PDA

View Full Version : FAT LOSS THREAD



gearedup
06-05-2002, 11:22 PM
heheheeh liposuction! Man can you tell I am excited, lol! I dont wanna get any bigger I just want to be extremely lean all the time I am big enough! Maybe after that I wont even get back on the juice! Maybe! :)

Gear101*
06-05-2002, 11:35 PM
45 mins of hard cardo eod and one of the best things that i found is.. in my gym they have bi cuffs that hang off the cable bridge machine and bend knees and go left for 2 sets of 20 then right.. works the outter O's

bigjim33
06-05-2002, 11:51 PM
ALA seems to work well at 3-4g a day with about 200-300g of carbs a day and no cardio so i can only imagine what cardio would do if added with this combo
i like gearedup's answer lol

gymrat
06-06-2002, 09:23 AM
I have heard that just upon wakening in the morning, drink a cup of warm water with two fresh lemons squeezed in it to burn some fat.

BStrongBwell*
06-06-2002, 09:48 AM
-stacking T3, clen and ECA during a cutting cycle
-adding a cardio workout 4 days a week for 40 min/day
-cutting out all non-vegetable carbs from my diet
-Having an orgasm before falling asleep naked with a fan running on me (orgasm burns immediate calories, boosts metabolism and the fan makes you cooler forcing the body to work harder at keeping body temp up... not to mention you burn more calories when you have a smile stuck on your face all night!)

gymrat
06-06-2002, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by BStrongBwell*
-Having an orgasm before falling asleep naked with a fan running on me (orgasm burns immediate calories, boosts metabolism and the fan makes you cooler forcing the body to work harder at keeping body temp up... not to mention you burn more calories when you have a smile stuck on your face all night!)

that was good

Loch Ness
06-06-2002, 12:10 PM
I personally like 200-300g of carbs/day.
Cardio on non-lifting days right when I wake up.
ECA before cardio and workout.
Selenium(support thyroid while dieting), and a gugglsterone product.
Is NYC any good how about yohiburn?

TAZ
06-06-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by BStrongBwell*
-stacking T3, clen and ECA during a cutting cycle
-adding a cardio workout 4 days a week for 40 min/day
-cutting out all non-vegetable carbs from my diet
-Having an orgasm before falling asleep naked with a fan running on me (orgasm burns immediate calories, boosts metabolism and the fan makes you cooler forcing the body to work harder at keeping body temp up... not to mention you burn more calories when you have a smile stuck on your face all night!)


Uh... That part at the end was waaaaaaaayyyyyy too much info BSBW........

TAZ
06-06-2002, 12:46 PM
1) Cardio @70-80% of Max for 30-40 minutes 5 days per week on empty stomach first thing in the morning.

2) Lowered carbs vairied daily acording to activity. More on Leg days, very low amounts on off days. One carb load day per week.

3) ECY stack.


CKD diets are supposed to work wonders for preserving lean muscle mass while dumping fat quick. I have been kicking arounfd trying one of these in the near future.

TAS

Mj23
06-06-2002, 05:28 PM
Can't go wrong withcardion as much as I don't like it. 30-40 minutes a day is ideal. Swimming will wear your ass out and give you a full body workout and increase lung capacity.

Spiropents, Liquidex (have lost some natural bloat with this stuff, really like it), Low carb diet (I love mt Dew...blast), NYC is supposed to be good. I have Yohimburn but hasn't really helped me....others rave about it. Yeah I am tempted to do a 3 week 250mg ed cycle of DNP and just stop fucken around. Get 15 lbs of blubber off before I do a cutting cycle as I have natural bulk. Xenadrine (eca) is supposed to be good but man, This stuff makes my heart want to leave my chest....very scary indeed for me anyhow. I have started some Hydroxycut (guess muscletech has 1 thing that works eah?)....this is not as overstimulating as the Xen.

Want to see if DNP will get the fat offa me:D

DecaDent*
06-06-2002, 06:25 PM
Available Drugs for weight loss....some pro's and con's for each:

Orlistat (Xenical )120 mg with each meal Peripheral: Blocks absorption of about 30% of consumed fat Gastrointestinal symptoms (oily spotting, flatus with discharge, fecal urgency, oily stools, incontinence)

Sibutramine (Meridia) 5-15 mg/d Central: Inhibits synaptic reuptake of norepinephrine and serotonin Dry mouth, constipation, headache, insomnia, increased blood pressure, tachycardia

Phentermine( Adipex, Fastin, Ionamin and others) 15-37.5 mg as a single or split dose Central: Stimulates release of norepinephrine CNS stimulation, tachycardia, dry mouth, insomnia, palpitations

Diethylpropion (Tenuate) 25 mg 3x/d or 75 mg/d Central: Stimulates release of norepinephrine CNS stimulation, tachycardia, dry mouth, insomnia, palpitations

Phenyl-propanolamine (PPA)* Various OTC preparations 75 mg/d Central: Stimulates release of norepinephrine CNS stimulation, tachycardia, dry mouth, insomnia, palpitations

Ephedrine+/-caffeine "Elsinore"pill Varies: usually 75-150 mg ephedrine and 100-150 mg caffeine Central: Stimulates adrenergic receptors CNS stimulation, tachycardia, dry mouth, insomnia, palpitations

Bupropion (Wellbutrin) 100-300 mg/d Central: Inhibits reuptake of dopamine norepinephrine and serotonin. CNS stimulation, dry mouth, headache, GI effects

*Because PPA is associated with a small risk of hemorrhagic stroke, in November, 2000, the FDA announced that it had asked manufacturers to discontinue marketing nasal decongestants and weight control products containing PPA. FDA also plans to remove PPA from all drug products.


Drugs used to treat obesity fall into 2 classes: (1) CNS-acting appetite suppressants and (2) lipase inhibitors that act on the stomach and the gastrointestinal system.
CNS-acting appetite suppressants. There are 2 types of CNS-acting appetite suppressants. Noradrenergic drugs act primarily to enhance the CNS concentrations of norepinephrine but also marginally increase the CNS levels of dopamine. Higher levels of norepinephrine lead to diminished appetite and hunger. Other CNS-acting drugs produce increased concentrations of serotonin along with norepinephrine and dopamine. Higher concentrations of serotonin result in an increased sense of satiety.


Phentermine. A noradrenergic anoretic, phentermine is the most commonly prescribed drug for the treatment of obesity. It has been on the market for more than 30 years. Its long-term availability, along with its lower price (generic forms are available) both contribute to its popularity. There are negligible differences between the resin (15 and 30 mg) and hydrochloride (18.75 and 37.5 mg) forms of this drug. Although it was used as part of the phen-fen combination, no studies have shown that phentermine, alone or in combination with fenfluramine, caused the valvulopathy now attributed to the fenfluramine preparations (the "fen" part of phen-fen).[19-21]

Phenylpropanolamine (PPA). Also a noradrenergic anorectic, PPA -- was historically a frequent addition to over-the-counter (OTC) preparations as a nasal decongestant and for weight loss. However, the FDA recently withdrew approval for these uses because of reports of a small increase in hemorrhagic strokes.[22] PPA will no longer be available for weight control, or for any other indication, either OTC or by prescription.

Sibutramine. Sibutramine selectively inhibits the reuptake of noradrenaline, serotonin, and, to a smaller degree, dopamine. Studies have shown that after 1 year of treatment, patients taking sibutramine lose an average of 7% of basal body weight.[23-26] Weight loss is dose-dependent, and studies have shown weight losses of up to 9% of body weight at higher doses. Although sibutramine increases blood pressure and heart rate in some patients,[27] this effect is relatively small in most patients and easily identified. Mild blood pressure changes should not cause patients to abandon this medication if it is otherwise effective because the benefits weight loss usually more than compensates for its cardiac effects. Its use, however, obligates careful medical monitoring. Early return visits for blood pressure checks are mandatory. Patients with otherwise well-controlled hypertension can usually use sibutramine successfully.

Intestinal lipase inhibitors.
Orlistat. Orlistat is the only commonly used drug to treat obesity that is does not act on the CNS. The drug works by blocking the action of pancreatic lipase -- the enzyme responsible for fat absorption -- thereby causing fat and calorie loss in stools.[28] Studies lasting 1 to 2 years show that patients taking orlistat experience a 4% to 5% greater weight loss than those taking a placebo.[29,30] Although weight loss with orlistat seems to peak at 6 months, it has been maintained for up to 2 years.

Because of the potential for associated uncomfortable gastrointestinal side effects, such as rectal incontinence and oily stools, orlistat also has the potential to result in beneficial aversive conditioning. Patients who use it must modify their food choices to avoid the side effects. Thus, the objectionable side effects associated with consuming excessive fat may reinforce more healthy eating habits. However, because orlistat can reduce the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins, multivitamin supplementation is recommended.
Patients will derive the most benefits from orlistat if they are instructed in how to use it effectively. With this drug, more than with any of the others, a knowledgeable patient will be more satisfied with both the side effects and results of taking orlistat. Passive patients will not do well; however, many patients using this drug value the opportunity to be an active participant in the management of their weight loss.

Other products. Bupropion, which is an FDA-approved antidepressant and agent for smoking cessation, has been shown in a number of small controlled studies to produce weight loss comparable to other obesity drugs.[31,32] It is believed to act centrally as a weak blocker of neuronal reuptake of norepinephrine, serotonin, and dopamine. It may be useful (albeit currently off-label) in the treatment of depressed patients who have gained weight with other psychotropic medications.

A number of other OTC products -- such as chitosan, hydroxycitrate; a variety of so-called fat blockers, gums and fibers; and chromium (usually as picolinate) -- are advertised as treatments for weight loss.
Be aware that they are packaged in uncertain dosages and are usually of uncertain potency and purity. More importantly, there are NO studies demonstrating any evidence of efficacy in the treatment of obesity.

Ephedrine is sold in various forms as an herbal product, most commonly as a variant of ephedra (or ma huang). Studies have demonstrated that patients using this thermogenic agent have experienced significantly more weight loss than those taking a placebo.[33-35] Uncontrolled botanical preparations vary substantially, however, in their potency, purity, and reliability. The most common side effects of the ephedrine/caffeine combination are increased heart rate and a sense of palpitations. Reports of associated complications (some of which have been catastrophic) may have been related to individual preparations with unusually high potency or to patient misuse partially attributable to the erroneous assumption that "natural" products must be safe.


For All Y'all that thought that muscle chick was "to hard" how'd you like some of this??? :D :D :D She'd turn you inta a crack addict.... Lots of cracks to pick from anyways.

Username
06-06-2002, 06:36 PM
I don't like to do cardio. I hate running/walking and the bike at the gym. So I bought me a jump rope. 10 minutes with that thing is killer.

DecaDent*
06-06-2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Presser
WOULD LIKE TO KICK THAT LADY SQUARE IN THE HEAD WITH A GOOD 4 STEP LEAD

Don't think that would even budge her Presser. I think your talking plastic explosives to move that fat ass.

guntruck
06-07-2002, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by DecaDent*


Don't think that would even budge her Presser. I think your talking plastic explosives to move that fat ass.

LOL :D

buddha_red
06-15-2002, 11:03 AM
Hey gang,


I do 35 mins a day at my target heart rate of 145 and hold that for the 35.

post weights i do 25 mins at my THR

reisitance train 3 days a week, eat clean and DRINK WATER!

get some cold pressed flaxseed oil and add that to your shakes twice a day.

ncsports
06-15-2002, 12:43 PM
i have gone from 190lbs to 178 or so as of last monday (3 weeks). i am skinny fat and trying to lose some bf% before bulking.

i am doing keto w/carb ups every 2 weeks.

wghts m-t-tr-f
12 - 15 reps slow with 45 secs rest
HIIT 3 days per week on bike
40 min 65% cardio 4 days per week.

i was using eca for 1st 3 weeks and switched to clen last monday for 2 weeks. then i will be going back to finish up

seems to be working.

NAPALM1
06-15-2002, 01:14 PM
I eat chicken 7 times a day, and take MCT oil with every meal. 1 to 1 1/2 hours of cardio ED, and I have dropped a considerable amont of weight. The only thing I have been taking to help is 50mcgs of T3 ED for the last 7 weeks. Worked like a charm, although I still am not exactly where I wanted to be with 1 weeks to go. But after i dehydrate, i should be ready!! Later

ncsports
06-15-2002, 03:34 PM
out of curiousity napalm1 - where did you start and where are you now? wght + relative bf%

any loss in lean muscle mass due to all the cardio?

sounds like you are getting pretty lean doing it. good work