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Millineum Man
05-29-2002, 12:07 AM
Guys, what's your opinion of Test only as a First Cycle? I really don't want to get bogged down with complicated stacks of 3-4 drugs. With a little research, here's what I came up with- Test Enanthate@600-500mgs for 10 weeks with Arimidex@1mg EOD throughout and post cycle with Clomid. My goal is to keep 15lbs post cycle without going overboard on the doses. I'm 25 years old, 6'2" 230lbs and 9% bf. What do you think?

mbstrong
05-29-2002, 09:35 AM
I did a test only and put on 20 pounds.

Latinsteel
05-29-2002, 01:37 PM
Test is a good steriod to do on a first cycle. To think about it I have never heard anything negative about test for first timers.

CoachK On Roids
05-29-2002, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Presser
my first ever was 200mgs of t200 for 10 weeks and put on 30lbs

No shit, that was my very first cycle too. People at many boards laugh at that dose, but I too received great results.

BStrongBwell*
05-29-2002, 02:00 PM
I doubt you'll need that much arimidex. You can hinder gains by suppressing estrogen conversion completely. You might try half that and see if you develop any gyno symptoms. I like to keep nolvadex on hand as well just for that reason. If you feel symptoms, hit the nolva to keep the existing estrogen from binding and triggering fatty deposits in breast tissue, then up the arimidex by another .25 and see if that does the trick. That way you can find the most effective level of arimidex for you at a given test doseage.

slappy
05-29-2002, 07:11 PM
Thats a great cycle!

huntergatherer
05-29-2002, 08:40 PM
milleneum man
i started out at 175, 5'10 and only used sust 250 twice a week.
at the end of my cycle i was 198 and am now at 190. that was last sept/oct. i had nolv. but never needed it. used clomid at the end.
a shake in the morning and before bed plus plenty of chicken breast and tuna. was scared as h*ll to shoot the first dart...waited nearly a month before i did. no regrets...

dedprez*
05-29-2002, 09:00 PM
looks good.....

dedprez*
05-29-2002, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Presser
my first ever was 200mgs of t200 for 10 weeks and put on 30lbs



I THOUGHT U DID DBOL??? :confused:























:D :D

Millineum Man
05-29-2002, 10:14 PM
Thanks for the replies, guys!! I was thinking about adding EQ to enhance my cycle because it alledgedly increases appetite and vascularity. Still up in the air, though. Maybe, I should just keep it simple and stick with the Test(ICN Enanthate to be exact)? I'm also going to scale back on the Arimidex dosage and bring it down to .5mg EOD throughout and post cycle.

BStrongBwell*
05-30-2002, 09:01 AM
test only will work, but I'd put money on you liking the EQ stack even better!

Millineum Man
05-31-2002, 12:04 AM
Thanks for info! I think I will add the EQ!!

Millineum Man
06-04-2002, 03:17 AM
Up for more input from Mods and Vets!!!

MUCH BIGGER
06-04-2002, 06:59 AM
Test only is a good first cycle. I would add EQ if you can. Run the Test @ 500mg/wk and the EQ @ 400mg/wk and you should be happy with the results.

Millineum Man
06-04-2002, 07:03 AM
Which addition would make the cycle most effective? EQ? Or Dbol?

DecaDent*
06-04-2002, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by MUCH BIGGER
Test only is a good first cycle. I would add EQ if you can. Run the Test @ 500mg/wk and the EQ @ 400mg/wk and you should be happy with the results.

Nothing wrong with test only but I'd add the EQ....EQ over D-bol any day.

Millineum Man
06-04-2002, 09:42 PM
Thanks DecaDent!! I think I will add the EQ. I would love to have that hard, vascular look while gaining size. The appetite increase is a huge plus, too!!

TAZ
06-05-2002, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by DecaDent*


Nothing wrong with test only but I'd add the EQ....EQ over D-bol any day.


I agree. The ICN's are top notch but I think you would be happier with the EQ. I ran test only and wasn't that impressed with the gains I was getting but allot of guys do gain well on it. After I threw in some tren along with it things started to happen quickly.

Millineum Man
06-10-2002, 12:47 PM
Anymore replies before I order, guys? Stick with Test Enanthate@500mgs for 10 weeks by itself? Or add EQ@400mgs a week for 10 weeks? My goal is retain 15lbs of Lean Muscle after the cycle is over. What do you think?

DecaDent*
06-10-2002, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Millineum Man
! I think I will add the EQ. I would love to have that hard, vascular look while gaining size. The appetite increase is a huge plus, too!!


You had it right when you posted this......;)

mr456
06-10-2002, 02:17 PM
Running EQ at 400mg week and Enanthate at say 400-600mg a week for 10 weeks will yield great results ...depending on you. As for the Arimidex I would start at .25mg ED and just go from there. Like Bstrong said..completely suppressing estrogen during your cycle will hinder your gains. I personally would just have both (nolv/arim) on hand...if gyno symtoms occur... or you feel as if though you are having a lot of water retention then I would use them. Other than that I try to stay away from using either. I am a big believer that estrogen is a big part of growing during a cycle...........456

Millineum Man
06-11-2002, 12:04 PM
I think I'll stick with Test only for my First Time out and save the EQ for my next cycle.

U-Envy-Me
06-12-2002, 03:39 PM
I don't know bro...

I am starting my first cycle soon...

I figure I'm gonna go right to the good stuff...

Mine will be either:

weeks 1-10
-400mg tt eq/week
-100mg test prop EOD
-300mg ip sus/week

or

weeks 1-10
-400mg tt eq/week
weeks 1-5
-ip sus 300mg/week
weeks 6-10
-test enan (ICN's) 500mg/week

Good luck whatever you decide...

Millineum Man
06-12-2002, 10:22 PM
U-Envy-Me, IMO that's TOO much for a First Cycle!! I don't think I'm alone when I say this, either. Try one or two products at modest amounts and receive GREAT results.

Millineum Man
06-24-2002, 06:48 AM
I think I'm going to try Dbol@25-30mgs a day for the first 5 weeks with Testoviron@500mgs for 10 weeks with Arimidex@.5mgs EOD throughout and post cycle to keep water retention to a minimum and gyno in check. I want to keep everything REALLY simple and VERY effective.

Millineum Man
06-28-2002, 04:06 AM
How about Deca@200-300mgs a week, instead of the Dbol? Or the EQ@400mgs a week?

goldenear
06-28-2002, 12:56 PM
Deca & test will shut you down really hard. I'd use Primobolan instead of Deca, especially since you don't know how you're going to react to all of this stuff yet.