Ok guys i have a friend who thinks he has to try A/S.I have tried to talk him out of it until he gets older but no luck.So i thought i would ask and see what would be best for a 17 yr old.If i can't talk him out of it maybe i can lead him in the right direction.He plays baseball and weights 150lb he wants to add some weight .He eats like a mofo but just can't gain he works out 3 days a wk but baseball starting up that will be all he can fit in.He don't need to add alot muscle because he pitch's and catch's.So what do you guys think would be best
17yr old and A/S
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to keep eating resting training and not juicing. he will cause himself harm by juicing at a young age. i think its best to make yourself plateau at any age before juicing, he is barely out of puberty and it would be maddness to juice now. tell him he is misguided, and to read this board for about 5 years before he even considers a.s.
dedprez*
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he may eat but not at the right times...every couple of hours...try to use the metabolism that he has to his advantage....what the scale says is not always what you are going for...i would rather add 3-4 lbs of quality muscle then 10-12 of bloat, minimal muscle, and fat....thats just my take..i would imagine that he has only been training for a few years if that..correct??
Thanks guys everything you all said i have tried to pound in his head.But i also don't want him going out and taking something that could hurt him later down the road.So if i could find something that would be safe but help him.Then i could give him something to go on that if he does choose to take A/S maybe he will listen on what to take.You all now some peeps a sell a kid anything
madchemist36
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ok guys my suggestion is going to be totally different from anyone else. cuz i have been through that time.
this is what i think u should do first find out how crazy he is if he is really crazy and wont listen to any one, which means he is going to do it no matter what.
then just hook him up with these tips.
when i was 17 i did 400mg deca. along with 500mg enan.
i put on 22 pounds with that. if he takes 20mg nolvadex ed and do the clomid therapy i think he will be fine.
but first try to convince him not to take anything.
this is what i think u should do first find out how crazy he is if he is really crazy and wont listen to any one, which means he is going to do it no matter what.
then just hook him up with these tips.
when i was 17 i did 400mg deca. along with 500mg enan.
i put on 22 pounds with that. if he takes 20mg nolvadex ed and do the clomid therapy i think he will be fine.
but first try to convince him not to take anything.
Yea daddy48 that is exactly what i told him .He has alot to lose and little to gain at his age IMO.Mad36 thanks for your reply but i hope there is some way around this with him.But if not i think i would rather try to help with it than be on the side and watch him try it by himself.So thanks guys for your input
Nitrous Oxide
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He will fuck himself up if he starts using AS at 17, period !
AS will damage his body because he didn't fully developed yet..
Tell him not to do anything until he is 23 or above....
AS will damage his body because he didn't fully developed yet..
Tell him not to do anything until he is 23 or above....
BStrongBwell*
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He will likely stunt natural skeletal growth, including his shoulders, collar bone, etc if he increases his test levels like most juicers do. If he is GOING to go for it no matter what, steer him away from the tests (androgens) which produce the fast gains and steer him toward the anabolics like deca, plain durabolin, or EQ. Those will help improve strength and not just make him bigger, which might interfere with his competitive performance.
I MUST STRESS THOUGH---THIS IS A BAD CALL! IF HE CAN'T GAIN WEIGHT, IT'S HIS DIET, TRAINING, SUPPLEMENTATION, RECOERY, ...PERIOD!!! HIS BODY IS RAGING WITH THE HORMONES OF YOUTH AND HE DOES NOT NEED TO FORTIFY THAT FOR A FEW YEARS TO COME..... STARTING AAS IS FUCKING CHEATING FOR HAVING NO SELF CONTROL AND DISCIPLINE TO DIET AND TRAIN PROPERLY!!! It will be a crutch for him...sad! ANY RESPONSE FROM HIM TO ARGUE WITH ME IS SIMPLY IGNORANT...PERIOD!!! HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE DOES NOT KNOW!!!
I MUST STRESS THOUGH---THIS IS A BAD CALL! IF HE CAN'T GAIN WEIGHT, IT'S HIS DIET, TRAINING, SUPPLEMENTATION, RECOERY, ...PERIOD!!! HIS BODY IS RAGING WITH THE HORMONES OF YOUTH AND HE DOES NOT NEED TO FORTIFY THAT FOR A FEW YEARS TO COME..... STARTING AAS IS FUCKING CHEATING FOR HAVING NO SELF CONTROL AND DISCIPLINE TO DIET AND TRAIN PROPERLY!!! It will be a crutch for him...sad! ANY RESPONSE FROM HIM TO ARGUE WITH ME IS SIMPLY IGNORANT...PERIOD!!! HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE DOES NOT KNOW!!!
BStrongBwell*
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LET ME ADD....
GUYS THAT CHOOSE THE AAS ROUTE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CONTROL THEIR DIET AND TRAINING ARE PATHETIC LOSERS THAT GIVE EVERYONE THAT TAKES TRAINING, SPORTS AND BODYBUILDING SERIOUSLY A BAD RAP! AAS are not a solution or a quick fix for those who don't already have the fundamentals under control. These are the guys who end up doing something stupid, ending up screwed up or dead and find their personal stories paraded in the press on a front page....who by the way love to sensationalize the downfalls of AAS use...
STUPID....STUPID....STUPID...
LIKE GUMP SAYS...STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!
GUYS THAT CHOOSE THE AAS ROUTE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T CONTROL THEIR DIET AND TRAINING ARE PATHETIC LOSERS THAT GIVE EVERYONE THAT TAKES TRAINING, SPORTS AND BODYBUILDING SERIOUSLY A BAD RAP! AAS are not a solution or a quick fix for those who don't already have the fundamentals under control. These are the guys who end up doing something stupid, ending up screwed up or dead and find their personal stories paraded in the press on a front page....who by the way love to sensationalize the downfalls of AAS use...
STUPID....STUPID....STUPID...
LIKE GUMP SAYS...STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!
rippedchef
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TELL HIM NOT TO DO ANY AAS-NONE-IF HE STILL FEELS THE NEED THEN THATS HIS ASS-DO NOT ENABLE HIM-THE "OH WELL IF HE'S GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY I SHOULD HELP HIM SO HE DOESN'T GET HURT" ARGUMENT IS UTTER BULLSHIT-WATCH HIM-LET HIM READ BSBW'S POSTS-CHECK OUT AF-GREAT POST BY BJAARKI AS TO WHEN TO START AAS USE-DO ANYTHING TO DISSUADE HIM BUT DO NOT ENABLE THE CHILD!!!
Well Guys Thanks For Your Help I Talked Him Out Of A/S Got Him To Read What You Guys Posted.Amen BStrong i had people in the gym when i was young that tried to get me on A/S.But i said no i was going to see how much i could gain without it.Well i was 31 before I tried my first cylce and yea it did help me past those sticking points.But only because i worked hard in the gym before A/S.I can't stand those peeps that say i can't gain anything but go to the gym to hang out.When i was 17 i weigh 135lbs yea i know thats little but in 1 yr natural i weigh 185.Why everyone else was out parting i was in the gym.So hard work does pay off guys
BStrongBwell*
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The reall kicker is that if you have everything else down, the AAS will then be worth the $$ you pay for it!
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