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bdog
04-30-2002, 12:31 PM
Fella's,

I began taking 1 clen per day for the last 3 days. I planned on increasing up to three tabs per day. However, I am shaky and my heart is racing at a pretty good 115 beats per minute resting. So I am thinking maybe I am sensative and just stick to 1 tab. I begin my summer cycle in a couple weeks and will add my cytomel too. Just bridging with 25mg of anavar every morning and 200mg of primo depot 2x a week until my next cycle. So do you think I am doing the right thing staying at 1 tab or should I not be a puss* and go for it? I am currently 5'4 190 pds with 11% bf, got some vascualrity in arms and shoulders but a little weight in love handles and glutes. Want to get to 180 and 6 % BF ASAP. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks for the time.

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Z-monster
04-30-2002, 01:34 PM
I assume you are using the 20mcg type of clen and not IP&#39;s super clen. &nbsp;If it is normal clen then 20mcg per day is an extremely low dose, however, everyone&#39;s body is different and you have to listen to your body. &nbsp;Do you have trouble with E/C/A? &nbsp;I would give it a few more days for your body to get used to it, if you are still shaking uncontrolably then I would stop use and look for alternatives. &nbsp;I recommend 4-6 tabs per day to get the desired full effect.

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bdog
04-30-2002, 02:34 PM
Z mon,

Thanks for advice bro and yah i got 200 tabs at 20 and hope I did&#39;nt waste my &#036;. Still shaky today and others even commenting on it which is not cool. I will give it a few days and see what happens. I can tell my metabolism is booming though. Later...

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cjm8232
04-30-2002, 02:36 PM
Yeah bro, I&#39;d try to up the dosage, and personally I find an ECA works better for me than clen. &nbsp;But you may not be able to tolerate an ECA. &nbsp;Are you taking T-3 b/c if you are then you won&#39;t need as much ECA/Clen. b/c I feel T-3 increases the stimulant effects a ton. Personally I won&#39;t use clen. w/o T-3. &nbsp;Good luck bro and stick to diet and cardio and you&#39;ll see good results, and your stats aren&#39;t too bad either. &nbsp;Also I like winny better than anavar.

bdog
04-30-2002, 03:11 PM
cjm,

Hey bro, U like winni over anavar as a bridge? Done ttokkyo winni and did not like it. Joint pain and little results. The eca is an idea, done it before when I was "natural" but now I thought mine as well go all out. Some buddies who are big and ripped all swore by clen and t3. Have&#39;nt began t-3 yet because heard it eats muscle so I&#39;ll wait a couple weeks and add it in when I take some test, fina, and eq for my summer cycle. Thanks for the feedback.

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