PDA

View Full Version : Cutting Up For Summer...HELP!!!



Man Boobies
04-28-2002, 12:46 PM
Ok, have posted about this once or twice..but am really sweating this!

I just started 400 deca/400 cyp per week for 10 weeks...and I also threw in some dbol to kick it off for the first few weeks...till I run out.

Well I am already seeing the dreaded fat/water gains (in my face)...and am sweating this BIG TIME!!!  I don't want the fat chubby cheeks once I get off the cycle...what can I do...!?!?!!  Oh...I had the chubby cheeks when I started the cycle...sigh :(

I am open to suggestions!  DNP? Winnie? Clen? What!?!?!  Please help me out...I have no knowledge when it comes to this...and could really use some expert advise!!!

Cheers!
MB

Mj23
04-28-2002, 01:05 PM
No expert myself but, you should have some liquidex.....I just ordered mine. It is supposed to get rid of water retention and fight gyno. Ihave been tempted with dnp but I am still unsure because I know it can be harsh. Hope this helps

Man Boobies
04-28-2002, 01:10 PM
helps a little bit....I am going crazy right now...I want to be cut up for summer...or atleast not have a fat face!

I was going to work on cutting up next summer...but I thought it over..and I just don't want to go into this summer with a fat face :(

This fucking sucks!!!  damn chubby cheeks!!!

DecaDent*
04-28-2002, 01:13 PM
Don't panic bro,you can get it under control. Here's a start:
1)Add an anti-aromatase daily and stay on it at least 3 weeks after your last shot to keep your estrogen levels down,that counts for alot of the bloat,Dbol aromatizes quite easily as does your Test. So,Arimidex .25-.5 every day.
2)Increase your water intake to at least 10 liters/day plus what ever replacement fluids you loose with exercise
3)Review your diet....Reduce your carb intake since your cutting and keep your protein at 2g/lb of body weight/day.
4)Start your day with some ECA and 20-25 min of cardio before you eat.

That what works for me. I'd research a WHOLE lot before I'd even consider stuff like DNP(not worth the risks IMO anyways)

Fine tune the basics and you'll be happy with this cycle....No need to sweat it ;)

Stickler
04-28-2002, 01:16 PM
Man boobies ...

Bro, I'm the king of chubby cheeks.   LOL .. round face and all.  First of all, drink water.. (helps relieve a little water retention.. b/c your body doesn't need to hold it in if you intake enough) .. 2)  Winstrol is good for water retention, but nolva/arimidex should work wonders.  3)  Dandelion Root is a good dieretic.  Also helps with BP and the digestive track.  (read up on it.. it might be worth it) .. actually do a search on mc.com .. i think sasha posted on it already.

Also, you can use an ECA/CLEN combo (i personally hate clen.. but hell .. some people love it).  T3 might be an option for drastic weight loss but make sure to read the post (everything you needed to know about t3)..

My suggestion, DNP will ultimately fuck up your system.  It's scary as hell to use IMO, and I am too fucking scared to use it.  Not to mention it can very easily cause cancer in your liver among other organs...   trust me READ UP ON DNP before using it.  I personally hate the fact that DNP is SOOOooo common and sought after.. but who am I to say anything.  Regardless.. read read read.. and you'll be able to work off your chubby cheeks.  (do 5 days of cardio for a minimum of 20 minutes a day) .. you will drop alot of water weight that way as well...  don't intake as much salt as the avg' human being..  ...  and uh..  oh yeah,  men have a tendency to lose weight (water and in general) in their face FIRST.  So look at it this way, this will be the first thing to thin out.

Hope that helped... or at least gave ya hope and options.  Just make sure you do your research before jumping on any "miracle" drug band wagons.

Man Boobies
04-28-2002, 01:16 PM
aight getting some good advise :)

I was thinkinga bout getting the Newliquidex!?

Stickler
04-28-2002, 01:17 PM
of course.. DecaDent said it in a more "professional" manner.. but at least I got the same "general" idea in there... lol ... (damn you.. ahha)

Man Boobies
04-28-2002, 01:20 PM
Yeah I am thinking "hell NO" on DNP lately...but I am stressing over this...I don't care if I am 12% bodyfat....as long as my face doesn't look like an overstuffed melon! lol

Man Boobies
04-28-2002, 01:25 PM
Being that I am on this cycle...do you think that cutting my carbs down....will hurt my growth a lot?  I am 200 now...and if I were to maintain 215 long ater this cycle ends with a chubby-free face..I would be HAPPY!  :D

Liquidex the same as Armidex?  That may be a dumb question...just new to Liquidex and Armidex...

Stickler
04-28-2002, 01:42 PM
liquidex is the liquid form.. more cost effective.

cutting carbs will NOT hurt your gains.  Just maintain your calories through protien grams. .. increase protiens.  If need be use clean calories (aka: chicken, tuna, or even  cleaner .. protien shakes/bards)..

DecaDent*
04-28-2002, 01:45 PM
<!--QuoteBegin--Stickler+April 28 2002,11:17--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Stickler @ April 28 2002,11:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->of course.. DecaDent said it in a more "professional" manner.. but at least I got the same "general" idea in there... lol ... (damn you.. ahha)[/quote]
Stick we were both on the same track there &nbsp;:) &nbsp;I think we just posted at the same time.....

ManBoobz,you have to decide are you cutting.....or are you bulking.....trying to cut fat and go from 200 to 215 is unrealistic. If you drop just 10 lbs of fat while cutting that means you&#39;ll have to add 25# of lean muscle on a cutting cycle.......if you can accomplish that then we&#39;re going to clone your DNA....your goal is not realistic IMO. So if you want to cut the fat I say cut the carbs

Man Boobies
04-28-2002, 09:58 PM
DecaDent, what do you all think I should do? Cut or Bulk? Should I Bulk now and Cut towards the end? Sigh this is hard work..but will be worth it :)

Cheers,
MB

DecaDent*
04-30-2002, 09:44 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Man Boobies+April 29 2002,07:58--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Man Boobies @ April 29 2002,07:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><!--QuoteEBegin-->DecaDent, what do you all think I should do? Cut or Bulk? Should I Bulk now and Cut towards the end? Sigh this is hard work..but will be worth it :)

Cheers,
MB[/quote]
If your in the northern hemisphere its going to be summer soon and shirtless weather &nbsp;so it&#39;s cutting season for most. If you want to add more mass,just start back in the late fall when you can wear sweaters and eat all those good Thanksgiving-Christmas foods to bulk with. &nbsp;:)

stumpy
04-30-2002, 03:24 PM
no science here. &nbsp;cut calories and get your chubby cheeks on the treadmill.

Man Boobies
04-30-2002, 04:35 PM
Well I know stubby lol...

The whole deal is that I am 3 weeks into a cycle...and started sweating the chubby cheeks I had...and seeing them grow 3 weeks in...sigh :(

I want to get the most outta my cycle...while minimizing the fat gains...and maybe even dropping fat...that is the question :) :) :)

Cheers,
MB

CUTTUP
04-30-2002, 04:38 PM
dude first off if your trying to get cut up for summer why are you addding in dbol and taking test, those 2 are known for water retention and getting a bloat look which is the opposite of looking cut, since you already started this cycle yea you should cut your carbs down and eat really lean, at least the mass you will get will be alot cleaner this way, second take this mass you got and polish it, i&#39;d say get some winni, eq, and add a little cartio in there after your workouts, with hard work skys the limit cuz and you&#39;ll be aight PEACE

Man Boobies
05-01-2002, 08:46 PM
Arrrgggg I hope I am not being a pain in the ass about this lol

What about adding primobolon at the end of cycle? after clomid? To help keep gains made from bulking cycle...and to concentrate on dieting during july and aug? &nbsp;Would I be able to keep my gains?