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Now I've heard the rumors that this product, well, sucks.  People say that it is extremely painful, underdosed, and underfilled.  A few questions:

1.  Has anyone expirience flulike symptoms following injections?

2.  Is all the negative information about the product solely stemming from an article in Testosterone magazine?

3.  Has anyone had any positive results from the product?
 
Loeffler Sus was the fist sss I ever used. I loved the results I got from it. I went from about 186 to about 205 with the stuff. Keep in mind that this has been a few years and the quality is rumored to be worse now.....who knows?
Now I just stick with single esthers.
 
Mixed reviews from me:
I had some nice gains on it, but most of the bottles were underfilled.  Also, I am almost certain that one of the bottles was so underdosed it was worthless.  I had to use quite a bit more than I planned on to get the results I wanted.

Bottom line=they have product consistency issues, you are taking a chance that you'll get shortchanged.  If you get a really good price and can order a shitload, then maybe it's worth it.

I never had pain or flu symptoms from it.
 
Underfilled, I mind, but I don't mind it as much as underdosed.  How can you ever really tell if something is underdosed unless you have a lab in your basement.
 
Its not that bad everyone I know that takes it gets good gains, they just bitch about the pain. I dont think I have ever bought a mexican steroid that had exactly 10ccs in the bottle, so dont make that a reason not to take it.
 
I'm not one to bitch about the pain, but hows this:

a couple of weeks ago i got really sick.
one week later felt great and took one cc.
one day later felt achy and flulike.
thought it was relapse of the sickness.
the other nite took one more just to see.
flulike again.
WTF
 
I am using it now, I have been for 3 weeks. I have never felt as much swelling and pain from any other shot, T-400 was nothing in comparrison. I am not sure if I will finish what I started. If you use it definately boil it.
 
I used Loeffler sus for my first cycle. Great results, but I would probably have grown well off of anything the first time around. It was certainly underfilled. I got 7ml out of 10. No flu symptoms for me....
 
Next day after inject I get the flu like symptoms.  It lasts for a day.  It will get better around week 5.
 
finally, mbstrong, you seem to be the only other person with this problem.  I've never had this reaction with, say, organon sus though.  the day after i feel like i was hit by a bus.  achy bones and weakness, and lethargic. not to mention the intense pain at the injection site. what could be the cause of the symptoms?
 
Sounds like you prone to the sust-flu, did you sweat every night? or at least EON?  I would stick it out, if you can muscle it up.  Good luck.
 
as crazy as it sounds, i was thinking of tossing it.  well, i probably don't have the heart for that but i definitely am not taking anymore of it, for now.  again, ive never had these reactions with organon.  yes sweating occured too.  the problems usually stopped about 48 hours after injection.
 
Two possibilities IMO: 1) the BA (Benzyl Alcohol) is causing an allergic reaction...i.e. pain, swelling flu-like symptoms, or 2) The stuff is dirty and contains microorganisms or bacteria that is making you sick.

If you can stand staying on it for a week or two, the symptoms will most likely go away.  If it's too bad, you can always send it to me  :D   If the batch was really dirty, you would have developed some sort of intramuscular infection or cellulitus.  You'd have a raised area that would get angry red and be warm to the touch.  If that happens, a trip to doc for some antibiotics will be the only fix.
 
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