PDA

View Full Version : 2nd cycle advice



TheBomb
03-13-2003, 09:23 AM
my 1st cycle was Sustanon @ 500 MGs/week, Nandralone Deconate @ 400 MGS/week. this was for 10 weeks

3 weeks after last shot i did clomid for 3 weeks.

i gained about 10 - 12 pounds and kept about 7 - 8 of them. I thought i would gain more and because it was my first cycle i was a bit scared of getting too big too fast. My training partner did the same as me and gained and lost about the same.

we didnt really get strength gains like we though but we did lift a bit more.

now one problem is with the acne on my back and a bit on my chest. spots started coming up at about week 6. i thought they might clear up after clomid but they havent. some days they are better but some days they look quite bad. my girlfriend doesnt know i did a cycle and she wonders why ive got these spots :(

i am thinking of starting my next cycle this week or next week. i will probably do the Sus at 500 MGS and the deca at 400 MGS again, but i was thinking of throwing in some DBol.

I was thinking of 35MGS a day for 4 weeks.

I also want to throw in some nolvadex. Will this keep the acne down for my cycle and will it start to appear once i stop taking the nolva when my cycle is over?

If i was to take come Nolva how much should i take? ive heard 10 MGS a day should do it. Should i do this all the way through the cycle and all the way through clomid?

Let me know what you guys think

Presser
03-13-2003, 09:37 AM
nolva throug out a cycle is good, no real gains will be lossed in my opinion and i would start tanning and using a bacteria scrup in the shower, also the dbol dose is fine if you decide to go that route bro.

Now if you read up on sustanon you will find that it is most beneficial if taken everyday or atleast eod to keep blood levels even, if your popping one a week you gonna run into some blood level spike?peaks and vallys and see more unwanted side effects, so...if you do not have enough sus to go ed or eod then i would suggest some long acting test like enetate or cyp, since it is only ur 2nd cycle you shouldnt be concerned about daily dosing and keep it simple

TheBomb
03-13-2003, 09:46 AM
Thanks presser.
I do tan quite a bit and it does seem to help the spots. They are not nearly as bad as my training partners but he had quite a few to start with. I didnt have any at all before and now i have a few thats all but i dont like them.

I did 2 injections per week. I did one on monday and one on thursday. This was split into 250 MGS of SUS and 200 MGS Deca.

Would using Winny Tabs be better instead of DBol?
Im not sure how to take these but i think its the last few weeks rather that the first few with DBol.

Badgermoon
03-13-2003, 09:59 AM
If it were me, I would front load with propionate rather than winny. Save the winny till the end of the cycle, or use it in a cutting cycle later. You might also benefit from using HCG at the end of your cycle too. It will get normal test production going again faster along with the clomid.
Good luck.

goldenear
03-13-2003, 12:46 PM
I agree with what's been said. And I'll add that the recurring acne may be a sign that your endocrine system is still trying to regain its balance. 900mg's/wk of anabolic compounds is a massive first cycle dosage. Jeez, I gained 25 pounds off of 250mg/wk my first cycle.

It might be worth it to invest a small amount of cash and pick up a couple of hormone panels just to get an idea of where you're at recovery-wise.

Gear101*
03-13-2003, 01:50 PM
i have this one spot right in the middle of my back that gets acne.. just weriod.. but i guess it's better than all over

rippedchef
03-15-2003, 12:04 AM
1st cycle-900mgs/wk total and you only gained 10 lbs?-something ain't right bro-training-diet-recovery or bunk gear-you should've blown up!!

TheBomb
03-16-2003, 10:13 AM
im lost on what the hormone panels are?
whats are these and where can i get them from in the UK? Once i have some what do i do with them and what will they tell me

i read on here about people gaining like 25 pounds like a few have said but i dont know anybody locally who has done that. my training partner did the same as me and we both got similar gains and got acne with it. i was thinking about the gear being fake but i do know the source who we got it from and lots of people i know get it from the same source. I dont think it was fake but it could be i supose. I ate a lot more while on my cycle but i did keep it clean food.

The thing that makes me think it might be fake is because neither of us gained much weight and we didnt really have any strength increases. We did get spots though, does that show anything about it being real? Is there any sort of test i can do to see if its real?


I would rather get rid of these spots before i started another cycle because i dont want them to get worse but I do want to get another cycle in before my holiday in July.

goldenear
03-16-2003, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by TheBomb
im lost on what the hormone panels are?

Just simple lab tests. I know I remember seeing an online source that offered saliva-based hormone tests for a very reasonable price. Not sure about UK, though. You might have to do some searching, or just go to your doc and request some bloodwork.

TheBomb
03-16-2003, 01:44 PM
so if i go to my doc and request some blood work do i tell him ive done a cycle of steroids? if so will i most likely get a lecture from him?

goldenear
03-16-2003, 02:00 PM
That depends on your doc and your relationship with him/her. If you don't like that idea, then your alternative is to find a self-testing kit online like I mentioned before.

rippedchef
03-16-2003, 10:36 PM
hey Gold-could he use a panel mid-cycle to confirm his gear?