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ArnoldsNovice
04-15-2003, 07:11 PM
I'm about a 2 weeks into fina and prop. I used a 4g kit and have been taking a half CC of fina and a half CC of QV prop 100 everyday.

I haven't really felt or noticed much yet, some veins are buldging but how can I really tell if the Fina is working?

I'm runinng this combo after spending about 8 weeks with EQL test 400 at 800/ week. I would never go on this long but I have a feeling the EQL was bogus, it hurt liek hell but i didn't gain any more in weight and strength than i would have naturally. I realize that everyone react differently but not ainning a lb off 800mg of ethnate a week is a bit odd, especially when the jars were 20 cc's each and the label looked like a child made it.

scorpio
04-15-2003, 07:16 PM
It took me about 2 weeks to notice. I saw large gains in strength, muscle hardness, and short temper syndrome.

BiggerStronger
04-15-2003, 08:27 PM
I noticed your other post about EQL and forgot to ask you how your diet and training was?

Diet is very important and if you do not consume enough calories your gains are going to be jack shit. You might lose a little bf and gain 2-3 lbs of muscle, but it wont be much.

Also You may think I'm eating enough. You might feel full, but if you are just eating 2 protein bars, a couple pieces of chicken and veggies per day and some outmeal and perhaps a shake after workout...that might seem like its healthy and enough food but if you add it up I'm sure its less than the calories you need to grow significantly.

Many guys have grown very well off of this brand and it seems that you are not doing something right in terms of training or diet. Work on the basics before pointing at the supplements...

Tell us diet and training information...

P.S. Not a flame, but just trying to help you out from my own personal experience...

MacGyver
04-15-2003, 08:57 PM
I agree. Steriods aren't magic at all. It all comes down to diet, diet, and diet, You are on your second cycle in a row and still not noticing anything?
Fina and prop showed signs for me after 1 full week. You will start to notice your strength go through the roof.

bigshug
04-16-2003, 01:16 AM
My strength has gone through the freakin' roof on fina....I'm hooked

Harvey Balboner
04-16-2003, 01:18 AM
Between 1 - 2 weeks for me, all I notice is strength goes up, & I feel more aggressive, weight gain is minimal.

footballcat
04-16-2003, 07:36 AM
took me 4 weeks to feel anything. I was very aggressive while taking fina. I put alot of water on with it too. But wow did i get a shit load stronger

Big Babom
04-16-2003, 07:47 AM
I just bought some finaplix here in brasil is so cheap ....50 ml for USD 133.00

Gear101*
04-16-2003, 09:11 AM
short temper syndrome... LOL

i try about every second week to go over 90mg ed and try 1.5ml in place of the 1ml/90mg.. i can tell that i have short temper syndrome big time so i back it back down

LA
04-16-2003, 11:12 AM
Any guy in the gym- "Hey, I'm on all this juice and I'm not gaining weight?"

Answer (Correct 99.99% of the time)- "You're not eating enough"

Any guy- "But I eat all the time!"

Answer- "Do you write down what you eat?"

Any guy- "No, but I'm stuffed"

Answer- "Write down what you eat, you're not eating enough"

Well, you get the idea. A guy at my gym swore he couldn't gain weight but was eating enough and was filled all the time". I told him to add 5 tablespoons of olive oil to his diet, ed. He thought that was cheating and looked at me funny. Go figure.

BTW: 1/2 ml of tren is probably 37.5mg. And 37.5 mg of tren isn't a ton.

skwood
04-16-2003, 01:52 PM
I agree with LA. The tren could be upped & up the calories...

Armageddon
04-17-2003, 02:34 AM
37.5 isn't alot of anything but it's a steady blood level on an everyday basis, which is good. But from the sounds of things until we hear different I'd bet this stale mate is from not enough food.

rippedchef
04-17-2003, 09:06 AM
write down everything you stuff into the ol' pie hole for 3 days and add up the cals-4500-5k cals a day are a bitch to eat!!!

ArnoldsNovice
04-17-2003, 11:09 AM
OK sorry i took so long to get back, my diet is pretty good i'm def consuming around 4-5k a day 400grams of protein a day for sure. And i train 6 days a week 2 body parts a day except wed and sat which is just legs. I'll eat some more and see what happens.
thanks for the advice I'll let you know where i'm at in a week.

DADDY48
04-17-2003, 12:37 PM
OVER TRAINING BRO. UNLESS YOU HAVE GREAT RECOUPING ABILITIES. CNS IS PROB. SHOT IF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THAT SCHEDULE FOR A WHILE. I DID THE SAME EXACT THING FOR 2 YEARS.ALSO GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF A GIVEN DAYS DIET. MEAL PER MEAL. YOU REALLY SHOULD WRITE DOWN WHAT YOU EAT. IT'S ANNOYING, BUT WORTH IT UNTIL YOU LEARN HOW MUCH OF WHAT NUTRIENTS YOUR BODY NEEDS TO GROW.DIET PERFECTION IS HIGHLY INDIVIDUALIZED AND IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR

LA
04-17-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by ArnoldsNovice
OK sorry i took so long to get back, my diet is pretty good i'm def consuming around 4-5k a day 400grams of protein a day for sure. And i train 6 days a week 2 body parts a day except wed and sat which is just legs. I'll eat some more and see what happens.
thanks for the advice I'll let you know where i'm at in a week.

Overtraining is a definite possibility! However, do eat more. If all your gear was junk you still should be putting on weight- less muscle (but still gaining muscle) but more fat. That's what would happen to a natural if he raised calories too much while bulking.

How many calories were you eating before you started bulking? It's not how many calories consummed, but rather how many calories over maintenance consummed. Good luck!