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bigjim33
04-09-2002, 12:53 PM
it has begun &nbsp;<!--emo&:p--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> &nbsp;i will keep some updates here but a journal type post will be at FB if anyone is interested. my cycle is:
prop 1-8 150mg/eod
fina 1-8 75mg/eod
winny 1-8 50mg/d
t3-ramp up to 75 and back down slowly
clen 2 weeks on 2 off
liquidex .3mg ed till clomid ends
clomid on hand

should be a fun 8 weeks &nbsp;:D

ragintiger
04-09-2002, 01:14 PM
Good luck bro..im just about on the same with but on eq too. Drop in from time to time and give us some updates.
RT

DannyP
04-09-2002, 01:19 PM
good looking cycle, keep us updated on your results.

Danny

sully
04-09-2002, 02:35 PM
...good luck bro... :D

winnie
04-09-2002, 02:41 PM
Bro I can&#39;t remember from you old posts so I&#39;ll just ask again. &nbsp;Do you have experience with winny? &nbsp;If not 8 weeks seems like a long time to be on for you first dabble with winstrol. &nbsp;It might not have that hard of an effect on you body, but with some people it does. &nbsp;All I am saying is make sure you plan it out in case you &nbsp;need to switch your dosages of winny around.

Good Luck

bigjim33
04-09-2002, 02:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--winnie+April 09 2002,7:41--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (winnie @ April 09 2002,7:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Bro I can&#39;t remember from you old posts so I&#39;ll just ask again. Do you have experience with winny? If not 8 weeks seems like a long time to be on for you first dabble with winstrol. It might not have that hard of an effect on you body, but with some people it does. All I am saying is make sure you plan it out in case you need to switch your dosages of winny around.

Good Luck[/quote]
i am using ip winny. &nbsp;i have enough for 8 weeks. &nbsp;if i experience problems with it i will cut back on it. &nbsp;i am also taking ala, tyler&#39;s detox factors, msm, vit.c, mult.vit.,glutamine, protein, and pantothenic acid. &nbsp;i am drinking like 2 gallons of water a day. &nbsp;so i think i should be ok. &nbsp;i will keep you guys posted on how it goes.

mr456
04-09-2002, 06:40 PM
Jim I think I would ramp the T-3 up to 100mcg and back down...I would also think maybe about running the Prop/tren combo 10 weeks and winny for only 5. Start the winny in week 7 so that it runs 2 weeks past your last inject....between the Tren/Prop/T-3 you should stay pretty lean. If you are eating low calories make sure you keep your protein high...if you are eating high calories....do some cardio to keep excess fat off. Tren can work either way..on low cals..it will make you vascular and defined but not a whole lot of strength gains...but on &nbsp;a high calorie diet it will have dramatic strength gains...good luck&#33;&#33;

bigjim33
04-09-2002, 07:44 PM
i am going to play the t3 by ear. &nbsp;if i feel everything is going smoothly, i might go up to 100 but i will see when the time comes. &nbsp;i am sticking with the 8 week plan as above because i leave for vacation a few days after my cycle ends so i don&#39;t want to have to worry about taking my gear on a plane or anything.

villian
04-09-2002, 11:26 PM
Looks good bro. I&#39;m planning something similar, but with sus instead of prop and no t3. Are you running then clen on/off for all 8 weeks? What made you decide to take the winny ed for 8? I have 40ccs and was thinking of taking it eod for 11 weeks. I heard your only supposed to take tren for 5-6 weeks tops. Do you think 8 is too long? Just wondering how you planned your cycle and maybe if I should adjust mine.

bigjim33
04-10-2002, 01:11 AM
villian, i am doing the clen on and off for the 8 weeks. &nbsp;i got enough ip winny for 8 weeks so that is why i decided to use it the whole time. &nbsp;i have talked to people who have used fina for longer than 8 weeks so i decided on 8 weeks, but it will actually be closer to 7 weeks. &nbsp;post your cycle on the board and we can help you.

BStrongBwell*
04-10-2002, 10:49 AM
bigjim, sounds good...be sure to let us know your before/after stats, diet and training. &nbsp;I think a bunch of guys on here are on similiar cycles, I know I am anyway, and would like to compare results.

2BIG
04-10-2002, 12:07 PM
VILLIAN &nbsp;Dont take winny for 11 weeks that is overkill on the body. &nbsp;Take it for 6 to no more than eight weeks. &nbsp;You said you have an injectable form of winny so you can inject eod at no less that 100mg. &nbsp;If you want the same results with an oral like BIGJIM33 has then you must take winny at no less than 50 mg ed. &nbsp;The reason for this is when taken orally it gets passed through your body faster than when it is injected intermuscularly. &nbsp;Remeber you can drink winny also because it has the same chemical makeup as the tabs. &nbsp;I would only drink it every other time though because most feel that injected gives better results. &nbsp;Hope i helped you bro.

bigjim33
04-10-2002, 01:04 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--BStrongBwell+April 10 2002,3:49--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (BStrongBwell @ April 10 2002,3:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->bigjim, sounds good...be sure to let us know your before/after stats, diet and training. I think a bunch of guys on here are on similiar cycles, I know I am anyway, and would like to compare results.[/quote]
my before weight on wed. was 276 app. and bf% guessing 15-20 but never had tested. &nbsp;my diet is about 100g carbs a day and 300g protein a day. &nbsp;my lifting split is each bodypart once a week and cardio is 3-4 times a week at 25 min. &nbsp;my split:
monday-chest
tues-arms
wed-legs
thurs-shoulders
fri-back
sat and sun-off

upncoming
04-10-2002, 01:06 PM
well looks nice (ive said this before) pal. &nbsp;you should have good results. &nbsp;neic to see you here. &nbsp;bigjim33 has got some great knowledge.

bigjim33
04-11-2002, 02:10 AM
thanks upncoming, i am about to get all teary eyed &nbsp;;)

bigjim33
04-15-2002, 04:25 PM
well guys, a wee in with the winny,t3,and clen. &nbsp;strength is up in everything, and i am starting to slim down a little. &nbsp;i will be adding the prop/fina tomorrow or wed., it will depend on how underfilled the prop is. &nbsp;i can&#39;t wait to see what this combo can do &nbsp;<!--emo&:p--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'><!--endemo--> &nbsp;only complaint, i am up to 7 clen(oxy.) a day. &nbsp;i will only use spiro&#39;s from now on.

bigjim33
04-17-2002, 12:21 PM
hey guys. &nbsp;did my first shot of 1.5cc of t100 in the quad today. &nbsp;went smoothly, no problems. &nbsp;i am going to be adding the fina within the next week. &nbsp;everything is fine with the t3, i will be doing my first day of 75mcg tomorrow, and i think i am going to go up to 100mcg a day. &nbsp;iwill keep you guys posted on how things are going

bigjim33
04-18-2002, 12:44 AM
quad was sore like an hour or two after i injected but nothing unbearable. &nbsp;i went and lifted legs tonight. &nbsp;i can&#39;t wait to start the fina and have it all kick in &nbsp;<!--emo&**--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='**'><!--endemo-->

bigjim33
04-21-2002, 04:36 PM
did my third shot of prop today in the delt. &nbsp;very easy. &nbsp;i like quad and delt injections, not a problem. &nbsp;today is my first day at 100mcg of t3. &nbsp;everything is going well. &nbsp;fina starts on tues with the next shot of prop. &nbsp;this time i will shoot my glute. &nbsp;my cycle is kinda revised:
winny 50mg/d 1-8
prop 150mg/eod 2-8
fina 75mg/eod 3-8
t3 .5(3 days),1(3 days),2(3 days),3(3 days),4(20 days),3(6 days),2(6days),1(6 days),.5(6 days)
NYC instead of clen due to oxy.sucking

bigjim33
04-23-2002, 02:09 AM
my delt was extremely sore. &nbsp;i think i moved the pin around when i was aspirating too much. &nbsp;i took one of my roomie&#39;s 800mg ibprofin and it reduced the pain to normal.

bigjim33
04-29-2002, 07:52 PM
well i converted my fina today and took my first shot with my prop in the left glute. &nbsp;i tried the right one, got blood in the pin, and switched to the left and all went smoothly. &nbsp;i can&#39;t wait for it to kick in. &nbsp;everything is going pretty good so far. &nbsp;i haven&#39;t been doing cardio a lot but i am gonna work on doing it more.
question.....my heart rate is usually faster, which i expected, but it was faster than usual today. &nbsp;do you think it is because i added fina today, or do you think i should drop the nyc? &nbsp;i was going to add clen wed. but now i am rethinking.(i got good clen now)

bigjim33
05-09-2002, 12:43 AM
well sorry i haven&#39;t updated in a while but i have been really busy. &nbsp;
i dropped the clen because it was increasing my heart rate way too much, and i didn&#39;t want an extremely high pulse while i was taking everything else. &nbsp;i will use it in the summer. &nbsp;i got my blood pressure checked recently, 148/62. &nbsp;happy about that
i started my taper down on t3 today.
it seems like my ass always has "knots" for a few days after injecting it. &nbsp;quads are by far my sweet spot, i love them. &nbsp;the fat is starting to come off and strength is starting to pick up :-) &nbsp;i think it took longer cuz i was running lower carbs but i am eating more now 200-300 a day.
i will be adding ala starting monday at 3g a day with meals. &nbsp;this is to get my body into ketosis and to stay there for the last three weeks of my cycle without having to have low carbs and sacrifice gains. &nbsp;you can check this out at elite, there are a few threads. &nbsp;if your interested let me know and i will find the link.
all for now

mr456
05-09-2002, 11:26 AM
Your heart will damn near beat out of your chest on that cycle. Its not the Oxy cause mine did the same thing and I wasn&#39;t using Clen. Its a combo of T-3 and Tren/Prop.

bigjim33
05-09-2002, 12:43 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--mr456+May 09 2002,4:26--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (mr456 @ May 09 2002,4:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->Your heart will damn near beat out of your chest on that cycle. Its not the Oxy cause mine did the same thing and I wasn&#39;t using Clen. Its a combo of T-3 and Tren/Prop.[/quote]
no it wasn&#39;t oxy. &nbsp;i got good clen and added that. &nbsp;but i didn&#39;t like it with everything else. &nbsp;since dropping the clen, my heart rate is almost normal

BStrongBwell*
05-09-2002, 02:28 PM
If you keep your diet clean, you&#39;ll drop weight at an amazing rate...could be as much as 3-4lbs per week during the ramp-up and peak of your T3...one observation though, up your protein&#33; &nbsp;You&#39;ll need a minimum of 400g at your bodyweight IMO. &nbsp;Without enough protein, the combination of T3 and that extra cardio WILL strip you of your muscle&#33;

bigjim33
05-09-2002, 03:49 PM
i have upped my protein lately

bigjim33
05-13-2002, 12:38 PM
i started ala at 3g/d today spread out with meals. &nbsp;i will let everyone know how that goes. &nbsp;i am goign to run it like that for the last 3 weeks of my cycle.