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SNDMN
04-09-2003, 10:10 AM
My plan was to take 500 mg/wk of QV EQ 1-12, 300 mg/wk of QV Test Prop 1-4, and 600 mg/wk of QV Test Enan, 1-12. Is this too much test for a second cycle? My first cycle was 300 mg/wk of QV Deca 1-9, and 500 mg/wk QV Test Enan. 1-10. Thanks for all of the help, bros!

BLEED GREEN
04-09-2003, 10:11 AM
What were your results from the 1st cycle? What are your stats and goals for this cycle?

SNDMN
04-09-2003, 10:23 AM
Stats b/f first cycle:
Wt: 189 lbs.
Bench max: 240
Squat max: 250
Deadlift max: 255
Military Press max: 175

Stats after first cycle:
Wt: 212 lbs.
Bench max: 285
Squat max: 370
Deadlift max: 370
Military Press max: 200

Goals for second cycle: To bench 315 (max), Deadlift 400 (max), Squat 400 (max), and Military Press 225 (max). Ideal weight to reach and maintain after second cycle: 220 lbs. I would not only like to reach these numbers, but also maintain them post-cycle.

BLEED GREEN
04-09-2003, 10:32 AM
You are using the prop to front load the cycle so after wk#4 you will be at 600mg week test- 900 totle for the 1st 4 weeks- I think this should do you all right. Remeber the liquidex .25mg e/d- what are your post cycle plans to keep your gains?

SNDMN
04-09-2003, 10:41 AM
My plan is to use the universally accepted Clomid scheme, which is two weeks after last shot of test (I haven't yet checked the half-life of EQ), 300 mg 1st day, 100 mg for the next 10 days, and 50 mg for the next 10 after that. Would I need HCG being that I will be on for 12 weeks, as opposed to 8 or 10? If it isn't necessary to use HCG, I'd rather not, for monetary reasons.

BLEED GREEN
04-09-2003, 10:47 AM
How did you do with holding your gains after the 1st cycle? If you had problems holding them for a period of time and used the clomid like you said I would suggest something different.

Vets lets give SNDMN some help post cycle....

SNDMN
04-09-2003, 10:54 AM
I suppose I held onto most of them with much success. My weight, even in the pinnacle of my cycle, wavered between 213 and 216. Currently, I am at 211.5 lbs. My strength went down only in Military Presses- I am still confused about that one. I was able to do 185 for 5 reps and then 195 for 3. Now I can barely do 185 for 4 reps and 195 for 1, if at all. Other than that, everything else has maintained or increased (i.e. bench, squat and deadlift).

BLEED GREEN
04-09-2003, 10:56 AM
That being the case I would not add anything else post-cycle>

SNDMN
04-09-2003, 11:12 AM
I appreciate all the help, BLEED GREEN.

LA
04-09-2003, 11:26 AM
Didn't see your height in there but the cycle looks good. Simple and effective!

There is one thing however, the EQ and the Enan have simular half-lifes. Why not stop them both at the same time?

SNDMN
04-09-2003, 11:28 AM
I am stopping them both at the same time. I am running both the test enan. and the EQ weeks 1-12.

LA
04-09-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by SNDMN
I am stopping them both at the same time. I am running both the test enan. and the EQ weeks 1-12.
Gotcha! Miss read from your first cycle to your second.

winnie
04-09-2003, 12:05 PM
I don't think HCG is needed, some will disagree, but that isn't that long of a cylce. Now, this also depends on your age, if your an old timer like some people around here;) , you might want to use it for a faster recovery, as us young bucks seem to recover quicker!

winnie
04-09-2003, 12:06 PM
Oh yeah, 600mg's of test EW is good.

Harvey Balboner
04-09-2003, 12:46 PM
I think you will be fine with just clomid.

BLEED GREEN
04-09-2003, 01:30 PM
SNDMn

My pleasure- good luck and growing.