rejoining the living soon, next cycle critique pls.

Hey my Brothers, it looks like my 84 hour weeks will come to a close in a week or so. (whew), and after I recover from it, I'm going to start another cycle. Here's what I'm thinking, any comments are appreciated.

1/3 200mg propionate every 3 days
1/12 500mg cypionate
1/12 300mg decca
16/18 200mg prop every 3 days
13/18 50mg winstrol injections eod
teslac throughout
HCG and clomid

6'3" about 230. Haven't been on a scale lately but I know I've lost weight lately from the long days (nights) outside at work. My bf is probably about 12 to 15%, no more for sure. I've been getting my ass kicked by the hours and the weather and will need a week or two to recover and get over the fatigue. Oh yeah, I'm 50 yrs old.

What's w/ taking the prop every third day? Your test levels will be all out of wack bro.

I would recommend 75 ED, unless if there is some reason why you can't inject ED.

Also, I am a little confused on how you're running the winny and prop at the end? Are you planning on running a 18 week cycle? I would just run a 15 weeker running the prop and winny for weeks 11-15, or something like that.

I agree with winnie.I do 100 mg eod but every day would be even better.Try to keep the hormone levels stable.And wouldn't run the cycle past 15 weeks because the longer your on the harder you will crash.I found the HCG 500-1000iu every 3 weeks to be very helpful.I would be curious to know if the age would effect how to prepare the cycle differently??

It'll be great to see you around more! I've missed you!

Is it common to start with 3 weeks of prop to jump start, or 2 weeks? 2 weeks of eod would end up with the same number of shots at 3 weeks every third day. It's my understanding (and experience) that cyp takes about 10 days to get into your system.

When do you start?

I can inject every day, no prob. I was just thinking that the half life would make the prop schedule run every third day. Also, my thinking at the end was that the decca will take about 3 weeks to clear, so I'd wait on the prop at the end till the decca has pretty much cleared my system, and I would also be running some test with the winstrol. Would I be better off to start the prop at the end a week after my last cyp shot?
Don't know how my age affects the cycle, other than the decca feels really good on my joints and stuff.
Thanks for the input so far, gives me some ideas to think about as I prepare my next run.
I ran winstrol for 6 weeks last cycle and thought I'd do the same this time. I felt like it allowed me to come off without stopping everything all at once.

Would I be better off to start the prop at the end a week after my last cyp shot?

Definetly,otherwise you're letting the cyp level taper to low before starting the prop.

The prop gets into the system a lot faster than cyp, so you get rolling on your cycle a lot faster that way WeirdAl, that's why I'm front loading. Otherwise I feel like I'm wasting a week of my cycle time.
It is going to be good to be able to have the time to read and post again. I think I might get a lay-off in a week or so, and then I think I'll take another week or two to recover from all this and then hit a cycle. I'd like to start by the first week of March so I'm done by early summer. I haven't had the time or energy to go to the gym and I'm really anxious to get back at it, and get off the night shift.

the cycle look aight but 18 weeks you are looking at a lot of suppression. i say u bulk for good 10-12 week rest for 8 weeks then hit cutting with winny prop and fina or something similar. but what u have is also fine just a bit too much suppression for me.

So where are you at now with your upcoming cylce?

weeks, mg...ect?

Also, welcome back and hit that gym. Make sure and listen to your body, you don't want to push it to hard to quick and be out even longer, but push it hard enough...

Badgermoon said:

Hey my Brothers, it looks like my 84 hour weeks will come to a close in a week or so. (whew), and after I recover from it, I'm going to start another cycle. Here's what I'm thinking, any comments are appreciated.

1/3 200mg propionate every 3 days
1/12 500mg cypionate
1/12 300mg decca
16/18 200mg prop every 3 days
13/18 50mg winstrol injections eod
teslac throughout
HCG and clomid

6'3" about 230. Haven't been on a scale lately but I know I've lost weight lately from the long days (nights) outside at work. My bf is probably about 12 to 15%, no more for sure. I've been getting my ass kicked by the hours and the weather and will need a week or two to recover and get over the fatigue. Oh yeah, I'm 50 yrs old.

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Welcome back bro hopefully I'll be back soon also.
See if this makes any sense to you this is probally how I'd run it. This is just sorta of the top of my head.

1-3 prop .75 ed = total of 525mgs per week so your not going over the cyp.
1-12 cyp 500mgs/week
1-12 deca 400mgs/week 300 is a little weak IMO EQ would be better then you could run fina later in cycle.
10-15 winny 50 eod
12-15 prop .75 ed
clomid/hcg 3 days after last prop shot.

That sounds like a good plan MBKiller. I kinda want the winny to take over as I come off the decca, and I'm thinking a 12 week cycle would be a good idea. The 10 week cycles left me feeling like I had a few good weeks of gains left that I missed out on. I have one question though. Is there any great advantage to running the prop with the winny at the end, and does switching from the cyp to prop keep the gains stimulated better? I suppose it is best to make sure that you have some test going all the while that the decca is in your system, but I'm wondering if it also helps to run test along with the winny. Last time I ran the winny by itself for a few weeks past my cycle.
Hope the plow season ends soon and you get back to the world. Looks like one more week for me and I'll be off the crazy OT.

Thanks again for the input guys.

I think it comes down to personel preference when deciding on running the prop with the winny at the end. Some feel they begin to plateua around the end so they like the winny/prop combo at the end to help solidate their gains, and give the extra kick. IMO you would be fine w/ just the winny, but then again it comes down to personel preference.

winny is right it's all personal preference. If I remember right(I always double check my numbers which I haven't had the time with this) the deca and cyp will end both after 3 weeks so by rights there will still be test and deca in your system till week 15. If I'm wrong then cyp is 2 weeks you can tell by clomid start times. The advantage I like about running prop is you still stay at 100% dose till the very end which will compliment the winny nicely.

I like the suggestions, and will adjust to run the winny from week 10 to 15. I looked at BigGun's article on half lives and I think I'll start thr prop in week 13 and shoot eod. It will be much easier to load it in the rig that way, 3/4cc as opposed to .375cc. If I split the injections into twice a week, I will shoot 2 1/4cc each time. I plan on rotating glutes and quads so that each site has more time to empty out between shots. The problem with that is that during the front loading part, I'll be adding prop at 3/4cc eod, I wonder if I should shoot that with the other stuff into my ass (3cc total) or inject it seperately since I want it to get into my system faster, if it is mixed with the long ester of cyp and decca would that delay some of it from being absorbed as fast? Aw hell, I guess I'll just inject seperately and be sure, that way I can pump that amount where ever I want. Might be a good time to try the 18ga. under the toungue idea
Thanks for the help guys, looks like I have my plan now, can't wait!