IP shit

Hey,

I know this has been a bit of a touchy subject.  Some have bashed IP, some love it.  I guess I am just wondering what is going on...do you think this has to do with dealers bad mouthing each other?...fakes existing? or what?  I guess I was just looking for everyone to throw in their thoughts.

Thanks bro's,
J

OK i've done his gear and got good size out of it.. but if you get it from a remailer that's too many hand for gear to touch.. but straight from the little guy himself.. alot get lost to customs.. now to the gear itself.. everyone is alway saying that you save so much money.. well not really if you look at the price of his gear to compair it too vet Q or TT even it's not that much different.. so you tell me.. what would you rather do add 50 bucks to or order and know that you're going to get tested gear.. at without a dout will make you grow better than IP's with less pain or take the chance and get pills from the bad side of the press... for me and my body i'm never doing any ip gear again.. first human than vet.. to save 50 bucks now and have sometype of health problem mid cycle and have to stop lifting altogther... and if your going to do gear do it right.. don't screw around.. IMO...

gear101



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Remember this! In these types of deals you get what you pay for, and even when you do pay good money you may and up with some bunk shit. Thats the name of the game. I personally will not do any gear but TTokkyo. Except sus redijects. To this day I have never heard,read or seen any solid proof of ttokkyo fakes. Underfilled? maybe.. but you are getting juice bottom line. Now you order from this IP guy and you hear good and bad than be ready for one or the other! Good luck

Well..here is my take. If you get it from a remailer..then you should only get it from certain ones. Some are bogus but others are the shit. My cycle that i am on right now is ALL IP products with the exception of the T-3. Its prop150eod and Tren 80mg EOD...go to the members section and look at my befores...then look at my afters....that is what IP has done for me in 5 weeks...just my opinion though.....

Mr456 You don't have any complaints about his prop or his tren?  Pain...btw nice pics!!!

I know his winny tears the hell out of me.

I am a first time user of his stuff. I got my ip orals before I got my injectables. I got too tempted to start so I started soem  orals 2 weeks ago. I have anavar,super clens (watch out for these babies, D-bols and winnie. I have been usingfor 2 1/2 weeks


100 mg of winne ed
50 mg of anavar ed
1/4 tab of super clen eod
and 50 mg dbol ed

So far my thoughts are I think my winnie and anavar batch was a dud. No doubt those dbols are good. I am getting crazy pumped after the 3rd day of dbol and my strength is def up. the doses may seem high but I have heard numerous places thagt the var are 4mg and some batches of winnie have been underdosed. there have been a few days when i did not take the dbol and my pumps went away. So I know for sure these are good shit. Winnies and vars are questionable on this batch.I got em all cheap so no real worries. When I started I was 250m in the morning. I am now 264 <!--emo&?/--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='?/'><!--endemo-->. I am sure 12 of those pounds are water because I don't have my liquidez yet. My strength is up quite a bit though. I have chewed all the winnies like people say. My prob is I don't want to go up in weight. I want to lose fat and replace it with muscle and gain a few pounds but replace the fat weight with muscle. My weight shot straight the pfuck up though. My diet has been nowhere near obsessive in cal intake as well. Hope this is helpful and will let you know when I break the skin for the first time:0

The thing with IP is his drugs are of variable quality. Often they will be excellent, but occaisionally they will be crap. That's the risk you take if you go for any non pharmacy stuff.

His Prop and Tren are really good. I have been trying some new pre-inject methods that have saved me from a lot of agony. My friend is using IP D-bol and getting decent gains..(about 10lbs in 2 weeks...d-bol only cycle..he is a dumbshit) anyway I feel like I said that if you deal with someone who you can trust to properly dose your stuff then you are golden. And quite honestly I can buy this stuff for half or less per vial that what a lot of name brand stuff goes for.
   My next cycle will also be all IP products.....Prop/Susp/Tren/EQ/T-3/winny so we'll see.
   I do believe I have heard some complaints about the orals..I don't use orals..well not yet anyway. At the prices it is offered at..how can you not give it a try?  just my take bro's..........456

Thanks for the input fella's just wanted to see what everyone had to say.

J

I am going to be starting an all IP cycle myself. The way I look at it is, you won't know how his stuff is unless you try it. I know he has been around for a long while and I don't think he would last if his products were not atleast up to par. For the price of his products I feel it's worth the risk to give the man a try!!!!   PL

I have only done his winny,50mg tab.I liked them.

In the past I've used.  IP Sust 285 (before it hit 300), IP EQ, IP .25 arimidex's, IP 50mg Winny, IP Viagra (... oh yeah, works nice.. LOL) .. IP Nolvadex.. I know someone who used IP Anavar, IP Masteron, and IP Anarols' ..  personal friends .. (that and sig. other's) ... (and no.. not the abombs.. LOL) .. and no one has has a complain yet.  There is ALOT of crap going around about him.

Honestly, you use the product and you like it or not.  There are also alot of companies who want to "crush" the competition.  All will say and do whatever it takes to make a buck.  Remember that...  also .. it's easy to get another user name and bash someone too.

I personally like IP's shit.  Never used all his latest oils though, so ... take it or leave it on that.  His tabs always worked wonders for me personally!

IP is excellent shit. If your ordering his stuff domestic,just make sure you have a dependable standup guy behind it and you won't have any problems. Quality stuff,awesome prices.

ive only done the ip winnie.  i love it for a couple of reasons:

i like the dosage.
its cheap.