First Cycle For A 250lb Guy-What Do You Suggest???

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Texas_Ranger

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Guys, I'm looking for some advice. I've been researching for a year and have heard Conservative (Test@250mgs & EQ/Deca@300mgs) and Extreme recommendations(Test@1000-750mgs, EQ/Deca@400mgs, and 40mgs a day). I'm definitely not going that route because I know I don't need it. My goal is to retain 15-20lbs of Lean, Quality with low water retention post cycle without going overboard with doses. I have access to all the basics(Test Enanthate, EQ, Deca, Dbol, Arimidex, Clomid, Nolvadex, etc...). Here are my stats- I'm 28 years old, 6'4" 245-250lbs with 9-10% bodyfat. I've been working out for 9 years, the last 3 religiously.  I'm looking for something simple, yet VERY effective. So, what would you recommend? Thanks for your help!!!
 
500mg test ew, with arimidex.. clomid post cycle and nolva just in case..
simple yet effective .. gotta love test...

tiny
 
sounds like you have a really nice base to work from.  I'd agree with TIny on the 500test, but I'd add either the EQ or the deca at 400.  Forget the dbol, IMO it's not worth the sides, especially if you're subject to bloating.  I like the EQ as a personal fav.
 
you could take tiny's 500mg of test and drop in some deca at 400mg.. always want to run a little less deca that test.. no deca dick that way and if you got the cash winny @50mg ed for the last 5 weeks of your cycle would be cool..

are you a texas ranger??
 
i don't see the reason for stacking test @ 500mg ew with anything else this beeing he's first cycle and all ... maybe winny towards the end.. but i really think test only will be more then enough...

tiny
 
The 500mg test and 400mg deca or Eq is usually a good place to start bro. You might think about adding 30mg of Dbol for the first 4 weeks to get it kicked off also. It will add some immediate strength and a little fluid into your muscles. Your diet is going to be the most important thing in the success of your cycle though. So be sure to spend as much time, if not more, planning your meals as you did planning your cycle. Diet is 75% of BBing!!! Later
 
Thanks for replying, fellas! I feel at home already!! :D Gear 101, no bro I'm not a Ranger. I just like the handle.(LOL!) Napalm1, I have a diet plan that comes out to 6,000-6,500 calories and 450-500 grams of Protein a day spread over 7-8 meals and shakes. I plan on using 1.5mg of Pizotifen a day to REALLY increase my appetite through out the cycle. It'll also help with getting enough ZZZ's.
 
Which one looks better? 1)Test Enanthate@500mgs for 10 weeks? Or 2)Test Enanthate@500mgs for 10 weeks and EQ@400mgs for 9 weeks? Is the Dbol REALLY necessary for a FIRST cycle? I'm hoping to maintain 20lbs of Quality Muscle post cycle, which will be based MORE on diet, than gear. What do you think?
 
I would stay away from the dbol, and run your test @ 500mg EW, and then run winny @ 50mg EW for the last 4-5 weeks.  Then run amridex @ .25 mg EOD.
 
i think youre big enough as it is Ranger, unless youre lying about your BF..... maybe steroids arent a good idea....we dont need 6'4'' 250lbs guys roid raging on the streets......
 
Wilknights, nah man my bodyfat's accurate. I had it done by a personal trainer at the gym last week. Winnie, I like your idea. Maybe, I'll try it next cycle when I want to drop a little bodyfat. I want to commit myself to gaining as much as I possible can, so I can maintain 20lbs post cycle. Even though, the Test/Deca combo will help me gain a little more mass,  it will also make me hold more water than I care to. The Test/EQ cycle is for me, the EQ will help with my appetite while keeping me hard and vascular. What more could you ask for??
 
Hye bro i am about the same size as you but shorter.. i am about to start my first cycle next week and this is how it goes.... 1000mg omndren250 a week.. 35 mg d-bol ed... with 1mg liquidex eod and clomid post cycle..... very simple but very effective i think.
 
Whew!! Benchboy, that seems like ALOT of gear for a FIRST cycle? I think I'll go to the conservative route and try the Test/EQ combo for my first cycle. Rethink your cycle, brother. You can add more later.
 
I think I'll go ahead and stick with the Test Enanthate@500mgs(Testoviron) and EQ@400mgs(Quality Vet) combo for my first cycle. After reading Dan Duchaine's article, this should be more than enough to reach my goal of retaining 15-20lbs post cycle. Plus, the EQ will keep me hard and vascular while gaining. It'll also give me a killer appetite!! There's 2 guys from another board that gained over 30lbs doing this combo their first time out. With none of the bloating  and sexual side effects that's associated with Deca. :(
 
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