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bigjosh
02-13-2003, 09:50 PM
I've been planning out my next cycle and I have a question about which deca to go with and weather to go w/ abombs or dbol. I've done dbol many times but never played with abombs yet, so I am thinking of using them to ease my curiousity... Yes I know this is a heavy cycle. The cycle is still under construction too, so some info may change.

Here is the cycle:

Weeks 1-12: 2.5mg Femara ED
Weeks 1-12: 250 mg Organon Sust 250 ED!!!
Weeks 1-12: 100mg of Deca ED!!!
Weeks 1-12: 4iu's hgh ED
Weeks 1-5: 50mg dbol ED or 100mg Anadrol ED
I have the option of going w/ QV Deca 300mg/ml or Organon Deca 100mg/ml. If I do the QV I'll do 150mg ED or 1/2cc to make it easy and if I go w/ organon I'll go with 100mg ED. Any ideas on wheather it would be better to go w/ human deca or qv deca? I'm looking for results, not worried about price.

HCG possibly sometime in the middle and clomid and or hcg post cycle. (i've never used hcg, always been fine w/ clomid)

The doseages are in excess I know... but I have a friend who did a similar cycle w/ great results and I'm dying to try it and I always take monster doseages anyway...

Geaux4Tigers
02-14-2003, 01:58 AM
Damn bro, that is some serious doseages! You must have organs made of steel. LOL You are taking in 1750mg of test a week and 1050mg deca, not to mention the drol. DAMN, that has got to be a record IMO. I think you should do half and give the other half to me. LOL I just feel like that is such a waist. Why not split this up into two cycles. Why not do 1g test a week and 500mg deca a week. With the added d-bol or drol that would be an awsome cycle. I don't have any experience with growth, but from what i have read, i thought that was more of a long term cycle or a bridge.

bigjosh
02-14-2003, 10:05 AM
I've done such crazy doseages b4, but never have I done hgh, so it may be a waste... I am only going to do 12weeks of gh due to money, but if I hold out maybe I can extend that some. I may drop the doseages... I've done some cycle before w/ monster doseages and always had great results, yet w/ all my "normal" cycles I've been disappointed, so I am a firm believer in doing well over 1g of test/wk, but I do think the added deca may be a lil much... thanks for the input bro...

Geaux4Tigers
02-14-2003, 01:11 PM
Maybe you can cut the HGH down to 3 iu ed and add another 4 weeks to your cycle. I'm new to gh so don't go by me. I'm just throwing options out there. Bump for someone with gh experience.

Azmodeus
02-14-2003, 01:40 PM
Why are you injecting each drug every day? Damn you're going to be sore. I agree with Geaux4Tigers that it's alot of juice, but you know your own body best.

TAZ
02-14-2003, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Azmodeus
Why are you injecting each drug every day? Damn you're going to be sore. I agree with Geaux4Tigers that it's alot of juice, but you know your own body best.

probably cause EOD would still be a full 3cc syringe. I don't like sticking that much oil at one time in one place either.
-TAZ

TAZ
02-14-2003, 01:59 PM
I would stick to the D-Bol. Anadrol and Deca together can cause some problems in some people. Dbol would be cool but that is allot of androgens. Watch your bloodpressure and water retention.

My experince with Anadrol is it is a very good mass builder but it is also very strong. It gave me headaches at 100mg ED. I also retained allot of water on it. I would run it with just test and extend the test out 4 weeks past the drol.

-TAZ

bigjosh
02-14-2003, 02:33 PM
I actually like injecting and inject in nearly every part of my body, so that won't be a prob... I am presently injecting 10cc's of kynoselen ED... but that's a lil easier being water based... I've done 3cc's ED for 8 weeks b4 of oil based though... I've done cycles of up to 2g sust /wk, but only steadily stayed at 1.5g/wk... and have run deca up to 1,200mg/wk, but generally stay around 600....


Also ED injections will work good because it'll be the most even blood level I think... And the 50mg of prop in the sust will be hitting me ED...



Thanks for the input,,,i'll prolly go w/ dbol...

midwtchamp
02-14-2003, 03:06 PM
Go w/prop!!!!!!!!!Say no to dbol!

TAZ
02-15-2003, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by midwtchamp
Go w/prop!!!!!!!!!Say no to dbol!


What's your basis for this? The d-bol will yield better results than adding prop will and taking and additional amount of test with the levels that he has on this cycle. D-bol strength/size gains are far superior to prop.

-TAZ

Geaux4Tigers
02-18-2003, 01:02 PM
he already has the prop in the sust. add the d-bol bro.

madchemist36
02-18-2003, 01:25 PM
dbol, and go for qv dec. also they cycle is fuckin insane. hopefully u live. hold are u man.

SKINLESS
02-18-2003, 11:50 PM
i think your cycle looks good. two grams of test isn't as insane as everyone is making it sound. i think your better off with the qv deca. quality vet is a good company its alot more affordable, i don't think human grade deca is worth the money. you should grow nicely with the growth hormone. 50mgs of dbol a day would go nicely with that cycle. and maybe some slin. you'll grow like a motherfucker.

bigjosh
02-19-2003, 01:06 AM
I hope to grow like a motherfucker,,,lol... I may be taking slin too... I just got a bottle and am pondering trying it out... if i do decide to use it during my cycle I want to get the use of it down pat well ahead of time because I will have enough to worry about while on that cycle.

On the note that those doses are not as crazy as everyone says I fully agree. There are a great many users out there who use far more than me. I have taken extremely high doses and massive stacks before and have never had a problem. When i tell people the kinds of stacks i've done most don't believe me. I got my liver and kidneys and all types of other shit tested during two of my most insane cycles which were highly more toxic than this and everything has always be completely normal... They say I'm super healthy. which may or may not be true....but i do not think i have damaged myself nor do i think i will with such a cycle because i've done such before... but there is always a risk and that is something each and every one of us has to grasp and make a decision weather to accept it or not.

One of my friends took this exact same cycle at age 23 and blew up. Contrary to popular belief I know several even as young as 20 who have used hgh and got great results. Yes i know natural levels of hgh and hormones are high at this age... no one needs to remind me of that... On the note of how old i am (and i know i'm gonna catch shit for this, lol) I am only 22. i am fully aware of all the info and my decisions are based upon these so please save me the lecture of age.

I am a firm believer in high doses and have gotten so much more from cycles that one would consider extreme whereas on the cycles that you gusy would consider normal I was very disappointed. Additionally I have spoken first hand with countless others who do heavy doses and heavy stacks and have read several hours everyday about this practice for over four years now which happens to be almost 25% of my life...lol

midwtchamp
02-19-2003, 01:51 AM
Dont like dbol bro, that is all.....sides suck and the gains arent really worth it...I mean it is a confidence booster to gain 132 lbs in a week but still I would rather jump start w/prop...

DecaDent*
02-19-2003, 01:31 PM
bigjosh,you doing the HGH 5on/2off or running it straight thru? The 5on/2off works alot better for me.

bigjosh
02-19-2003, 02:25 PM
hey Decadent,
I have not specifically decided what I am going to do w/ regards to the hgh supplementation. I was planning on doing it 7days a week, but if you find it "better" to run 5on 2off I may take your advice. I know alot of people do run it only 5days a week, so maybe I should do that because it may alow me to run the hgh longer...

DecaDent*
02-19-2003, 02:38 PM
Not only longer with good results but less sides that way as well,I got a bad case of carpal tunnel in both hands when I did the 7 day/week HGH,no sides and great results from 5on/2off.

bigjosh
02-19-2003, 04:13 PM
cool Decadent, that's what I'll probably do then. Now my hgh will last longer!!! thanks for the input...

Geaux4Tigers
02-20-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by DecaDent*
Not only longer with good results but less sides that way as well,I got a bad case of carpal tunnel in both hands when I did the 7 day/week HGH,no sides and great results from 5on/2off.

As a newbie to HGH the 5 and 2 is good to hear. That will save me some money in my plans of a future growth cycle. Deca, what are you doseages and how long do you usually stay on? Do you stack it with other AS or alone? How old are you? Just curious bro.

DecaDent*
02-20-2003, 04:24 PM
I've been using 3.6IU/d 5on/20ff and have been on it for a little over 1.5years. I'm over 30 and don't plan on comming off HGH.
It's great,especially for keeping cycle gains and fat loss.