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dedprez*
05-31-2002, 11:20 AM
was wondering....if the usual dosage of tren is 70-75 mg per week and many people experience hair loss but huge strength increases....y not tone it down to say half (35-40)???and still c great results...

jersey juice
05-31-2002, 11:48 AM
You mean 75mg a day right?? I always used 75mg ed of tren, and with the balding thing, if your predisposed to it it's gonna happen if you use lower doses or not, it'll just happen faster.

MUCH BIGGER
05-31-2002, 12:33 PM
i KEEP MY HEAD SHAVED YR ROUND SO i NEVER NOTICE BALDING.:D

CJ Buff
05-31-2002, 01:07 PM
Ded,

I was wondering the same thing... My first go round I went 75mg/eod then bumped up to 75mg/ED and that's when I experienced problems in progesterone and thinning of hair... ANYONE TRIED .5cc (37.5mg) ED or EOD with good results? I am jump starting my next cycle weeks 1-4 with 75mg/eod again without bumping up doseage.

CJ;)

dedprez*
05-31-2002, 01:37 PM
yea..sorry...every day

jersey juice
05-31-2002, 04:01 PM
I don't think dosage would matter, if your gonna lose your hair, your gonna lose it...either quickly or slowly, but genetics is the deciding factor, not dosage. If I am wrong someone PLEASE correct me, but I think it's all genetics...

dedprez*
05-31-2002, 04:33 PM
i believe that u r probably right but it is more like 50% genetics and 50% tren.....i realize that with other AS' there can b hair loss but nothing to the extent that tren produces if u r prone to it.......i mean if u do 400mg of t200 and have no hair loss and then move it up to say 800mg of t200 and start to have hair loss then obviously it is due to the dosage.....y can it not b the same thing with tren??

CoachK On Roids
05-31-2002, 04:35 PM
I just bumped my tren dose to 150mgs ed and no problems so far. I've been using it for 13 weeks and still have a full head of hair. Not condoning my practices, just lettin you guys know, lol.

dedprez*
05-31-2002, 07:20 PM
ok...that is one side of the story....r there any others out there??

thermochaser
06-30-2002, 02:27 PM
hey guys speaking of tA what about the kits available, how much perml do they produce say from a 4g kit and how does it feel to administer it injecting to your animals, would it hurt them? I am curious.. I have tried it like you are supposed to the other way with good results but just see what everyone has to say...

madchemist36
06-30-2002, 02:52 PM
i agree with u ded prez 75eod would still give someone great results. but if u really wanna do 75mg ed use an anti dht.

thermochaser
06-30-2002, 07:46 PM
Ok i understand that part but try and answer my question please....Thank you


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Gear101*
06-30-2002, 08:01 PM
i've heard people going 3 month then seeing hiar loss.. but it is different with all people

madchemist36
06-30-2002, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Chemical Evolution


I'd have 2 agree with that! Most of all sides are due 2 genetics!

bro you are partially correct, but dosage does matter. if you are doing 2 grams of test you will definilty have higher chances of getting bitch tits then if you were to do 500mg/week.

thermochaser
06-30-2002, 09:07 PM
at 200mg a day orally the cosumption is only about 20% and at injection its about 100% and on the skin with dmso its 80%. Hair loss and aggression are factors to look for and control. The basis is that if you are prone to it then you will get it with anything of the aas use. The liver will be ok if you take precautions like cranberry seed extract and cranberry juice about a liter a day or every other day and lots of water as it will make you thirsty and hungry, its about 10 x's more potent than testosterone.




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rooster1
06-30-2002, 11:32 PM
what is anti dht?is that going to help with sides of tren?

mr456
07-01-2002, 10:06 AM
Prez....I just did 80mg EOD for 10weeks. I used Nizerol shampoo ED also. I did notice some thinning but it was only noticeable by me and my wife. And it was also in the area where my hairline is receding anyway. I am 30 so its not that uncommon. If you use the right shampoo you won't have too much to worry about. I am pre-disposed to hairloss also. You can pick-up Nizerol at most hair salons (cost-cutters,,,etc.)...........456

gymrat
07-01-2002, 10:20 AM
well, my last cycle consisted of tren @ 100 mg/eod. I got fina d*ck real bad (couldn't even get it up with my girlfriend no matter what), I got the worst dreaded fina coughs after every injection, the muscle contractions in my lower back and chins where disabling at times, never slept for more than 2 hours a nigh. I hated the fina. The results were great though. I may try 37.5mg/eod on my next cycle to see if all those symptoms happen again. As soon as I see any side effects, I will stop it immediately.

thermochaser
07-01-2002, 11:25 AM
So injections are a no no if you cant hack the effects,the kits available are supposed to be like finaject the old french version but can be made a little more potent is it wise to go that route or any other? Suggestions..

dedprez*
07-01-2002, 11:50 AM
i think that injections would b the best way to go...but using dmso would not b that bad either.

thermochaser
07-01-2002, 12:00 PM
thanks dedprez, hey do you know the mg/ml if the kit is used to make it inject. A 4gm i think would make a 200mg/ml in a 10ml right? any idead, and does anyone know side effects after injection? I heard they are severe i have never injected ta.

Just for information only lol

TAZ
07-01-2002, 12:18 PM
I used 50 mg/ED on the my last cycle with a healty dose of test and reallly liked it.

I tried uping the dose after two weeks and the night sweats got pretty bad. I also got itchy nips. Both backed off when I went back down to 50mg. I didn't notice any dramatic change to my already thinning hair.
-TAZ

thermochaser
07-01-2002, 12:27 PM
thanks bro. all i need to do is figure out the math mg/ml and see what is a safe does..i will be using a cutting cycle soon and just curious if anyone has used it as an injectable but oral does great at burning fat than anything I have ever seen..I appreciate the input, what does was the test at and enth or prop?

mr456
07-01-2002, 05:37 PM
Its an excellent combo. 80 tren...100prop EOD for 10weeks....BOOM...great LEAN gains...depending on you. As for the injections..I have only experienced a fina "cough" on 2 occasions....if you inject VERY slowly it doesn't usually happen. I wouldn't even piss around with DMSO or mixing your own...just buy it pre-made injectable..much less headaches. I have seen it anywhere from $55-75 for 10ml at either 75 or 80 mg/ml. I know its a lot cheaper to make your own...but then you have to get a kit..and play chemist..and blah blah blah.

thermochaser
07-01-2002, 05:46 PM
I am going to use enth instead prop hurts like hell and i dont want both cheecks hurting..the chemist part is ok thats my major..lol I am almost done with my androl50 and sust cycle, next is the cutting thats why i asked about the fina inject..im 6'1 250 i estimate to lose about 10-15 lbs on it..

infectionz
07-06-2002, 02:55 PM
i experienced my first fina cough on my second fina cycle yesterday. i shot my right quad, and my dumbass didnt asparate and when i was done shooting blood popped into the dart. after a few seconds i started coughin like a fuckin maniac. i thought i was gonna die. every hour i would have a replay of the cough spaz. shit sucked. much better today. i could taste the BA, bleccchhh!!! you better believe i will asparate at all times now!

thermochaser
07-06-2002, 02:58 PM
You didnt draw back on surings huh? Big Mistake at least you lived to tell others about it.do you ever get a fever from it or anything like that? Is it from a conversion kit? and are you doing 75mg EOD or ED?

infectionz
07-06-2002, 03:00 PM
i had a fever yesterday from it yea, im doing 75mg ED. i bought an 8G kit from T and converted, shit came out clean as hell, didnt even need to bake. i love looking at it, its beautiful :)

thermochaser
07-06-2002, 03:05 PM
LOL "i love looking at it, its beautiful " That's fuckin funny. I am getting a 4gm kitand using test depot I was wondering if it made you hurt after injection did you do it slowly?

infectionz
07-06-2002, 04:17 PM
na doesnt hurt at all, i always do it slow, i dont need an infection

thermochaser
07-07-2002, 12:52 AM
do you alternate spots or just same one EOD?

dedprez*
07-07-2002, 02:03 AM
alternate..always

infectionz
07-07-2002, 01:14 PM
i would never do the same spot more than 2 times a week, i go right cheek, left cheek, right quad, left quad. i dont do delts because i did once and couldnt move my arm for over a week. same with bis

thermochaser
07-07-2002, 02:23 PM
I dont do quads either to much risk for soreness and infection, I work my legs hard everyday...every other cheek EOD RIGHT. 1CC OR 1ML (same thing) its 75mg..