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Harvey Balboner
02-28-2003, 08:18 PM
have some crown royal while on cycle? No orals, just injectable test, eq, & 2 days of winny.

I haven't had a drink in weeks, and am realizing that I'm a little bit of a lush.

blm9376
02-28-2003, 08:33 PM
Personally I don't think a "couple" drinks aren't too bad..it is just when you consume too much because then your body gets dehydrated. Not to mention the empty calories. I rarely drink because when I do I get too messed up and then my workouts suffer because I am dehydrated, not hungry, and generally feel shitty the next few days.

Harvey Balboner
02-28-2003, 08:37 PM
I never get hung over so my workouts don't suffer, I just need a good buzz.

tinman01
02-28-2003, 08:38 PM
The name fits you bro...

Harvey Balboner
02-28-2003, 08:41 PM
I am Irish so drinking is a reflex.

rico*
02-28-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Harvey Balboner
I am Irish so drinking is a reflex.

Yea it was like going against thousands of years of breading when i quit drinking. I have some Irish blood in me also. amongst the many others. I think a few wont kill you but like the other bros said you are on a cycle to make you body better....so I feel you work against that by abuse like drinking. just my thought.

tinman01
02-28-2003, 08:51 PM
Iam part american Indian,and i dont like to drink.
hihowareyahihowareya..lol

TAZ
02-28-2003, 10:23 PM
I don't recommend drinking on Winstrol period. There is no difference in toxicity between injectable Winstrol and oral Winstrol. It’s the same drug. The 17aa molecule has to be removed from the blood by the liver. If you ingest 50mg the liver has to process 50mg. The only difference in the oral is that there is a small loss in hormone through first pass ingestion. Your digestive tract pipes to the liver first before entering the main bloodstream. The liver breaks the bond and eliminates a small portion of the hormone on that first pass. This is in contrast to injecting it where it enters the bloodstream directly. In theory your receptors have a better chance of seeing more without the first pass loss. This is believed to be why you see the efficacy on injectable to be greater than orals. That may be debatable but the liver sees all 50mg.

The other AAS’s I don’t recommend drinking on is tren. Tren seems to alter the composition of the urine. This suggests that the kidneys may be stressed if the are not flushed with enough fresh water. Alcohol tends to dehydrate you. This may out undue stress on your kidneys.

I like to drink like most but I usually don’t on cycle and I definitely draw the line with those two drugs.

-TAZ

blm9376
02-28-2003, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by TAZ
I don't recommend drinking on Winstrol period. There is no difference in toxicity between injectable Winstrol and oral Winstrol. It’s the same drug. The 17aa molecule has to be removed from the blood by the liver. If you ingest 50mg the liver has to process 50mg. The only difference in the oral is that there is a small loss in hormone through first pass ingestion. Your digestive tract pipes to the liver first before entering the main bloodstream. The liver breaks the bond and eliminates a small portion of the hormone on that first pass. This is in contrast to injecting it where it enters the bloodstream directly. In theory your receptors have a better chance of seeing more without the first pass loss. This is believed to be why you see the efficacy on injectable to be greater than orals. That may be debatable but the liver sees all 50mg.

The other AAS’s I don’t recommend drinking on is tren. Tren seems to alter the composition of the urine. This suggests that the kidneys may be stressed if the are not flushed with enough fresh water. Alcohol tends to dehydrate you. This may out undue stress on your kidneys.

I like to drink like most but I usually don’t on cycle and I definitely draw the line with those two drugs.

-TAZ

good to know....

BStrongBwell*
02-28-2003, 11:35 PM
drinking and doing AAS does stress the liver! However, I hit it on the weekends...LOL...I'm into about 6 Coronas and 3 shots of Sambuca so far!

Badgermoon
03-01-2003, 10:54 AM
Thanks Tazz, that was good info. Glad you took the time to post it.

Nitrous Oxide
03-01-2003, 01:10 PM
GOT VODKA ? :D

Harvey Balboner
03-01-2003, 04:28 PM
Well ended up going over to a bro's house, he was out of my favorite crown royal, so I had some everclear mixed with juice. And about 5 of those Jack Daniels Hard Cola.

Has anyone tried those hard colas yet? It's just a malt beverage, but man are those things good. They taste kind of like jack & coke, but sweeter with out any burn.

Man not drinking in about 7 weeks, has made me a lightweight. It usually takes way more than that.