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papapump112
02-17-2003, 06:18 PM
OK bros heres the situation, Im just finishing up my clomid therapy after my first real cycle(bulker) and have a plan for a summer cycle that i want your thoughts on...

Stats:
21 y/o...5'8"...173 lbs...10% bf...Liftin 3 yrs

Cycle History:
1.Test Enan for 5 weeks @ 400mg/wk but didnt have any clomid so i gained and lost all 15 lbs just like that

2.Winter Bulk Cycle just finished...
TE @ 500mg/wk 10 wks
Deca @ 400mg/wk 9 wks
Nolva@10mg/ed
Gained 25 lbs b4 clomid and holding 23 as of today

Planned cycle:
TE @ 600mg/wk -wks 1-10
EQ@ 400mg/wk - wks 1-10
Fina@ 75mg/ed - wks 6-12
Clomid to end
nolva on hand
bromo on hand

Goals:
I like my size now but i would like to be leaner, something like 7%...so im thinking ill cut bf from now till mid summer and then likely be a little lighter and go back on and shoot for 15 super lean lbs? is 15 lean possible on that cycle?

BTW i chose TE again b/c it works for size but also bc i have 3 vials sitting here and the finas alread on the way...So tweak this for me and let me know what its gonna take to get me to a lean 185...

Also i held a little water from this cycle and had some acne on my back that i combatted with B5 but what should i run while on to minimize bloat but not hinder gains?

Thanks bros

LIBeefcake
02-17-2003, 06:43 PM
I would definetely use some armidex, femara or aromasin to fight the bloat if you want to cut. I would also run the fina in the beginning of the cycle and if you want maybe throw in some test prop for weeks 10-12.

Harvey Balboner
02-17-2003, 07:51 PM
You may want to kick start the cycle with prop, since it will take about 4 weeks for the ent. & eq to kick in.

I think the 15 pounds would be doable, you wouldn't have to loose that much to drop to 7%.

What kind of diet/cardio are you planning on?

papapump112
02-17-2003, 08:29 PM
Im actually working on my diet as we speak b/c my diet while on my bulker over winter was high calories (big on carbs and pro) and i feel like to cut the bf further im gonna need to drop sat fats and simple carbs completely?

I got right back down around 10% after the bloat went away but ive never been leaner then this so i dont know what it will take to get me down to 7%...

Mind you ive never ran an eca or done cardio consistantly so those are options i can explore allong with a lean and strict pro rich diet...

Also how bout liquidex to minimise the bloat...
And i am seriously considdering putting prop in there...

Throw any diet tips u have or general ideas u have my away all help is appreciated

Harvey Balboner
02-18-2003, 12:39 AM
definetaly use ldex if you want to stay lean with the test ent. If you really want to stay lean, run an eca throughout the cycle, and consider clen.

Maybe look at a ckd diet. here is some good info. http://board1.mantisforums.com/upload/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12018