POST FROM ANABOLICBOARD!!! FINASTRIDE FOR PROSTATE PROTECTION???

WOLFPACK

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I am an Operating Room nurse. Recently a 27year old body builder had protate surgery where I work. The cancer was beyond the prostate gland, and this means that we is a dead man. He may have up to five years to live if he either gets castrated OR takes medication that eliminates all test in his body.(prostate cancer feeds on test)

This poor fellow started using AAS at the age of 21. He told me that he has been doing two cycles per year, with the base as Test, at no more than 600mg/week and usually only 500.

After the dude was asleep on the operating room table the surgeon started to speak his mind. He said that "anyone that does not take Finasteride when using the anabolic steroid Testosterone is an absolute fool." He said that if this fellow was well informed in the use of finasteride he probably would not be here. He said that the use of testoterone, even at smallish doses "hugely increases your chance of contracting prostate cancer" The effects of test on the prostate are like a time bomb waiting to go off in later years. He also said that he has treated many men in their thirties and forties for prostate cancer that used Testosterone.

Dudes, we talk about finasteride in regard to preventing hair loss but we don't even mention the prostate. Some of you younger dudes, in your late teens and early twenties, have the "it will never happen to me complex"..I hope this is wake up call for you.

I watched my casterated father in law die of prostse Cancer at the age of 50....believe me dudes it was a terrible process. I saw him shrink from a strong lean 200 pounds at 5'-11" to a emasiated 150! AND THE PAIN!!!

TAKE FINASTERIDE! To reduce DHT in the prostate. Hair loss we can see BUT the effect on the prostate we cannot see so we tend to not even think about it...such is human nature.

If any of you duded have the following symtoms go to your doctor right away.......frequent night time urination, and or frequent urinations that do not seem to emplty your bladder, and, of course, blood in the urine.

One last thing .....deca is not hard on the prostate....maybe we should be using more deca dudes.
 
Fucking great post bro. We need more good ones like that instead of how much liquid whatever you need to take for a cycle. I have prescribed to that same belief that finasteride will not only prevent hairloss but more importantly sheild the prostate from the damaging effects of AAS. Cancer thrives in the presence of testosterone gentlemen. Good post brutha.
 
Great read Bro.But when your on Deca you can't take propecia or avadart aleast to stop hair lose LOL
 
2damtight said:
Cancer thrives in the presence of testosterone gentlemen./B]


Thats true. But I believe the jury is still out on if high test levels actually cause prostate cancer if you're not susceptible (sp?) to it through enviroment or genetics.

And prostate cancer has a insanely high survival rate (like 99.9%) if caught early. There are multiple treatments available and they all don't involve castration.

Just ask the Doc for a PSA (Prostate specific antigen) with your bloodwork (If you get it) and tell him you want a DRE (Digital rectal exam:eek: )
 
Good post, but high test does not cause the cancer,it just accelerates it. Finisteride competes with the test at the binding site in the prostate gland. Saw Palmetto has been proven to do the same thing.

Here's some info on Saw Palmetto too:
Saw Palmetto Gives Prostate Relief!
50 to 60% of men will experience benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), the swelling of the prostate gland. The prostate gland surrounds the urethra--imagine a rubber washer (prostate) with a straw (urethra) strung through it, and you have the basic setup. As the prostate gland swells and pinches closed the urethra, problems begin to emerge: painful urination, decreased flow, difficulty stopping or starting flow, nocturnal urination, etc.--these are clearly unpleasant and undesirable symptoms.

Hormonal changes that take place as men age are responsible for BPH and an understanding of these changes and how they effect the prostate gland will help to explain why Saw Palmetto is so effective at relieving BPH. As men age levels of testosterone decrease, but levels of some other hormones actually increase. The hormones that increase are FSH, LH, estrogen, and prolactin. One other culprit, an enzyme called 5-alpha-reductase, which converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is increased as well. Though levels of testosterone drop, the testosterone that is present begins to concentrate in the prostate gland--inefficient removal of the testosterone combined with increasing levels of 5-alpha-reductase results in inordinately high levels of DHT, a much more potent hormone than its precursor. This in turn causes the prostate gland to swell. Estrogen seems to inhibit the removal of DHT, complicating the situation further and prolactin is known to be an aggravating factor as well.

Saw Palmetto has a track record in reducing the severity of BPH in mild to moderate cases that is better than finasteride, the most commonly prescribed medication for BPH in the US. Why? Finasteride is a specific 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor. While Saw Palmetto is not nearly as strong a 5-alpha-reductase inhibitor as finasteride, its multiplicity of actions makes it more effective than finasteride in mild to moderate BPH - this seems to be typical of herbal medicines. Saw Palmetto shrinks the prostate with at least 10 different mechanisms:
inhibition of 5-alpha-reductase
inhibition of DHT binding to androgen receptors
slowing of nuclear and cystol androgen receptors
inhibition of 17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase
anti-estrogenic activity
reduction of growth-factor-induced prostatic growth
reduction of prolactin-induced prostatic growth
general anti-inflammatory activity
spasmolytic effect on smooth muscle
general reduction of edema
In Germany and Austria, Saw Palmetto is a first-line treatment for BPH, where it is far out-prescribed over finasteride. Saw Palmetto is MUCH cheaper than finasteride and has no side effects. 1-2 weeks of Saw Palmetto supplementation should reveal whether or not it will be effective for you (some people notice results within hours); if it works, plan on taking it regularly.
 
Total udder bullshit posted by Realgains over at Elite-"A doctor told me..."-this comes from a nurse who's done 1 cycle but posts all over like he's a MOD-show me the abstracts-show me the lab results-do some research and you'll find that its LOW test and HIGH estrogen levels that can cause prostate cancer-its all conjecture based on 60-70 year old men in case studies.Even the "Test feeds prostate cancer" has yet to be accurately studied and proven.PS-this post was the last straw for me-you can keep Elite!!
 
Bstrongwell, thank you. But does saw palmetto cause gyno like finasteride does?


hmmm....I don't believe so. Where did you read/hear that?
 
ripped! I agree with you 100% bro. This post sounds more like an advertisement. Looks like someone is pushing something, gee could it be the sale of Finastride? Also if finastride prevented cancer in the prostate gland, wouldn't that be the cure for all prostate cancer patients?
 
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