Cutting Cycle critique please

Hey Guys...

I wasn't getting any repsonses posting this in someone else's thread, so I thought I would start a new one in hopes of getting some opinions:

8 week cutting cycle:

Wk 1-8: Test Prop 100mg EOD
Wk 1-8: EQ 400mg (2x200mg shots per week)
Wk 1-8: FINA 75mg EOD (move to ED if nec & body is OK with it)
Wk 3-8 Winstrol 50mg EOD if injected/ 20mg ED if pills
Wk 1-2, 5-6 Clenbuterol
3-4, 7-8 ECA


QUESTIONS

1. I live in Japan and may not be able to get Fina, would it hurt the cutting cycle much to leave it out?

2. I don't really want to inject that much... 4x per week is about my max. Any reason why I need to use Test prop (which is ED or EOD) as opposed to other Tests which I can do 2x per week?

3. ANy comments on the EQ dosage? This is what I am using for bulking now, but I have heard good things for cutting as well.

4. I know everyone needs to find their own Clen dosage, and I will do so, but does anyone know what an average newbie dose might be? Just a ballpark figure would be nice.

5. Any comments on how people balance lifting and cardio during a cutting cycle would also be great.


Thanks in advance for the help!

-j69

it wont hurt to leave fina out at all but it will help keep you hard but so will diet if done properly, as for prop, well its that or suspension cause the others will make you hold more water bro.the eq dosage looks fine you know ur body best as for clen i dont use it but do a search on our board and type in clen u will lear alot

as for balancing cardio and lifting i would do cardi in the morning on empty stomach and an eca stach yee haw,lol then lift in the afternoon or evening or both if time permits

there are produsts out that have a blend of prop/fina and winny suspension wich would be perfect for you bro! the doses are low wich is realy good in my opinion to cut up, for example when dieting for a show alot of folks stop juice 3-4 weeks out alltogether so dont worry about people telling u to up the dose cause alot of them will, but trust me, also what are ur stats bro

also some liquidex,nolvadex or femera might be good to keep water of through blocking and killing estogen aromatization alltogether depending upon wich you would use

Presser,

Thanks a million for your input, bro. Perhaps you might PM me about the products you mentioned w/ prop-fina-winny.

I could take Arimidex (can't get l-dex outside of US) .5mg EOD on the cycle to help keep water bloat away. I do that on my bulking cycles.

As for stats.. currently I am on Week 6/12 of cycle #2.
6ft, 217lbs, BF - 18% maybe? not sure...

My ultimate goal is to be around 190+ lbs at 6-8% BF.

Thanks for any additional advice others might have, as well!

-j69

Cycle looks good to me and Presser gave great advise.

only thing i would add to the info press has is... maybe 10 weeks... those last tow weeks can make a big differents..

Thanks, Gear.
Since I am basically a dumbass - could you spell out how you would change the cycle to fit 10 weeks?

Like for when and how long to do each substance?

I hear lots of people say to do fina for only 6 weeks... Winny for no more than 6 weeks...

Also, what about the Clen/ECA? One of them would have 3 bouts on my system... better to do Clen 3 times or ECA?

Thanks,

-j69

no your on the right track.. if it were me i'd look at something like this

Wk 1-10: Test Prop 100mg EOD
Wk 1-8: EQ 400mg (2x200mg shots per week)
Wk 1-10: FINA 75mg EOD (move to ED if nec & body is OK with it)
Wk 5-10 Winstrol 50mg EOD if injected/ 20mg ED if pills
Wk 1-2, 5-6 Clenbuterol
3-4, 7-8 ECA


start clomid/nolv week 12

and eca will work good for your first cycle.. keep a close eye on the diet and a nice cardo workout everyday will cut you up.. clen is good stuff too just some people get really bad headaches off of it.. not me but some people.. good luck please ask any other ??

Thanks again...
but... you would do neither ECA nor CLen in wk 9-10?

-j69

you can do that eca

Thanks. So, to beat a dead horse... would it be better to start with ECA then? LIke this:

Wk 1-10: Test Prop 100mg EOD
Wk 1-8: EQ 400mg (2x200mg shots per week)
Wk 1-10: FINA 75mg EOD (move to ED if nec & body is OK with it)
Wk 5-10 Winstrol 50mg EOD if injected/ 20mg ED if pills
Wk 1-2, 5-6, 9-10 ECA
3-4, 7-8 Clenbuterol


start clomid/nolv week 12


thanks

-j69

bumpage

bumped again.

Bump this thing

I too am looking into such a cycle but I am doing Liquid Letro and nolvadex in the middle through the end. I am also switching from prop to enanthate after 4 weeks because I think props effect tapers off.