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Bigbizkit
04-24-2003, 03:02 PM
Just want to get a ballpark figure as to how much I expect to gain on the following cycle based on your experiance.

500 test enath./week 1-10
450 deca/week 1-10
100 prop/ed 1-4

I have gained 7 lbs in the last 9 days.

dedprez*
04-24-2003, 03:04 PM
10-20.....but is also on how much u eat and train...AS is only one part of the puzzle....there are others

Bigbizkit
04-24-2003, 03:07 PM
I eat close to 4000 cal a day.

BLEED GREEN
04-24-2003, 03:11 PM
What are your current stats?

How many previous cycles?

Bigbizkit
04-24-2003, 03:14 PM
5' 6" 196lbs
13-14% bf

This is my first big cycle using this much gear. Biggest one before this was d-bol 40mg a day weeks 1-4 and test enan. 500 a week 1-5. Gained 12 pounds.

gymrat
04-24-2003, 03:48 PM
you can gain 10-20 lbs of this cycle.

superman1975
04-24-2003, 04:02 PM
i would say 20 minimum with that if you keep getting that many calories

Choke03
04-24-2003, 05:03 PM
10 to 20. Eat a ton, rest hard.

LA
04-24-2003, 05:04 PM
Your question should read, "How much muscle can I gain on this cycle?".

Any anti-e's in there? If not you are going to be disappointed with this cycle. 13-14% bf is on the high end without a STRONG dose on anti-e's.

With a higher bf% you make more aromotise (sp?), thus converting more of that test and deca (yes, deca converts although not nearly the rate that test does) to estrogen. And as you know, estrogen likes to layer on the bodyfat. 7 lbs in 9 days is a warning sign. The first thing estrogen does is retain water.

Hope you are doing cardio too.

Good Luck with the cycle- LA

Bigbizkit
04-24-2003, 06:09 PM
Thaks for your informative advice LA. I don't look puffy or smooth so I am assuming that I am not retaining a lot of water. I do look a bit leaner than I did last week so I am thinking that bf% has gone down a bit. I don't tend to get fat when I'm on a cylce so I'm hoping body fat will drop to atleast 10% and minimize the aromatization.

BLEED GREEN
04-25-2003, 08:48 AM
bump for PITA