrong here someone correct me.

Presser
02-17-2003, 12:59 PM
not sure about glucophage but creatine is amazing with glutamine, for me anyhow

bjtheman
02-17-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by LA


This one doesn't make sense to me. Glucophage slows the release of nature slin and re-sensitizes muscle receptor cells. Some people mistake glucophage for "oral" slin. I beleive this is incorrect.

If I'm wrong here someone correct me.

It aids in absorbtion....with use of creatine and glucophage it helps with the absorbtion process(faster acting). It doesn't slow down the release of natural slin...it helps your body respond better to the natural slin it already makes!

woody01
02-18-2003, 07:46 PM
is it ok to use creatine during cutting phase?

BStrongBwell*
02-18-2003, 08:05 PM
press---how many times/wk are you doing slin and for how many weeks?

stumpy
02-19-2003, 01:54 AM
i hit that well known underground olympic athlete cycle a few years ago. ive hit two weeks on and two weeks of. 10iu's ed after training, followed by large amounts of creatine,protein, and carbs about an half hour to an hour after the injection. pretty intense, but you must keep a strong hold on a clean diet when on the slin, or else you will become a slob.

midwtchamp
02-19-2003, 01:57 AM
Yo stump....isnt the clean diet thing just when the slin is active like the 2 hrs. following taking it?

stumpy
02-19-2003, 02:26 AM
actually if you are taking a product such as humulinR, you have about 8 hours of activity in your system, while peaking at four. im postive that there are faster acting preparations of the drug but HumulinR seems to be most popular with use in the bodybuilding arena.

Harvey Balboner
05-19-2003, 10:30 AM
Good info

footballcat
05-19-2003, 12:42 PM
slin sounds so interseting, but not good for us youngsters. LOL
So does it work real well while on ur cycle.

Harvey Balboner
05-19-2003, 01:29 PM
It's bar none the most powerful drug I have tried. Nothing puts weight on me like that.

shiko24
05-19-2003, 05:31 PM
I started running slin a few weeks ago but had to stop due to an upcomming show and I am trying to cut but I was on for 4 weeks and it is the shit ! I took it with me to the gym in a cooler pack with my milk and portien powder as well as my creatine I worked my way up to 8iu's and the pumps were unreal I work out 5 days a week so I ran it every workout day taking sat and sun off as for where to get it
Wally world ! yes walmart has it and guess what it is only $18.00
I got that and 100 pins for less than 30 bucks !

I can not wait till after the show to go back on this stuff !

good luck !
BE CAREFUL !

WeirdAl
05-19-2003, 06:41 PM
Yeah, your arms freaking blew up on it, shiko! :D

BitterB
05-20-2003, 03:49 PM
I ordered some from a Canadian pharmacy and have been waiting for 2 weeks!! I am so eager to try it. I tried walking into a pharmacy to get it, but they would not sell it to me. I got rael nervous, and they picked up on that. Started asking me questions, I said it was for my girlfriend. They asked for her number so that they could call her and ask questions. I bailed!!

PAIN_IN_THE_ASS
05-20-2003, 03:51 PM
guys can slin be used pre workout and if so what the difference

shiko24
05-20-2003, 05:50 PM
yes it can be used preworkout but with great caution and a lot of know how

Gear101*
05-20-2003, 08:16 PM
i got a bottle in the frig right now... i'm next thanks to machines help.. :D

mailboxkillR
05-20-2003, 10:38 PM
I'm in already the pumps are awesome been gettint the little spots of light in my eyes again(don't ask)

Harvey Balboner
09-04-2003, 06:56 PM
bumping up for you