Is 1-ad considered a steroid now?

Ok I don't know how many of you guys have done 1-ad but I have and ne-ways I noticed that 1-ad is in the process of getting banned by the FDA under grounds that it is an anabolic steroid... Even though when you take it it's not, but once it gets into your body it turns into T3 or 1-test i believe...

so my question is this... if 1-ad is banned, then do I consider myself still all natural even though I've done 1-ad... or am I a juice head now... ?

Also I stacked 1-ad a transdermal, Andro Spray from Ergopharms... and got great gains but.. transdermals are now illegal...

No matter if this gets made illegal under some technicallity, there is a world of difference between 1-AD & steriods, I would say your still natural.

Yes, You better turn yourself into the police now. lol

The thing that is stupid is the fact that they are making all these prohormones illegal. These prohormones are not actual steroids however and do not cause damage like other stronger steroids can. I.E. Dbol, Drol, Halo, etc.

Then again I have never seen any research regarding lipid profiles, b/p, or liver enzymes while on any of these. If there is research regarding these issues and if these compounds do not affect these very much then I believe there is no reason to ban them.

I'm really starting to hate the way the US is going. Privacy is down the drain, most personal freedoms are down the drain...it just leaves the question to what's next?

I wont be surprised if they will soon make any supliments illegal. ECA I'm sure will be illegal soon. I'm sure T3...Liquidex...Clen. will soon be illegal to sell as research chemicals. People have given power to these officials to take everything away from us if they don't see it their way. The don't have medical degrees...they don't know the research, but they will be the first to ban it, because they don't know anything about it.

When you say clen... do u mean clenbutrix by VPX?

Yeah I totally agree on the whole nation being super paranoid about ephedrine and prohoromones...

Just yesterday I was talking to this girl at my University, and she is a nutrition major... I told her I was taking an ECA which contained ephedrine and she almost jumped out of her seat saying that ephedrine can kill you...

ephedrine.. can KILL?? wtf...

I assured her I know what I'm doing, but she was insistent on trying to make me "quit".. like i'm taking cocaine or something..

Apparently, they are teacher her that ephedrine is "bad" for your body in her nutritions course...

I mean yeah, the media is saying that ephedrine caused those 3 deaths in the past year... but what the media fails to mention is that 2 of the 3 deaths were from heart problems... and of those two, they had heart problems throughout their families.. but yet they blame ephedrine becuase they have ephedrine in their blood system.. regardless of the heart problems in their families... I mean wtf is that?

Clenbuterol

The stuff you're talking about sounds like a rip of clenbuterol. Its most likely a ECA or NYC stack.

Clenbuterol is an asthma drug that atheletes use for losing body weight. There is a ton of information on it around here. Just search for it...

did the search and still can't find a good site which sells it... researchkits sell liquid clen... but anyone got a good link for clen tabs?..

UCDFuBoO said:

Ok I don't know how many of you guys have done 1-ad but I have and ne-ways I noticed that 1-ad is in the process of getting banned by the FDA under grounds that it is an anabolic steroid... Even though when you take it it's not, but once it gets into your body it turns into T3 or 1-test i believe...

so my question is this... if 1-ad is banned, then do I consider myself still all natural even though I've done 1-ad... or am I a juice head now... ?

Also I stacked 1-ad a transdermal, Andro Spray from Ergopharms... and got great gains but.. transdermals are now illegal...

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Hmm... I would still consider you a natural and I'm going to leave it there without going into the stupidity of prohormones. Just one more thing- your wallet will feel much heavier now.

When you say clen... do u mean clenbutrix by VPX?

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You've got to stop reading the ads in muscle mags! Do it now! Don't read the routines of pro's either. Put the magazine down! The Letters To Penthouse stand a better chance to be real than either of the above!

Yeah...I could care less about prohormones for the most part. They don't work very well anyways. Real steroids are cheaper, and work about 50 times better.

but...with stuff like prohormones getting banned its just an overall bad thing for the BB community.

UCD - I told you to use the search function. Top right hand corner, bro. BTW Researchkits is a good place to buy it. Liquid clen works very well.

Re: Re: Is 1-ad considered a steroid now?

You've got to stop reading the ads in muscle mags! Do it now! Don't read the routines of pro's either. Put the magazine down! The Letters To Penthouse stand a better chance to be real than either of the above! [/B][/QUOTE]

I don't know where your comming from... I think my question was a legitimate question... but for your info I'm getting my info not from magazines but rather from other forums...I was wondering if anyone has had good results from this stuff here...

Here's a thread in which they praise clenbutrix...

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=229299


Here's another one where they got good results from it
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=229072&highlight=Clenbutrx

Here's one more for u LA
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=218595&highlight=Clenbutrx

Don't make assumptions if u are going to flame me...

Sorry UCDFuBoO, no flame intended!

Clenbutrix by VPX I believe is just another ECA stack. No better or worse than any other except maybe 2 things- 1 the price and 2 the name. If someone is using a name that is a "sounds like" version of a name of a steroid alarms go off in my head. In this case they are using the name of a cutting agent that isn't approved by the good old fda. If it were it would be a prescription drug. Their name is intended to rip off people who don't know the difference.

Sorry you took my comments the wrong way. What really pisses me off about bodybuilding are the supplement companies trying to scam (yes, scam there is no other word for it) the young and/or inexperienced to this sport. I admit I was taken for several hundreds of dollars on prohormones and I'm sure a lot of good bros here were too.

As far as I know of there isn't a natural federation out there that would allow you to take clen.

I sorry we've gotten off on the wrong foot here, but if you could have heard me say the words I wrote (voice inflection) instead of just reading them you would have known I wasn't "flaming" you.

I too am sorry for takign what you said personally... no harm intended... no harm done... I am a little defensive that's why... Even though I've been a member of this board for a while, I have not posted a lot so a lot of times people flame me and call me a new this and that...because I haven't built the respect I used to have at FB... So I'm really defensive on that...

but as far as clenbuterol is concerned... so from what u just posted.. I'm assuming that it's illegal to get clenbuteral? I'll have to get a good "source" for that?

and also I have done one cycle of prohoromones and I'll have to say it was money well spent... I did a 24 day cycle of 1-ad stacked with Andro Spray and I had really good results...

gained a good 15 lbs of solid muscle and on top of that my strength went through the roof... only costed me 120 bucks...

you may not like prohoromones.. but I personally do...

but to each his own bro..