Tren

jaywooly · May 1, 2003

I'm hearing all of these damn scare stories about tren. You lose you hair, you'll get gyno big time, etc.

Some post good things about tren, like, "it's the best!"

I guess what my question is, what can you take that will decrease your chances of getting gyno with tren? I hear bromo might not even be usefull in this matter?

Jeez, on week #2 of my Profina and I love it - but I don't want bitch tits like Presser! (Actually Presser, I feel for you big time - sorry to use your name in this manner)

The hair, shoot, I'll try Rogaine and Propecia and Viagra if I need to (the latter just for my personal pleasure).

I'm mostly worried about a costly surgery that would kinda give me away.

Please, any thoughts

Max-HC · May 1, 2003

Everybodys diffrent ive done 5 cycles of tren NP no hair loss
or gyno,and just finshed a 12wk profina a month ago and getting ready for another 12wker profina & winnie this time.
I throw in .5mg liquidex eod.Good luck hope it works out for you...

jaywooly · May 1, 2003

Thank you for that Max-HC.

For those of you who have said "no side effects" what were you taking in terms of anti-e's?

MacGyver · May 2, 2003

If you start experiencing gyno on fina, just stop!!!!!!!!!! It's out of your sytem very quickly.

Skip · May 2, 2003

jaywooly said:
For those of you who have said "no side effects" what were you taking in terms of anti-e's?

Ineffective for tren. Anti Es won't make any difference.

Skip

jaywooly · May 2, 2003

That's what I thought Skip. So then, if someone is taking an ONLY Fina cycle, he does not need to spend money on anti-e's?

And yes MacGyver, if I see any signs I will stop immediatley. I sure as hell hope I'm not one of those prone guys, I love my Profina!

viper10139 · May 2, 2003

I will be running fina in June I hope that I don't have any problems with Fina!!

madchemist36 · May 2, 2003

jaywooly said:
Thank you for that Max-HC.

For those of you who have said "no side effects" what were you taking in terms of anti-e's?

the anite's aint gonna do shit.

Skip · May 2, 2003

jaywooly said:
That's what I thought Skip. So then, if someone is taking an ONLY Fina cycle, he does not need to spend money on anti-e's?

Correct - he needs to spend that money on test instead. lol

I am adamant that test should be included in every cycle whether cutting or bulking. Of course, I don't believe in coming off of test but that is another thread entirely.

Skip

jaywooly · May 2, 2003

Good luck with that Viper. Hope things work well for you. Good shit, no negatives so far and I'm going on week #3 (knock on wood).

MC36, what week did you start noticing gyno with your Fina? I heard someone say around week #6 for them...

Kiss · May 3, 2003

Jay, the gyno and hairloss have strong genetic components associated with them. If you run the tren at 75mg/day you should have no gyno symptoms. I would have bromo and winstrol on hand. If in the unlikely event you get gyno symptoms from fina take 50mg winny/ED or EOD, this should help. You could also try taking 1.25mg bromo split in 2 doses ED. If worst comes to worst, as mentioned earlier, just stop the tren, it has a short half life.

As-far-as the hair loss issue, get yourself a bottle of 5% spiro solution from Nizoral man. The spiro is a potent DHT blocker and will help.

Some people do have some bad experiences with Fina, however I think most don't, just be careful. I personally love tren.

jaywooly · May 3, 2003

Very good post Kiss, a whole lot of info there.

The best part of what you said, "take 50mg winny /ED or EOD, this should help."

Gotta love taking more gear for a reason other than muscle growth! I have planned to take winny weeks 7-12 25mg/ED. But if you say 50, why the hell not? lol

bigshug · May 3, 2003

Fina's good stuff IMO, strength gains are freakin' unbelievable.....and I'd definitely stack it with test, don't want yer 'lil soldier to fail to stand at attention

Kiss · May 3, 2003

Glad I could help...:thumbsup:

Harvey Balboner · May 3, 2003

Hair is all genetic, if your loosing it already fina will just make it worse.

As far as gyno from fina, it only effects very, very few people as opposed to those who can take it with no problem.

Bromo will help, but it is very powerful, and not to be taken lightly. It is not even necessary for most people.

winneevee · May 4, 2003

FIINNNNAAAAA!!

madchemist36 · May 4, 2003

of course the hair loss thing is genetic but still even if u are not meant to loose hair genetically and u are bombing on fina u can loose your hair. its like people who cannot grow naturally take gh and other juices and get big, so same thing if u aint gonna loose your hair naturally u will loose your hair when there is too much dht.

i hope this makes sense

BiggerStronger · May 4, 2003

True Mad. Is there any evidence of progesterone induced gynomastia? I have seen some research on estrogen that is increased(excited) due to high progesterone levels. If that's the case then bromo would have little effect on treating gyno caused by progesterone and if you run liquidex or nolva during your cycle you should not get gyno.

poopoo · May 4, 2003

interesting biggerstronger. can u post those articles please?

BiggerStronger · May 5, 2003

I'll see if I can find them poo poo.

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