1st cycle,what u think?

stats -
Age-It Dont Matter
Weight-160ish
Training 2 1/2 years

debating over 2cycles dont know which to go with

Option#1

week1-10-Liquidex or Arimidex at .50mg EOD
week1-10 400mg TEST Enanthate (t200)
week1-10 400mg EQ (TT EQ)
week1-4 20mg DBOL
week12 Clomid Theraphy starts

Option#2
week1-10-Liquidex or Arimidex at .50mg EOD
week1-10 400mg TEST Enanthate (t200)
week1-10 400mg EQ (TT EQ)
week12 Clomid Theraphy starts

Question
If i go with Option #1 how much ALA or Milk thristle i need a day,cranberry extract for the kidneys? how much i need in that also? another question is am i good with the .50mg arimidex/liquidex depending whaeva i get at EOD?????
do you think the DBOL is to much on a 1st cycle?

how old are you doof .. and how many boards are you a member of ...

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another question with the DBOL the strength gains i noticed within the 1st week?

what r your goals??what is your diet and bf% like??not exactly sure on the ari or liqui.

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people need to realize that AS is not a miracle pill or drug....!! u still must owkr hard..train hard...eat BIG and then once u r off then u STILL MUST DO THE SAME THING!!...it is not a quick fix or an easy way out...what is the difference if u c strength gains in the first week or not...y cant it b the 2nd week??

Milk thistle, I take 1200mg a day which I get at GNC and the cranberry is at 2,000mg.

I would go with option #1. I like Dbol more than Presser does, lol. I use 1100 mgs Milk THistle ED, half in the AM and half in the PM. 1000mg ALA, and 240mg Artichoke ED for my liver. I drink a glass of cranberry juice and take 5400 mg Saw palmetto for my kidneys ED 1/2 in the AM, and 1/2 in the PM. I would only use .25mg Arima EOD unless you have problems, then you can up the dose if needed. Later

IMO, bump the D-bol up to at least 25mg/ed.  I did 40mg and saw awesome strength gains, I just don't think 20mg will give you what you want.

CJ

saw palmetto is good for the prostate too...

holy crap i was just thinking about clomid therapy since eq is 17-21 after last shot monday +thursday = eq/test shots and thursday being last shots should i wait 3weeks instead of 2weeks because of the eq  cause test enanthate is 2weeks after last shot or should i do it in 2weeks from that thursday ?