aitkens diet

mcnasty75

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do you think if you get on aikens diet which is all protein and hardly any carbs and you are on a bulking cycle of sust you would still get as big but it would burn all the fat off you or you wouldnt get as big if you went on the diet??
 
You need fat and carbs for bulk. I use the anabolic review diet when bulking, works well.
 
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An insufficient nutrition is often the reason why the athlete does not make any progress. What is the use of the best training, the intake of steroids, and sufficiently long rest periods if the body does not have the right nutrients in a sufficient amount- Eberhard Schneider in his book Krafttraining für Kung-Fu und Karate said it to the point: "Just as a skyscraper cannot be built of loam it is impossible to develop a strong muscle system on a diet of beer and pizza." Intensively training bodybuilders have a distinctly higher need of nutrients which increases even further when simultaneously taking steroids. The right nutrition tremendously increases the effect of every steroid regime because steroids develop their full effect only when adequate calories and nutrients are supplied. A nutrition program suitable for this purpose must meet four basic requirements:

1.) Sufficient intake of high-quality protein: The protein intake is the decisive factor when gaining weight since protein is the building block for the muscle tissue. Of special importance is the combination of the supplied protein. Animal protein is in first place because of its high biological value and a high content of essential amino acids. The protein absorbed by the body through food is broken down into amino acids and transported through the blood to the muscle cell. The goal is to obtain a positive nitrogen balance in the muscle cell which means that it assimilates more protein than it releases. Best sources are meat, fish, poultry, eggs, and milk products. The required daily amount depends on the body weight. A supply of 1- 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight/day is usually effective. A bodybuilder weighing 200 pounds thus needs 250 g of protein per day. Since one gram of protein has an energy value of 4.1 kcal the athlete consumes 1,000 kcal per day in form of protein.

2.) Sufficient supply of complex carbohydrates: The importance of complex carbohydrates in the nutrition schedule of a bodybuilder cannot be emphasized often enough. They provide a continuous energy supply which is very important to maintain the blood sugar level at a constant level, prevent that protein is transformed into energy, and are an important factor during the burning of fat. Preferred sources are rice, oats, whole wheat bread, noodles, and vegetables. The total daily amount of carbohydrates should be around 800-900 g, which corresponds to an energy value of 4.1 kcal per gram of a daily caloric-intake of 3,200 to 3,600 only for carbohydrates. 85% are best taken in form of complex carbohydrates, the remaining 15% as simply carbohydrates, mostly fruit.

3.) Sufficient supply of calories: Bodybuilder who work out daily and cat only 2,000 to 3,000 kcal per day should not wonder when they do not obtain any sizable gains. If you have ever watched a massive bodybuilder taking steroids during his buildup phase you will know that eating a pound of steak, 4 large potatoes, and a bowl of salad together with a protein drink is nothing unusual "To get big, you have to cat big" is a favorite slogan among massive bodybuilders. Those who are healthy, have a normal metabolism, follow a hard and heavy training schedule, want to build up mass, and take steroids, will usually come closer to their goal when eating approx. 5,000 calories per day.

4.) Eat according to the clock: This point is most often neglected because it requires a high degree of discipline, motivation, and long range planning. The human being is a "creature of habit" and the body loves regular schedules. It is highly recommended to put together a nutrition plan which fits your daily schedule and to follow through without compromise. Eat several meals a day, possibly 5-6 and always at the same time. No matter whether or not you are hungry, traveling, at work or with friends, at five o clock you should know that it is time for your fifth meal, so EAT. Regular meals in short intervals induce the body to continuously release insulin. This is extremely important since insulin transports amino acids to the muscle cell and the body is in an anabolic state. Irregular meals, skipping a meal, fewer large meals are totally counterproductive.

In the following we give you an example of a daily schedule which meets the above mentioned requirements. This nutrition program is obviously only intended as a guideline and can be changed by athletes in every way to meet his individual needs, as long as the discussed requirements are met.


P CH F kcal
First meal, 7 am:
8 oz. oatmeal 25 155 18 880
0.6 1 skim milk, 0.3% fat 21 29 2 240
0.2 1 orange juice --- 18 --- 80
3 oz. grapes 1 17 --- 70
47 219 20 1270
Second meal, 10.30 am:
10 oz, whole wheat bread 18 120 6 600
4 oz. cheese, 12% fat 22 5 10 200
0.51 kefir milk 20 20 4
1 banana 1 35 ---150
61 180 20 1150
Third meal, 2.00 pm:
8 oz. brown rice 22 170 6 850
10 oz. turkey 60 --- 5 300
5 oz. vegetables 1 7 --- 30
93 177 11 1180
Fourth meal, 5.30 pm
5 whole eggs 30 --- 30 400
16 Oz. baked potatoes 10 100 5 430
Mixed salad 1 10 ---50
41 110 35 880
Fifth meal, 9,00 pm:
7 oz. cottage cheese 25 5 4 200
7 Oz. whole wheat bread 12 80 4 400
1 oz. peanut buffer 6 3 10 120
1 apple, approx. 4 oz. --- 14 --- 60
0.2 1 orange juice --- 18 --- 80
43 120 18 860
Total: 285 806 104 5340


Note: Since meal number two and three are taken at work we recommend that you prepare them the night before, keep them in a cooler, and take them to work.

The effectiveness of this nutrition program and the indicated guidelines are based on two necessary basic requirements: MOTIVATION AND DISCIPLINE. This really shows how strong your desire really is to build strength and muscle mass and how much you are willing to do to achieve this goal. You must simply be convinced that in combination with a consequent, right nutrition optimal and quickest progress can be made. Get enthusiastic about a high?quality and often monotonous nutrition: If the spark and willpower are not there, the program is often carried out for two to three weeks and in the following the athlete goes back to his old comfortable eating habits. Bodybuilders with a clear goal before their eyes, an enormous willpower, a strong psyche, a great deal of enthusiasm, and a small tendency to masochism continue this schedule over months and even years. Always keep in mind: Your results are the mirror image of your hard work.
 
Like I have said time & time before. You are not going to gain any muscle without enough protien & calories to support it. Adkins diet is for cutting not bulking. Carbs make your body produce insulin which is needed to grow, so keep them in your diet while bulking.
 
Here is my opinion on the matter:

Are carbs absolutely necessary for increasing Lean Muscle Mass? NO.

Can one increase there Lean Muscle Mass without carbs? YES, I have done so.

Is bulking without carbs a good idea? NO, it is not nearly as efficient as bulking with carbs. No comparison.

SO i say that it is not NECESSARY, but is definitely a good idea to eat carbs when bulking.

I have these opinions because I did the BODYOPUS diet by dan duchaine for and lost tons of fat while increasing my LBM.

Was I on juice when I did so? YES, alot of juice and t3.

I would never try to bulk on a ketogenic diet though. My goal was to lose bf and maintain muscle when I did this, but I happenned to increase my lbm.

The best thing to do is bulk and cut rather than try to do both at the same time. It works somewhat (if you are lucky) but is very inefficient and you'll be sorta spinning your wheels if you try to do so.

Oh, I did eat carbs on saturdays and half of sundays, so 1.5 days a week while doign so but I was in full ketosis 5+ days a week.
 
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Also this was during my 2nd cycle I think when juice used to do wonders for me. I think now if I wasn't on gh/slin and tried to do a ketogenic diet with AS alone it would be impossible for me to gain LBM.
 
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