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bodmin
04-02-2002, 12:04 AM
I used to squat religiously once a week, but lately even light squats hurt my back...It has gotten so bad that I'm almost giving up squating...but my legs are getting smaller. Are there any other things I can do to compensate? Please help.

Peace

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dedprez*
04-02-2002, 12:20 AM
plenty of things...y not try dumbell lunges...leg press..dumbell lunges...hack squats..dumbell lunges.....hope this helps.

po
04-02-2002, 01:01 AM
was going to ask the same question bodmin ive got the same prob man really pisses me off too let me know what you come up with on this one

bodmin
04-02-2002, 10:12 AM
[was going to ask the same question bodmin ive got the same prob man really pisses me off too let me know what you come up with on this one]

What I did yesterday was leg extentions with legpresses. One set leg extensions..immediately followed by leg presses. I did that five times. Leg presses for 20 reps. Then I did legcurls and stiffleg deads in the same fashion. Could hardly walk after that. Gonna try this for a few weeks. see if it works.

Let me know about your leg routine..

bodmin

Gear101*
04-02-2002, 10:17 AM
two 45&#39;s with the handle on them and lunges do them all the time &nbsp; <!--emo&GG--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/bigsmile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='GG'><!--endemo-->

mbstrong
04-02-2002, 10:31 AM
Not saying that you squat wrong bro but that could be the problem. &nbsp;Make sure that your knees are not coming past your toes. &nbsp;If they are that puts alot more pressure on your knees and your back. &nbsp;I see alot of guy&#39;s that squat wrong all the time. &nbsp;Also do you where a belt?

NAPALM1
04-02-2002, 11:44 AM
First off, if your back hurts, go see a Dr and make sure its not a herniated disc, or you are going to end up like me, and its no fun. Secondly, do not do lunges either. Lunges twist your back, in almost the same position as a squat, which could be worse than squats. Do seated leg presses, making sure your back is securely up against the back of the seat, then leg extensions, then hack squats with your legs together, and with a lighter weight. IN THAT ORDER. Hack squats are the same movement as a regular squat, but if you do them at the end of your training session, your legs will be tired and a lighter weight will be enough to burn them. I have been going through this for a year, and its hard to make your legs grow. But if you injure yourself further, they aren&#39;t going to grow at all whyen you are sitting on the couch at home. Later

celtics
04-02-2002, 11:56 AM
First NOTHING can replace the squat IMO. Well maybe if you are only a BB and not worried about strength. Second I agree 100% with mbstrong. Your chins should stay perpendicular to the floor(straight up as possable). You be cycling in Goodmornings. Changing out squats every couple weeks. Of coarse what Napalm said. If your injured stay far away for heavy squats and goodmornings. Hope it&#39;s not serious&#33;

tiny
04-02-2002, 12:12 PM
have you increased a shitload of weight in a short period of time .. ? ..and how does you&#39;re back routine look like..?

i had some fukedup pain in the back cause my upper-upper body was to developed(to much weight for it to handle)... so my lower back and lack of working out my stommack lead to the pain ...
just a thought..

tiny

NAPALM1
04-02-2002, 12:12 PM
Celtics is correct, nothing replaces squats. Some of us have no alternative, and cannot do them though. Squats are one of my favorite exercises, but I can not do them, period. Along with deadlifts (my favorite exercise), stiff legged dead lifts, good mornings, etc. Any exercise that places dirrect pressure on my lower back....I have to avoid, or I will be having surgery very soon to repair 2 herniated discs. It makes BBing a pain in the ass at times. Later

NAPALM1
04-02-2002, 12:14 PM
Tiny..who are you talking to???? Later

bodmin
04-02-2002, 12:26 PM
Thank you for all the replies...will keep that in mind.

bodmin

stumpy
04-02-2002, 03:42 PM
I am also a firm believer in squats and other power movements for adequate mass. &nbsp;I would say to strengthen the lower back so you can continue to squat. &nbsp;As stated earlier, try some good mornings, also include doing some hypers. Finally, you need to strengthen you abdominals, since these will help stabilize you lumbar spine supplemental to your lower back muscles, such as the serratus posterior.

highside
04-02-2002, 03:59 PM
I agree that there is nothing better for legs than squats. &nbsp;Try doing half squats for a while and see if it helps.

getripped
04-02-2002, 08:21 PM
I used to have the same problem but that was because I was impatient and dumb. I increased weight every week. Now I just use the same weight until I can perform easily before I tag on more plates. Also, are you using the right technique. Make sure you maintain a lordosis, look straight ahead and don&#39;t forward your back. That reduces compression and bending to your spine.

rico*
04-02-2002, 08:52 PM
for low back pain do reverse hyper extentions.

bodmin
04-02-2002, 11:29 PM
Didin&#39;t have time before to write more. Well, I do use proper form...head up..back straight. My lower back is quite strong..from deadlifts and hyper extensions. The problem I have is with my upper back..that&#39;s where it hurts. I have increased the weight a bit lately...maybe it&#39;s that. Anyway..I&#39;ll lay off the squats for a while...see what happens.
Thanx again for all the replies&#33;

bodmin

po
04-03-2002, 11:12 AM
thanks from me also for all the replies . my prob is its an old injury from football days of doing dead lifts being a dumbass one day did them without a belt thats was about 17yrs ago and have been haunted by it ever since get up in the morn and takes a few hrs to get straighted out .so i guess lesson learned from this always use the belt thanks napalm i was wondering about doin hacks and i also agree nothing is as good as the old tried and true squats but gotta do something thanks again and good luck bodmin im with ya on this one