Not Me

I don't mean to get off on a rant here but...

I always read that one's first cycle is always their best.  This was not true for me.  My first cycle consisted of 300 thai d's.  I made some significant gains, but I don't think that they were my best.  As time passed I learned much more about using perfomance enhancing drugs.  This knowledge helped me put together better cycles yeilding better results.  
I was just curious to what others opinions are about the 'first cycle is your best cycle' motto.

...that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

anyone........anyone       ???

Well, the reason your first cycle wasn't your best is because it was a shitty cycle bro. If you would have used test and the Dbol, and maybe an anabolic, you would have had a succesful cycle. I researched for 1 1/2 years before I did my first cycle. I put on 43 Lbs in 10 weeks when I finally did it. If you would have researched first, instead of after your cycle, you would have made much better gains!!! And, they would have probably been your best. later

If your first cycle would have been a more well thought out endeavor you may have gotten your "best" results. How was your next cycle, did it include test, EQ or Deca (ex)and anti e's? If it did you should have gotten your best gains then. 300 thai dbols alone is a waste of money.

MP

Napalm,  bro, that was six years ago, and as i mentioned before in my 'learning' post, i did tons of research.  I was only like 18 or 19, a bit young, yes, but totally informed.  The problem was----availability.  back then i could only get what i could get.  i couldn't really be picky.  sure if i had done a test along with an anabolic, it would have been great.  Again, do you think that if i had the oppurtunity then to do that, that it would have been better then doing any other cycle later on?

yes 300 d's was pathetic.  back then i was a whole 190lbs.  im now holding around 260 and at my highest 275.  i'd say things got a little better over the years.

<!--QuoteBegin--stumpy+April 09 2002,9:07--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (stumpy @ April 09 2002,9:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->im now holding around 260 and at my highest 275.  i'd say things got a little better over the years.[/quote]
... ...yeah just a little...lol...good job bro...

thanks bro.

My last bulking cycle just blew my first cycle out of the water.  Don't get me wrong, the first was great, and up until that point the best.  But there is something to say for experience and trying new things.  Most people never eclipse the results they got on their first for the simple reason that they were so far away from their genetic potential.  The bigger you get, the harder it is to put on sheer poundage.  In my case, my highest weight is just shy of 250.  I seriously doubt I'll ever throw on 35lbs in any one 10-12 week cycle going forward.  I'd like to get up to that 275 max/250 cut range, but I know it's going to be a little slower and alot harder to attain that than it was to go from 200 to 235 like I did on my first.

i guess napalm said it best...it depends on what u do for a cycle and what u eat, sleep, and lift, and eat again  ???

Its all about knowledge of your body. I would say that your 3rd or 4th cycle could be really fuckin awesome if you payed attention to your body during the first few cycles. Once you find the drugs you react to the best you should be able to create one helluva cycle.

You did tons of research, yet did a dbol only cycle?  You had to study in high school to pass didn't you?

First cycle here, and so far put on 60 pounds.  Probably got another 20 coming before I am done.

If you would have researched like the rest of us in the real world do, then you would have gotten some test at least.  And yes, 6 years ago YOU could have gotten your test legally.

Research my ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<!--QuoteBegin--synovex+April 10 2002,07:04--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (synovex @ April 10 2002,07:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->You did tons of research, yet did a dbol only cycle?  You had to study in high school to pass didn't you?

First cycle here, and so far put on 60 pounds.  Probably got another 20 coming before I am done.

If you would have researched like the rest of us in the real world do, then you would have gotten some test at least.  And yes, 6 years ago YOU could have gotten your test legally.

Research my ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
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...way to support your MC brothers!

I can understand that Dbol was the only thing available back then. When I was in HS, it was the only thing around. Well that, methyl test and cheque drops, lol. A lot of the wrestlers and football players were using them. Personally, I never used them back then. I smoked dope instead, lol. Not quite a performance enhancing drug, but it met my needs at the time, lol. I consider the cycle I am on now to be as successful as my first. But that was a bulking cycle, and this is a cutting cycle. My first cycle put me up to 228, but I was carrying a lot of Bf. After that I went up to 240. That was my heaviest. Now, I am just over 200 Lbs, and look 100% better then I did at 240. Amazingly enough, people think I am bigger now, and I am almost 40 Lbs lighter!!!

As far as your question. At 19 YO, if you would have used a good, solid cycle, you would have blown up. We have a kid at the gym. He is 18 and still in HS (he graduates this year). He uses a little test and Deca, and thats it. He went from 140 to 190 in just less than a year and his Bf has never went above 10-12%. Thats about 45-50 Lbs of muscle in a fucking year!!! He is definatly genetically gifted though. And hasn't wasted his time in the gym either. He has been asking questions from our circle of friends all year, and now he is just pissing us all off!! LOL. I really don't agree with his using AAS, but he is using them intelligently, and his father knows, and is paying for it. If he sticks with it, he will be a pro someday, but I think he wants to be a pro wrestler and not a pro BBer. Later

well also because as you increase in weight, your body doesnt really wanna get too much bigger, even if your mind does!  My first cycle wasnt my best, again, same type of thing as stumpy, i knew much less then.

i DID research, but like i said, all that i could get my hands on was the d's.  damn, i didn't think i was gonna get ripped for this so much.

thank you bstrong

<!--QuoteBegin--stumpy+April 10 2002,7:04--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (stumpy @ April 10 2002,7:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->i DID research, but like i said, all that i could get my hands on was the d's.  damn, i didn't think i was gonna get ripped for this so much.[/quote]
i didnt mean to rip you if i did.  we all make mistakes, bfd

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