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highside
03-21-2002, 08:30 PM
I am comming off a 10 weeks cycle.  I will start clomid in a week.  I am already feeling tired faster.  I have not lost any strength.  I just dont feel as pumped to go workout and tire out faster.  I want to take something for energy but something that is not to strong so that it will not burn muscle off.  What can I take.  Is xenadrine or stacker 2 two strong.

Wish_I_was_big
03-21-2002, 10:06 PM
Haven't had a chance to do a cycle yet, but just normally if I need an extra pump in the gym I pop a couple xenadrine and I'm good to go.

highside
03-21-2002, 10:39 PM
Presser, what brand ECA or do you make your own.  What dosage do you take.

gymrat
03-22-2002, 10:11 AM
agree with Presser on this one.  My favorite was adipokinetex but haven't been able to find it anywhere since it got pulled by syntrax.

I just got a bottle of the NYC by anabolic fitness which has basically the same ingredients as the adipo.  I hope it works about the same.

tiny
03-22-2002, 10:15 AM
as a booster at the gym i take from 50-100mg ephedra/200mg caffein and a quarter of an aspirin.. (usually skip the aspirin...) 45-60 min. before workout..

tiny

tiny
03-22-2002, 10:23 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Presser+Mar. 22 2002,6:17--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Presser @ Mar. 22 2002,6:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->GEEZ BRO THATS ALOT OF EPHEDRINE,MY HEART WOULD STOP IF I TOOK THAT MUCH,[/quote]
lol.. well, i was like WTF when you wrote 25mg ephedra as a booster before the gym someplace ... i&#39;ve worked my way up to that amount though...

tiny

gymrat
03-22-2002, 11:04 AM
hey Presser and Tiny, just wondering why you guys elect to use ephedra rather than norepinephrine. &nbsp;Don&#39;t they have the same effect with a slightly lighter &#39;crash&#39; effect with using norepinephrine? &nbsp;I could be wrong though. &nbsp;I personally had better results with fat burning products that used norepinephrine instead of ephedra.

mbstrong
03-22-2002, 11:11 AM
I use extreme ripped force and when I really want to go all out I take a speed stack. :D Speed stack is some crazy shit though when you come down off of it it&#39;s like your coming off of coc. :D

tiny
03-22-2002, 11:29 AM
the ones i take is called ephedrine arsan .. comes in 50mg&#39;s... no reason i that one though... ephedra is illegal in norway so i take whatever i get ..

tiny

mbstrong
03-22-2002, 11:36 AM
Tiny, you should try those drinks I take.

Speed Stack: Power and Energy Formula

Ephedrine, Synephrine, and Caffeine

Speed Stack is a powerful Ma Haung (Ephedrine) / Zhi Shi (Synephrine)
drink, with zero sugar, zero aspartame, and only five calories.

This pre-workout drink is not for everyone. Speed Stack is formulated for athletes
who want better mental focus as well as those who want to mobilize body fat and glycogen for energy.

&#39;Speed Stack&#39; contains 24 mg of Ephedrine, 11 mg of Synephrine, 200 mg of Caffeine with only 5 calories and 1 grams of carbs (flavorings).

These ingredients, when combined, elicit a thermogenic response that can raise the daily energy expenditure. For high intensity training and calorie burning, &#39;Speed Stack&#39; utilizes Methylxanthines to work synergistically with Alpha and Beta Agonists Receptors (which are the metabolic spark plugs for intense energy production).

Speed Stack has 5 calories, 0 sugar, 0 aspartame, 1 carb, 0 fat. It contains 140mg of Potassium, 400mg of Ma Huang extract, 586mg of Zhi-Shi Extract, 198 mg of Caffeine, and 22mg of Guarana Extract. Speed Stack contains only 45 mg of Sodium (from water).



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tiny
03-22-2002, 11:55 AM
i doubt i&#39;d get my hands on it ... damn norwegian laws.. :angry: ..whats even more fuked up is the fact it&#39;s legal to use steroids.. WTF&#33;&#33;&#33;..

login_name
03-22-2002, 03:14 PM
sometimes i take andro extreme these little red caps, they fire me up. or i just drink a speed stack or an extreme ripped force.

NAPALM1
03-22-2002, 03:47 PM
I like Adipokinetix (if you can find it), Ripped fuel and Stacker 2. You might think of adding sweet potatoes to your daily diet also. Since I started eating them ED, I seem to have more energy and don&#39;t feel as tired during my workouts. later

enchantra
03-22-2002, 04:14 PM
Celestial Seasonings wellness tea.. Ginseng Energy and its caffeine free =0)

highside
03-22-2002, 11:52 PM
Shit. &nbsp;I got a bottle of stacker 2 today. &nbsp;I just took 1 pill before my workout. &nbsp;I have never taken ephedra or any diet pill. &nbsp;It works pretty good. &nbsp;I feel kinda like I did drugs. &nbsp;I want to make my own ECA. &nbsp;The only stuff I could find, which was a medicine had something else besides ephedra in it. &nbsp;I dont know what it was.

Ghost of Rock Hudson
03-23-2002, 10:27 AM
Xanax and a large turkey dinner.

JackedUpIFBB
03-25-2002, 12:21 AM
Try some ripped fuel extreme.