qv vs ttokkyo?

Does ttokkyo cypionate hurt alot? How about Qv cypionate? Or is this a bunch of bs. Thanks again bros!

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Not any more than any other brands, and certainly less than some....

The most painful injections I have done were TT Cyp, and it left a nice little knot too.  I haven't used QV yet, so I can't compair the two.

...never tried the qv but am doing the ttokkyo cyp right now and they are absolutely painless... ...no problems for me but everyone is different...

NICe! Even though I am a pimp I don't wanna walk like one. Plus I am a little biotch when it comes to painful shots. Thanks fellas

I never used QV but am about to start and I have tried ttokyo cyp and it was painless.  Felt just like deca to me

bigjosh and sully, what kind of gains are you guys getting/had from the tt cyp?  I hear the "newer" lots are painless, but can you confirm the quality of tt's cyp.  I know there has been a lot of confusion regarding tt lately, so I am curious to know if they still sell quality stuff.  If you have done cyp b4, do you think it is properly dosed?  Thanx bros! <!--emo&/?--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='/?'><!--endemo-->  <!--emo&/?--><img src="http://musclechemistry.mantisforums.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sneaky2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='/?'><!--endemo-->