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steeljay
04-21-2002, 01:33 PM
I've heard and seen with the fina kits around 75mg/ml strength but on of my buddies used some for his last cycle that was 200mgs/ml. I plan on making my own as well i just want to know the procedures or alterations to making it 200mgs/ml. add less oil to the mix?

basskiller
04-21-2002, 03:47 PM
That is going to hurt!

gearedup
04-21-2002, 03:57 PM
Why do you want to make it 200mgs/ml?  why not just take more ml's it isn't any harder?

bigjim33
04-21-2002, 04:30 PM
just make it the normal 75mg/ml.  i don't think the extra pain is worth the .5cc less.

red2x2001
04-21-2002, 08:50 PM
hey steel i dont post much but here is my 2 cc on this topic. if you go with a highr concentration the less oil you have to shoot everytime. i like the 200mg/ml means i only have to shoot 1/2 cc everyother day. and to get a higher mg/ml you just buy the component-th not the finaplix. and use the whole belt. will give you 200mg/ml good luck and happy converting.

Shredded77
04-23-2002, 10:02 PM
do the 75 mg  method you still got to take it at least eod , unless your doing 600 mg a day or eod.which i dont think is your aim.

Wish_I_was_big
04-23-2002, 11:38 PM
If I remember correctly, the component-th is just twice as much tren as the H version... which would only yield 150mg/ml if you used the supplied amount of oil for a 2g kit.

I made the 75mg/ml, and can say it doesn't hurt, don't see why you'd want the pain.

CJ Buff
04-24-2002, 02:50 PM
I just made the 75mg/ml fina thanks to animal, and it works great!  I wouldn't suggest the 200mg/ml.

CJ

captainbicept
04-24-2002, 03:22 PM
200mg/ml is cgoing to cause alot of pain, the great thing about fina is that its painless amongst many other great features it has. why ruin the painless factor?

basskiller
04-24-2002, 04:22 PM
Th and H are mg for mg the same!  There is no difference between the two except for that there is twice as much!
2 carts of "H" is the absolute same as 1 cart of TH.

basskiller
04-24-2002, 04:27 PM
To get to 200 mgs you would need 3 carts a 4gm kit
But you will not be using all of the solution and  oil.

Use half the oil and a little more than half the solution to convert it. Don't throw either of the excesses away, you may need them. especially the oil, when you find the injections hurt too much.(if they do)

madchem
04-24-2002, 09:00 PM
Whats up guys. I just thought that this might be of interest.
I'm not sure if this guy knows what hes talking about........so make what you want of it


CONSUMER UPDATES FROM BROCK


All That Glitters Isn’t Gold!

Recently, a lot of people have been asking me about a product called "Finaplix Gold" made by Valopharm. In fact, a columnist for MuscleMag even wrote about it, singing its praises. I did a little snooping (and product testing) and this is what I came up with:

1) Valopharm is not a legit company. It’s a bootlegger operating somewhere in America.

2) Valopharm makes (or at least labels, see below) three different products: Finaplix-H, which has a pink label, is supposed to be 33mg/ml of trenbolone acetate and comes in a 30ml vial; Finabol 50, which has a silver label and is supposed to be a 50mg/ml version, and of course, Finaplix Gold, which has a gold label and is supposed to have 100mg/ml of trenbolone acetate in a 30ml bottle.

3) Finaplix Gold is supposed to be a 100mg/ml clear solution. So how come the bottle I saw had a bunch of particulate matter in it? I can only assume the bootleggers didn't filter it all that thoroughly and there’s a lot of leftover methylcellulose from the pellets (unlike GAC and Ttokkyo, Valopharm uses the cattle pellets to make their product line). This isn’t a real problem by itself because the binders are harmless and is a cosmetic inconvenience at most. But consider the next point:

4) GAC and Ttokkyo only make a 75mg/ml trenbolone product and there’s a reason for this: you can't get much more than that into a milliliter of oil without jacking up the benzyl alcohol content so high it causes tissue damage. If you try to make more than 75mg/ml using a kit, you’ll end up filtering off and losing a lot of trenbolone, despite what the makers of the kits tell you. So how can Valopharm make a 100mg/ml product?

Valopharm can't make a 100mg/ml product! Here’s something you might find quite interesting to know: I had one of our readers who contacted me purchase several bottles of the Valopharm stuff (several of each version) over the last two to three months in order to test them in the molecular biology lab at his local university, as well as test them "clinically" (i.e. he used them on himself).

He withdrew 2ml of solution from a sample of each bottle and put each sample into a glass cuvette which was then placed into a Guilford Spectrophotometer and hit with 550nm beams of light. Now you’d expect the results to be different for each of the three samples due to the supposed concentration of the solutions, but lo and behold, they were all the exact same! What does this tell us?

5) It tells us that all three products tested have the same concentration of trenbolone! My guess is that it isn't 100mg/ml (impossible anyhow, or nearly so) or even 50mg/ml. I bet they're all 33mg/ml and Valopharm is just labeling them differently.



The good news is that all of them contain trenbolone acetate for sure, as this reader grew pretty well on them, describing gains in strength, vascularity and hardness which is what trenbolone is known for. However, seeing how the pink labeled bottles are much less expensive than the other two and based on the testing I described, I’d only buy this product and not the silver or gold labeled stuff, which certainly works well but is painfully expensive considering all three versions are probably the same thing.

Taken from
http://www.t-mag.com/articles/171stras.html

46and2aheadofme
04-24-2002, 10:20 PM
Fuck Brock Strasser.  He IS GAC so he obviously wants to bash a competing product that isn't overpriced like the GAC ripoff.  Not to mention the only place to get GAC has been less than reliable lately.
Gawd, and that last part about going through complicated-sounding lab testing, what a bunch of BS.  Why not just test it already and determine the concentration?  No offense madchem, I just get tired of this jackass's egotistical fantasies.
Bottom line: make your own, and make it at 75mg/ml.

madchem
04-24-2002, 11:17 PM
none taken bro.
I just did a search for Valopharm and that came up.

Never-the-less, if tt make there tren @ 75mg/ml, valo @100mg/ml there is probably a reason. To much BA needed to dissolve all the product or solubility of alcohol/oil mix not high enough..........im just assuming here...........

As 46and2aheadofme said  "make your own, and make it at 75mg/ml"

captaindianabol4kids
04-25-2002, 10:39 AM
madchms totally on! i know alot of people who make money from valopharm and they are bootlegging u all!
they know my gripe with them so i will say it like i see it!