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mcnasty75
05-07-2003, 07:58 PM
how important is asperating while giving injections? why?

scorpio
05-07-2003, 08:19 PM
Very important. You don't want to inject oil base steroids into a vein, the results are not health friendly.

mcnasty75
05-07-2003, 08:23 PM
do you have to asperate if shooting into your glutes? after you shoot do you pull the plunger back and if you see blood pull out and try again?

WeirdAl
05-07-2003, 08:31 PM
Yes, and yes

Loch Ness
05-07-2003, 08:31 PM
yes even aspirate when doing glutes, stick up out you want to see bubbles and shoot. If blood appears simply try another spot

Badgermoon
05-07-2003, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by mcnasty75
do you have to asperate if shooting into your glutes? after you shoot do you pull the plunger back and if you see blood pull out and try again?
If you aspirate (draw back on the syringe plunger) after you shoot the juice into yourself, you have not aspirated. Before you inject the liquid, you aspitate, and make sure you see no blood. Then inject. make sure you're straight on this before you attempt to inject anything.

scorpio
05-07-2003, 09:06 PM
Good point Badge, Ok so there is no confusion on what to do.

Injection Info
There are a few steps you should always take when first learning to inject anabolic steroids. The most important thing to keep in mind is that you must always be clean and very sanitary. Always use new syringes that are in sealed packaging. Never use a syringe that has been used before, either by you or especially by another person. Make sure that the area that you will be injecting is clean and is in the correct location (read injection sites) to prevent injury. Take your new syringe out of its packaging and if there is a protective covering on the needle turn it tight to insure that the needle is firmly secured to the syringe. With an alcohol filled cotton swab wipe the top of your bottle (if you are withdrawing from one) to insure it is sterile. Take the plastic sheath off the needle and draw about 2cc of air into the syringe. Insert the syringe and push the air into the bottle. This makes it easier to withdraw the oil based liquid. Turn your bottle upside-down and withdraw the amount that you want plus just a little extra. Now, flick the side of the syringe to get all of the air bubbles to the top and inject the extra amount you took back into the bottle. Withdraw the syringe and pull back about 1/4cc of air and then remove the needle. From a new syringe take the needle off of it and place it on the syringe that you have your liquid in. This will give you a new, undulled needle. Inserting it through the top of your bottle will have dulled your previous needle. With another alcohol filled cotton swab wipe the injection site. Unsheathe your tightened needle making sure not to touch it to anything (this will unsterilize your needle and can cause severe problems with infection). Hold your syringe upright and push in the stopper slowly until all of the air in the syringe has been forced out. If some liquid trickles down the needle that is O.K., do not touch or wipe it. That will help in lubricating the injection site. Now, hold the syringe like a dart and at a 90-degree angle insert the clean new needle deep into the muscle. Once the needle is all the way into the muscle, pull back on the plunger to check if blood enters the syringe. If this happens it means that you have entered a blood vessel and that you need to withdraw and try again. Withdraw the needle from the buttocks and push the blood out of the syringe. Then replace the tip to ensure that the blood is not hidden in the tip of the needle. If there is not blood present, press the stopper in slowly (to prevent soreness) until all of the liquid has been injected. Lastly, remove the needle quickly and with another cotton swab apply pressure and gently massage the injection site (this will help with bleeding and also eliminate some discomfort in the following days). Try not to inject more than 2 cc's at one time and no more than twice a week in the same injection site. Place the plastic sheathe back on the needle and discard the entire syringe. Try not to inject more than 2 cc's at one time and no more than twice a week in the same injection site. Remember: DO NOT USE SYRINGE OR NEEDLE AGAIN
WHERE TO INJECT

Anabolic steroids, both oil and water based need to be injected intramuscularly (deep into muscle tissue). The most common place for intramuscular injections are in the buttocks, outer side of the thigh, and in the deltoid region of the arm. These muscles are preferred by many because of their thickness. These sites have a large number of muscle fibers and extensive fascia. Fascia is a type of connective tissue that surrounds and separates muscles. Because of this, the steroid or liquid being injected has a large surface area and a vast blood supply, which is better for absorption. When injecting, the goal is to go deep into the muscle tissue WITHOUT hitting major nerves and blood vessels. The best site for injecting is in the gluteus medius located in the upper outer area of the buttocks. The upper outer area is elected because the muscle in this area is very thick and has only a few nerves. In this area it is not likely that you will hit a blood vessel and the chances of injury to the sciatic nerve. This nerve runs through the lower and middle area of the buttock. If this nerve is hit, you may be temporarily paralyzed and it is very painful. You will want to stay as far away from the sciatic nerve as possible.


CHOOSING PROPER SYRINGE

Choosing the proper syringe is very important. First, you will want a syringe that will hold the desired amount of liquid. The liquid is measured in cc's. Second, you need to have needles that will penetrate deep enough into the muscle for optimum absorption. And lastly, you will need a syringe that is wide enough to deliver the fluid, but also thin enough not to hurt. The thickness of the needles is measured in gauges. An 18" gauge is much larger than a 22" or 23" gauge. Obviously the lower the gauge the wider the needle. There are many different sizes of syringe. You will find that some hold more fluid than others do and as mentioned some you will find are bigger and longer. The most favored size would be a 22" gauge with a 1.5" length (this is the most common for injections administered into the buttocks). 1" needles are usually preferred when going into the thigh or deltoid. If you are confused about this, call a pharmacist and ask them to help. In most cases they will.

scorpio
05-07-2003, 09:06 PM
www.spotinjections.com

Geaux4Tigers
05-07-2003, 09:46 PM
I think you got the picture. Most people don't understand that seeing blood when you asperate doesn't happen very often, so they feel they are not doing it right. You just have to pull back very lightly and you should either see tiny bubbles or tiny drops of blood. If you see blood, pull out and try again. I have done at least 1000 injections and only seen blood once while asperating. Be safe!

BiggerStronger
05-07-2003, 11:23 PM
I have hit veins in my glutes twice and I've only shot my glutes like 5 times total. I've hit my quads about 40 times and only hit a vein 1 time. So you never know. Always aspirate!

japan69
05-08-2003, 12:10 AM
Out of the hundred plus shots into my gluts and quads... I have drawn back and gotten blood probably 5-6 times. Was no biggie. I changed needles, whiped down with alcohol again, re-stuck in a different place and repeated.

But... twice I have done this.
1. Insert pin into muscle.
2. Aspirate - get air bubbles.
3. push down on plunger to inject
4. midway through I see blood inside the syringe.

Weird, eh? I didn't noticeably move deeper or shallower into the muscle. I always try to keep the pin rock steady. I actually just kept injecting and I was fine.

But... what happens if you were to actually inject right into a vein?

I'm sure this is dependent on what juice you are injecting... but say... test or deca? what would likely happen?

Just curious if anyone has done this or has heard of what happend to someone who did.

thanks!

-j69

Badgermoon
05-08-2003, 12:50 AM
I read an account on another board some time ago of a guy injecting into a vein. he said his heart rate went up, felt dizzy/feinted. As the oil hit his lungs he began to cough uncontrolably and felt trouble breathing. he described it as feeling like he was going to die. I don't know if it will kill you or not but it sounds like it comes close if it doesn't.

I always aspirate. :)

japan69
05-08-2003, 01:25 AM
thanks for the info. i always aspirate too... but as i said i had 2 incidences of blood seeping in when i was midway thru injecting.

As for that dude's account... that's pretty similar to when I was in the hospital getting a cat scan and they gave me a barium IV. YOWZA! That sucked. heart went wild, chest clamped up, couldn't breath and thought I was gonna die.

But, what do you expect shooting toxic chemicals into your veins?

-j69

bigshug
05-08-2003, 07:08 AM
Scorpio, you stole my response!! LOL.......I always get here too late